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August 31, 2025, 01:17:51 PM
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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
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August 31, 2025, 01:42:02 PM
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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up.
If it is as simply as that, many shitcoins can shoot up in price and you know shitcoins don't have price soar like this but their projects died, price plummeted to zero, trading volume is non existent.

Demand and supply principle works but it is not affected only by scracity.

The YEARN finance token YFI has only 36.64k tokens in total supply and about scarcity, it is actually is scarcer than bitcoins.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/yearn-finance/

You see that its token price can not soar to the moon and this token is an example that only scarcity can not help to build up value or price.
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August 31, 2025, 03:07:23 PM
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So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
What you generally explained about supply and demand is obvious but what you followed it up with makes little sense because when you say "sellers", you aren't talking about a single entity that works as a single body. You are talking about many individuals that are naturally making decisions based on market dynamics, their financial situation, their speculation, news, emotions, etc.

Your statement only makes sense if you want to suggest that through "market manipulation" we should do something to influence the market participants to sell less and create artificial "scarcity".
Well, that is not an easy thing to do in Bitcoin Market any more...

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August 31, 2025, 03:33:36 PM
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So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
How do they intend to do that? And is creating artificial scarcity a good action in a system that advocates sanity and transparency?

As I wait for your probable answers to that, I strongly object to your request, because Bitcoin should be allowed to thrive as naturally as it could. No one created the artificial scarcity when Bitcoin moved from below $1 to over $122,000, it found its demand naturally, which makes it unique from those manipulated markets.

Bitcoin is progressive itself and has proven this times again, so let the right economics rule in the Bitcoin market.

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August 31, 2025, 03:39:41 PM
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So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.

Market makers are the ones who control the price. Scarcity on the Bitcoin market always happens after block halving. The current price action these days is now influenced by news, not by the scarcity of the Bitcoin market. Market makers can hold and sell it at a much higher price or buy it at a much cheaper price.
They are the ones who decide how much BTC will be worth, so if you see a price drop, it isn't because of the scarcity of the market; there are many things that influence the BTC price.

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August 31, 2025, 03:40:47 PM
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Isn't it already scarce? I don't get it. You can't really put much into it because you can no longer lessen it. The halving is what makes it even more scarce. It would depend on the buying and selling pressure from both sides.

You can compare it to assets like gold or something.

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August 31, 2025, 03:59:01 PM
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So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
who are the sellers to even start with? with regards the way the demand and supply of bitcoin is structured, there is no one that is known as the seller or the buyer like what is the case with the normal economic system of buys and sells affecting demand and supply. the ideal thing is that anyone can be the seller of bitcoin and anyone can also be the buyer depending on what the individual wants at that instance.

The value of bitcoin though dependent on demand and supply to an extent does not depend on demand and supply from the angle that such factor can be influenced. bitcoin value responds naturally to demand and supply and also response to it speculative value and how much of it adoption happens per time which has been the key factor that has stood at the Centre of bitcoin price movement.

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August 31, 2025, 04:13:29 PM
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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.

Yes, that is how it works but creating artificial scarcity is not as easy as it sounds.
With millions/billions of people involved, how would you convince a group of people to buy/sell based on the price.
On paper it sounds good but doesn't work practically because if it would, then we would be seeing a lot of coins already creating the artificial scarcity.

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August 31, 2025, 04:21:02 PM
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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up.
Unfortunately when it comes to laws of supply and demand, you need one  variable to be constant so that say when supply is constant or is being taken out of the market circulation  but demand continues going up..then technically this pushes price up as finding bitcoin will not be easy..so for now to push price up its about how hodlers make coins available on the market and if they dont have weak hands.

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August 31, 2025, 05:05:45 PM
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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.

You mean that increasing in demands of bitcoin when the supply is reduced will cause the market to rise, which is not bad at all, when this happens, we are ethe ones to determine for the market performance base on the level of adoption and how we often more demands for it, as people are buying and selling each day, the market shifts and then we see how it went towards the direction of each seasonal performance.
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Scarcity is really important, price rallies have historically been supported by Bitcoins 21M cap & four year halvings, which limit new supply.   However scarcity on its own wont generate profits because large ETF & institutional inflows can overwhelm hoarding effects & move enormous amounts of capital.   Concentration actually shapes the available supply because whales & centralized hodlers have the ability to lock up tradable float.  The magnitude of a large buy/sell price swing is determined by market liquidity & orderbook depth.   so scarcity can still be completely overblown by shortterm macro or regulatory news.

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What makes Bitcoin unique and different from other crypto currency is the limited supply of Bitcoin in the Bitcoin block chain one day the last Bitcoin will be eventually mined and that is when people will actually see the need or importance of Bitcoin because Bitcoin will become more scarce which will directly impact on the price of Bitcoin so the value of Bitcoin will be greatly affected by the availability of Bitcoin

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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
Who wouldn't let Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market? Although I personally can't imagine that because Bitcoin is far more unique than ordinary goods that can imagine artificial surpluses and scarcity in the market. And one more thing, when you mention the theory of supply and demand like that, some people might find it confusing to understand, even though the theory of supply and demand is very simple and understandable for any market user. So try not to imagine Bitcoin as any other commodity whose scarcity can be artificially created even though it is essentially scarce. Meanwhile, Bitcoin does have a supply limit that can generally become scarce over time without anyone having to create it.

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You are subjecting this to price manipulation and not allowing price to grow naturally according to speculation, economic news, decisions of traders with huge funds and this can not really work because all the Bitcoin holders in different parts of the world can not have such cooperation of agreeing to create artificial scarcity which will cause the price to spike, but you have to also know that creating such scarcity will not be consistent, after a few days the price will still go back to normal. This can not happen since there's no such cooperation with holders, it's just the economic news, financial crises, or some big institutions that can cause it to happen but it won't still be consistent for a long time.
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Scaricy isn't enough for the value of an item. For bitcoin I think it's much more valuable the limited or predetermined supply.
there are many factors involved togheter in the same time for "pricing" bitcoin.
it's like the best experiment of game theory since this is the first time we have something similar in history of mankind.

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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
Yes, the limited supply in Bitcoin is the main reason why the price will keep going up because according to the low of demand and supply, the lower the supply, the higher the price. This is a good reason why we should focus on buying Bitcoin, the DCA method is here to help some of us that don’t have money to buy at once, we can all hold as much Bitcoin as we want if we keep using the DCA method to buy more Bitcoin.
It’s not too late, it can even be early to buy some fraction of Bitcoin before the price skyrocket any moment soon.

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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.
Use of Bitcoin is growing wide, there are not only investors in the market. What about those that trades daily with Bitcoin, creating artificial scarcity isn't going to be easy as you think. You can't control selling pressure, how will you address every Bitcoin user to refrain from selling, even companies now accept payments in Bitcoin.

With Bitcoin limited supply, i think everything is how it is supposed to be, there is always a bear and bull season, each phases is favorable depending on your approach, investors are ready to buy Bitcoin at a low price we don't intend to see the price shoot up always.

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The theory of demand and supply if applied will make Bitcoin price shoot up. If the coin is surplus in the market and few buyers are willing and ready to buy then the price will drop and if the coin is scarce in the market and few people want to buy the price will still shoot up. But if the supply is surplus and we have few buyers then the price will drop. So if the Sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market by holding the coin and the buyers are surplus then the price will shoot up. So let the Bitcoin sellers create artificial scarcity in the Bitcoin market.

Lets say all sellers can somehow coordinate and create "artificial scarcity" by holding their coins.  How will new buyers enter the market?  They will have nowhere to buy coins.  Your theory misses the core idea of how Bitcoin supply and demand work at a fundamental level.  Prices dont go up because sellers hold; they go up because new buyers are looking to buy at higher prices and demand on exchanges outstrips the supply available from sellers.  If all sellers held their coins, then there would be no liquidity in the markets and no buyers either.

Bitcoins scarcity is already baked into the system.  It doesnt need people to manufacture it.

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Your statement only makes sense if you want to suggest that through "market manipulation" we should do something to influence the market participants to sell less and create artificial "scarcity".
Well, that is not an easy thing to do in Bitcoin Market any more...
Currently, many parties are constantly doing this, including several countries and their rulers with their regulations, influencers with the hype they always build, and of course, fake news from several media outlets that encourage this because indirectly, this also creates the illusion of manipulation used to drain emotions, steps that must be taken, and strategies, including for some traders and those who always experience FOMO.

This has become an inseparable driving force because, although not everyone likes the decline in Bitcoin or when Bitcoin crashes, ultimately this is also a process that cannot be separated from Bitcoin itself. This is because when value wants to grow, fluctuations must always move to support a bright future, considering that with the existing system, we are aware that when there is a decline, an increase is definitely on the horizon, and we are just waiting for it.

 
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August 31, 2025, 10:23:04 PM
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BTC already has a capped supply, and there is always demand for it. It is obvious that demand and supply plays the most important role in determining what BTC price would be at a particular time. However, BTC is used all around the world, so your idea of every bitcoiner coming together to create artificial scarcity does not make much sense.

We are not talking about a close-knit community here, were everyone has common interests, lol. People sell for different reasons, same aa the way they buy. Just hold your coins and wait for BTC to rise in the normal way it does.

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