How to we know RTP version of Slot game

[slapper]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?

As you may know, some specific slots have multiple RTP versions ranging from as high as 97% to as low as 88%.

One of the game was caught on my mind is "ryse of the mighty gods". I first play this game in Casinopunkz. At first, I did not think much because I believe this version is the only version (as I was new to slot game, I was like a dice before). Then, funny thing was I glance over the URL of my game and I see this:



Turn out this was just the 94% rtp version, not the 96% version. More about "ryse of the mighty gods"


This makes me wonder, what if, even in a reputable casino, RTP version can be tweak like this, so for example, a casino can claim they are using the 96% RTP slot version of a slot, but it could actually turn out to be the lower version. Can this be a posibility?

[Agbamoni]

I no longer believe that RTP in casinos do perform as they are meant to. What is writing in the game is most likely the opposite when you are playing.

It takes only a reputable casino to keep an RTP around 86% and it actually worked that way. In the end, we are looking for a win not RTP, which is why I do not care bout it.

[slapper]

I no longer believe that RTP in casinos do perform as they are meant to. What is writing in the game is most likely the opposite when you are playing.

It takes only a reputable casino to keep an RTP around 86% and it actually worked that way. In the end, we are looking for a win not RTP, which is why I do not care bout it.

How can we win in the long run if the RTP is always lower than 100%? To me, gambling is mainly for entertainment and fun and sometimes facing our own demons or having that inner dialogue between greedy side of ourselves. And other times, maybe winning something, or participating in contest. What I want to mention here is the itegrity of the casino nowadays

[stompix]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?

Play in a casino that is licensed by the UK Gambling Commission, by law, any casino that has a license with them must reveal their RTP, must agree to the game being tested by an independent body and must display the RTP rates to its players. Pretty simple!
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/gaming-machine-categories
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/standards/remote-gambling-and-software-technical-standards

Play with an unlicensed casino and you're going to have to trust their numbers!

How can we win in the long run if the RTP is always lower than 100%?

You can win even if the RTP is 0.1%, that number is for all the players not just yourself, if 99 guys lose 10 dollars and one guy wins $500 he has won with an RTP of ~95%.

[mcdouglasx]

This makes me wonder, what if, even in a reputable casino, RTP version can be tweak like this, so for example, a casino can claim they are using the 96% RTP slot version of a slot, but it could actually turn out to be the lower version. Can this be a posibility?

If it is a licensed casino, it is most likely that this data can be seen on the provider's site and not in the casino itself, and as for your question about whether a licensed casino lies about it, it is possible but unlikely since they are audited and regulated and will not want to damage their own reputation because in the same way the house always has the advantage, so cheating to win more money would be like shooting yourself in the foot out of greed.

[iv4n]

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This makes me wonder, what if, even in a reputable casino, RTP version can be tweak like this, so for example, a casino can claim they are using the 96% RTP slot version of a slot, but it could actually turn out to be the lower version. Can this be a posibility?

Many casinos don't show RTP at all, but some casinos (like MetaWin) show general RTP and RTP in the last 24 hours:





Just a reminder, it's stated on the site:

⚡ Reminder:  Slots Are Random!  Each spin is independent and random, with no connection to previous results. 24 Hour RTP is for fun purposes only and should not be used to predict future outcomes. Slots have no memory - past spins don’t influence future ones!

And now what is RTP for?

I have written it many times, and I will write it again... Slots can give a lot, but they can take a lot more. But will they give or take? We don't know, we need to try it, and we will find out.

And RTP? It's a joke, we can hit bonus buy & awesome payout in the first 10-50 spins, or we can see +500 spins without hitting a bonus round... on any RTP... with x2 or higher chances for bonus round.

Should we talk about bonus buys & super bonus buys?  

[348Judah]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?

As you may know, some specific slots have multiple RTP versions ranging from as high as 97% to as low as 88%.

On a normal standard, it is expected that the casinos provides the proof to serve as evidence to their approved RTP their license operate with, but most of us care less about having a check on this, because in most cases, we can discover that the values varies from what they presented to what we see in playing, all these talks a lot about why they should have more transparency in their RTP, i also advise us to avoid unnecessary stress on a look for this, because it can be disappointing sometimes.

[happybitcoinph]

This makes me wonder, what if, even in a reputable casino, RTP version can be tweak like this, so for example, a casino can claim they are using the 96% RTP slot version of a slot, but it could actually turn out to be the lower version. Can this be a posibility?

Direct answer, yes, that is possible. But let's think about it, should a 'reputable' company go beyond that action to maximize business profits? I suggest not to stress about it. RTP is something gamblers can't even feel. Just go with the flow on why you gamble.

Let's face it. Do most online gamblers, especially slot enthusiasts, really care about online RTP? Maybe yes at some point but not to the point that we will end up investigating if there's a flaw, especially if we talk about games on a reputable casino. That's why they are called "reputable" in the first place, we can expect that everything is fair. Of course, it doesn't mean that we should be blind about it, but the main criterion now is popularity. A certain slot game won't be popular in the first place if it's trash and full of flaws.

Game providers won't ruin their business by tweaking the original RTP. I can say the same thing about those games provided by the online casino itself. It's hard to build trust in the current vast industry of online gambling.

To simply make this short, stick with reputable casinos, as we can expect that their games, and games by their providers, always follow the original algorithm designed for them, and that includes the RTPs.

[Fortify]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?

As you may know, some specific slots have multiple RTP versions ranging from as high as 97% to as low as 88%.

One of the game was caught on my mind is "ryse of the mighty gods". I first play this game in Casinopunkz. At first, I did not think much because I believe this version is the only version (as I was new to slot game, I was like a dice before). Then, funny thing was I glance over the URL of my game and I see this:

Turn out this was just the 94% rtp version, not the 96% version. More about "ryse of the mighty gods"

This makes me wonder, what if, even in a reputable casino, RTP version can be tweak like this, so for example, a casino can claim they are using the 96% RTP slot version of a slot, but it could actually turn out to be the lower version. Can this be a posibility?

In my experience there are usually multiple versions of the same branded/themed game, so you just need to be aware of the exact RTP of the game you're playing. You'll have a "basic"" version of the game and there can be all variety of others, usually one called Mega or Ultra, which offers a different play style - maybe more reels or side games. If you cannot figure out specifically what you're playing I would actually choose to go to another casino because they're being a bit sneaky. If you have any doubt or think that they are pulling tricks on customers you probably want to switch anyway because that's never a good look for somebody that is essentially holding on to your money.

[slapper]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?

Play in a casino that is licensed by the UK Gambling Commission, by law, any casino that has a license with them must reveal their RTP, must agree to the game being tested by an independent body and must display the RTP rates to its players. Pretty simple!
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/gaming-machine-categories
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/standards/remote-gambling-and-software-technical-standards

Play with an unlicensed casino and you're going to have to trust their numbers!

How can we win in the long run if the RTP is always lower than 100%?

You can win even if the RTP is 0.1%, that number is for all the players not just yourself, if 99 guys lose 10 dollars and one guy wins $500 he has won with an RTP of ~95%.

Thank you so much. This type of knowledge is what I need. I do understand your point of view. I just want to make sure that the RTP we have are the real number. But there are some slots that are from other provider. How can users verify if they are using the correct RTP version?

[Maslate]

Some casinos are transparent with their RTP, some are not. I’ve played in casinos where the RTP isn’t even displayed, but I end up winning. Then on the other hand, in casinos that proudly show their RTP, I get unlucky. That’s why sometimes I don’t fully believe in RTP.

Sure, there’s supposed to be a standard RTP per game or per provider, but I always think casinos could request providers to adjust it higher or lower depending on what they want. At the end of the day, the house edge is always there anyway.

The only time I’ve seen something different was one casino running a promo with 100% RTP, but it was only temporary, just for a few hours. After that, back to normal.

[Dr.Osh]

In slot games, I don't care about RTP, and I doubt the winning percentage. I play slots without really hoping to win. I know that I will lose in the end. However, I still play with a small balance. For some reason, I like to see the images and hear the sounds of slot games. Most people don't believe in the RTP displayed.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Some casino use this RTP to lure their players and they even show different RTP for different time frames so it doesn't really make a big difference though about how much you are going to win which will still be based on your luck. Someone already mentioned that casinos regulated by UK has to show their RTP but other casinos are also showing it but my suggestion will be don't give much thought for those numbers. It can deceive you and nothing else.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Not all casinos shows the RTP of the game, perhaps you can only assume what is the RTP of the games that you played (unfortunately). But as what the majority says, RTP is not that big of a deal for them.

As long as you like the slot games, maybe it is your favorite you are going to play with it. Even if you are really losing money, that's how addictive slot games are, and if you don't have that self control, you are going to fall for the trick of it.

And even if you think that you can select a game that has a RTP that will allow you to win, you're still going to lose in the long run.

[Upgrade00]

Game providers can allow the casinos change the rtp on slots within a given range, but all regulated casinos are obligated to show the correct rtp percentage that they are using and they must display it to. If you do not see it when opening the game, check the info which contains more details.

How can we win in the long run if the RTP is always lower than 100%?

Cause you can lose your entire balance even with an rtp of 100%. You should not factor in the rtp too much before playing a game, it likely wouldn't come into play during the duration of your game time.

[Japinat]

Some casino use this RTP to lure their players and they even show different RTP for different time frames so it doesn't really make a big difference though about how much you are going to win which will still be based on your luck. Someone already mentioned that casinos regulated by UK has to show their RTP but other casinos are also showing it but my suggestion will be don't give much thought for those numbers. It can deceive you and nothing else.

How can it really deceive gamblers? Maybe if they’re showing a number that isn’t the real RTP, then yeah that’s deceiving. But if it’s displayed there, at least they’re showing it, since it’s required by the operators. Gamblers need to know the RTP so they understand their chances.

But since most casinos are regulated overseas, I think the implementation isn’t that strict. That’s why you’ll still see some casinos not showing the RTP at all. At the end of the day it depends on us if we still trust them or not. And to be honest, most gamblers rely more on their own experience than what’s written on the RTP anyway.

[programmer3666]

you have a good point because many slot providers usually make different RTP versions of the same game!! and it is up to the casino which one they choose to use. if the casino does not show it then there is no way to be 100% sure while you are playing.sometimes you wil see the RTP in the games info menu but that is often just the default one, not always what the casino is running. like you said!! it can also show up in the URL or game details... in places with strong rules, casinos must display the RTP but in other markets it is not always clear. that is why playing at licensed casinos is safer!! they should tell you the version if you ask since and you are right some shady sites could advertise the higher RTP but run the lower one. you won’t notice in a few spins!! but even a small difference makes a big impact in the long run.

[Dave1]

Most online platforms doesn't give us the real RTP of any slot games that we play, unless it's truly shown like MetaWin.

But if you are really that interested, you have to do it by yourself, you can obviously search it. For example, if you love Pragmatic Games, then you can go to their website to check the RTP of their games.

Like in this case, https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/games/gates-of-olympus/#

[Odusko]

In slot games, I don't care about RTP, and I doubt the winning percentage. I play slots without really hoping to win. I know that I will lose in the end. However, I still play with a small balance. For some reason, I like to see the images and hear the sounds of slot games. Most people don't believe in the RTP displayed.

Gambling should be based on fun and non expectancy of winning put you at a consistent stable condition that most likely will not harm you state of mind even if you lose consistently while having your desired fun, gambling results on games like slot and dice have limited tendency to win and only by luck a gambler will win over the house which make the whole thing not easy to win and for that we need to limit how much we gamble with and the time we spend on that.

[Mia Chloe]

If the casino does not directly show the rtp of the slot game, how can we know the RTP version of it?
As you may know, some specific slots have multiple RTP versions ranging from as high as 97% to as low as 88%.

That's kinda like the worst part of the game. I understand that feeling when you realize you're playing a lower RTP version, it's like the casino just showed you they're not playing fair. Most of us just click and assume the best. It’s basically why gamblers find it hard to trust a casino’s word alone.

Sometimes the gambling community is surprisingly kinda tight-knit and fast to call out a casino that’s running a low RTP game. You just can’t be too careful because when the house isn't transparent I actually on you to find the truth.