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September 02, 2025, 11:34:56 PM
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I got this inspiration from this thread Are slots rigged or Just math at work? . We have come acrose many thread that talks about the casino being designed for gamblers to lose more than win and I have been wondering the best way to explain how these casino are built and this made me to create this image to explain why gamblers lose often than win. Pardon my photo edit if it's not done properly but I just want to pass a message.
I think that slots are designed to work as slot work. There is absolutely no rigging done in its system. It is working as it is designed by the programmer to work. The problem will often have a gamblers who think that they can outsmart the slot system by trying a lot of things that are ridiculous.

Slots is not how it is depicted in the image in the OP. What is depicted to me is someone without any control of themselves while playing slots as well as other games.

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September 03, 2025, 02:52:42 AM
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Casinos would be a pretty bad business to get into if they weren’t… There’s nothing wrong with slots being designed to take your money. That’s why they exist. As a side effect, you as a gambler gets to have some entertainment. This is a good point for everyone to acknowledge. It’s a pay for entertainment business.

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September 03, 2025, 03:21:49 AM
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A general reply to this question is that casinos are made to make a gambler think they are going to win big when in reality they are gooling only themselves because the math is against them.

Logically one will lose more than win at any proper casino be it rigged or not rigged.

However people will still play because they want to make easy money and fall for anything that says quick money insteading of knowing the math behind it.

 
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September 03, 2025, 05:17:32 AM
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After a carefully thinking about the topic and the reality of gambling, I want to agree with you partly because that statement is true but with some exception. A lot of people do lose in gambling but not everyone is losing so we can say that gambling is designed to give the house edge so they remain in profits. Part of the money lost by majority of the people will be used to pay those that would win and the difference being the profit the casinos will make. This is how I think gambling is designed.
Well, casinos do give you the chance to win sometimes. Yes, it doesn't happen that often, but the fact remains. I have not only seen it myself, but I can also confirm this from personal experience. There were several cases when I was incredibly lucky. There were such wins that my hair stood on end.

Ultimately, the casino has a much better chance of making a profit than the players.

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September 03, 2025, 05:56:44 AM
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I think that slots are designed to work as slot work. There is absolutely no rigging done in its system. It is working as it is designed by the programmer to work. The problem will often have a gamblers who think that they can outsmart the slot system by trying a lot of things that are ridiculous.

Slots is not how it is depicted in the image in the OP. What is depicted to me is someone without any control of themselves while playing slots as well as other games.
There is no manipulation involved, but we need to realize that when it comes to gambling, it is very clear that the business concept for bookies is very different from the concept of luck that gamblers have.

Therefore, even though slot games are not necessarily designed to make us lose, conceptually, sooner or later, this will inevitably happen, where we will definitely experience losses and spend what we have deposited.
However, this also creates a flexible situation that depends on our ability to manage money well, act maturely in the games we play, and take responsibility. This can help us manage things a little better because, even though we will inevitably experience losses, it doesn't mean we never win in the games, even if they are slot games.


 
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September 03, 2025, 06:06:41 AM
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I think that slots are designed to work as slot work. There is absolutely no rigging done in its system. It is working as it is designed by the programmer to work. The problem will often have a gamblers who think that they can outsmart the slot system by trying a lot of things that are ridiculous.

Slots is not how it is depicted in the image in the OP. What is depicted to me is someone without any control of themselves while playing slots as well as other games.

You are right, the mistake lies with the gamblers who often think they can outsmart the slot game system. They might believe there is a certain pattern in the game to get a big multiplier. This makes the gamblers very enthusiastic, as if they want to crack the accurate betting pattern to beat the slot game system.
Furthermore, we also will not know if the slot games are indeed manipulated or not. If gamblers feel that the slots are manipulated and designed to drain them, they will never have proof of that, especially if they also get some small wins.

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September 03, 2025, 06:08:55 AM
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It shouldn't be a long discussion, we know what's the purpose of the casinos and they're not made as a charity. Everyone is aware that if they gamble.

In period of time, they'll lose. We all knew about this thing and it's a fact that everyone has accepted.

They're a business and most of them are in profit mostly, the established ones. But the new ones, they'll have hard time in establishing and making their names and brands known.

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September 03, 2025, 06:39:21 AM
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It shouldn't be a long discussion, we know what's the purpose of the casinos and they're not made as a charity. Everyone is aware that if they gamble.

In period of time, they'll lose. We all knew about this thing and it's a fact that everyone has accepted.

They're a business and most of them are in profit mostly, the established ones. But the new ones, they'll have hard time in establishing and making their names and brands known.

It's always better to prepare for the worst before gambling, because anything can happen once you start. Winning or losing isn't the only risk there's also the chance of unfair practices, game manipulation, or being misled. Just like most gamblers enter the game hoping to make a profit, the casino has the same goal.

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September 03, 2025, 07:53:39 AM
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It shouldn't be a long discussion, we know what's the purpose of the casinos and they're not made as a charity. Everyone is aware that if they gamble.

In period of time, they'll lose. We all knew about this thing and it's a fact that everyone has accepted.

They're a business and most of them are in profit mostly, the established ones. But the new ones, they'll have hard time in establishing and making their names and brands known.

It's always better to prepare for the worst before gambling, because anything can happen once you start. Winning or losing isn't the only risk there's also the chance of unfair practices, game manipulation, or being misled. Just like most gamblers enter the game hoping to make a profit, the casino has the same goal.
They have the same goal as us but they have the bigger edge because we're gambling on them. And so, they always win and we are also aware of that.

Somehow there will be winners that are totally lucky. But if we'll reiterate that, we will get the same results that we'll have more losses than wins.

While them, the opposite result of having more wins and lesser losses.

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September 03, 2025, 09:21:10 AM
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Gambling is for adults, and it is expected that you should know what you're getting yourself involved in before you even start gambling. Games in the casinos been designed for you to lose and for the casino to win, but it still does not mean there are no huge winners every now and then from the same casino.

Sometimes from some of these games, if you believe that you're never going to win, then you will never ever win. But if you believe that yes, it is possible for you to win, then the chances of you winning become higher automatically based on your belief and mindset.

And it seems to me that our belief in victory has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the game. Except that if I play poker - I believe in myself, so I bluff very confidently and play my strategy, of course, then this can bring me closer to victory, especially if I have a lot of chips, and my opponent is an insecure inexperienced poker player.
Well, I don’t understand how this can affect the outcome in slots or in all games where the outcome is decided by mathematics, and not by my positivity.

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Wrong interpretation. Slots, Casinos, or gambling in general aren't designed for people to lose.

It's not gambling anymore if everyone is winning. You take the risks, then accept whatever the result.

I mean, the casino owners win, that's how it's all created.

The odds of the games are against the gamblers, so that the casino wins.

The games are designed for gamblers to lose.

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After a carefully thinking about the topic and the reality of gambling, I want to agree with you partly because that statement is true but with some exception. A lot of people do lose in gambling but not everyone is losing so we can say that gambling is designed to give the house edge so they remain in profits. Part of the money lost by majority of the people will be used to pay those that would win and the difference being the profit the casinos will make. This is how I think gambling is designed.
Well, casinos do give you the chance to win sometimes. Yes, it doesn't happen that often, but the fact remains. I have not only seen it myself, but I can also confirm this from personal experience. There were several cases when I was incredibly lucky. There were such wins that my hair stood on end.

Ultimately, the casino has a much better chance of making a profit than the players.

Yeah, and we should take advantage of that "sometimes", maybe we can experience winning streak in some games or win big in slot machines. Then we should quit while we are in the top. But the problem is that when greed sets in, then that will be the time that we are going to lose.

We thought that we're invincible and win every games in black jack and or roulette, but when the luck change then that is going to be the worst feeling as we might regret and think that we should have exited already when we have the winnings. Now we are fighting for just our capital to come back and worst it will really be that we can't get and win it as well.

 
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i dont think that will be possible neither. although if the drum was closer to the gambler or the gambler closer to the drum, it then means that there will be an odd adjustment to increase the chance of wining, maybe the odd could have been set base on the distance. each distance in meter will be like
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Wrong interpretation. Slots, Casinos, or gambling in general aren't designed for people to lose.

It's not gambling anymore if everyone is winning. You take the risks, then accept whatever the result.

I mean, the casino owners win, that's how it's all created.

The odds of the games are against the gamblers, so that the casino wins.

The games are designed for gamblers to lose.
Of course, that's how the game is designed for gamblers to lose. What are the gamblers giving back to the casino nothing but money and you feel that the casino will allow you to walk away with their money after they have provided you with their games for entertainment and fun. You still want to make profit from them. It will be a bad business for casinos if it ends up like that.

This is why you should not think that it's possible for you to win the casino with your skills or your experience in gambling. Only luck can make your dreams of winning big come true because the casino cannot control your luck.

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September 03, 2025, 10:57:22 AM
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I mean, the casino owners win, that's how it's all created.

The odds of the games are against the gamblers, so that the casino wins.

The games are designed for gamblers to lose.

Well done, though, i don't think casino owners do this to donate money, and judging by how many casinos are created, i see that it's a very profitable activity, not by chance, i dare say.
Obviously, as i always remind you, only play with money you can afford to lose, play above all for fun and that's it.

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Gambling is designed for those seeking pleasure. If someone expects to earn a steady income from it, they will inevitably be disappointed, because the odds are always tilted in favor of the casino, not the player. That’s why gambling should never be seen as a reliable source of income - it’s simply a form of leisure that carries the constant risk of losing money. The best approach is to only gamble with money you can afford to lose, so that even if you do lose, it won’t damage your financial stability.

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Sometimes from some of these games, if you believe that you're never going to win, then you will never ever win. But if you believe that yes, it is possible for you to win, then the chances of you winning become higher automatically based on your belief and mindset.
This is not a matter of wanting or not wanting to win. Even though you want to win, it doesn't mean you will win since winning 'is all about luck. Looking at the image above it doesn't looks like you are going to win if you wish but you will win base on luck. And this luck happens when you hit the target.

You're right I think @ Rruchi man is getting it wrong, for him to say that it depends on ones believe looks like there is a guarantee about the outcome, but looking at it the other way round I think he's right. surely if you believe that you will win while gambling your chance of winning will always increase that is because you will be extremely careful while making selections/ predictions, you won't bet on random games as you used to. And sure going about it this way would increase your chance of winning, but that doesn't mean that the wining will come that very moment it might come the next day or maybe when you don't even expect.

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The fact that we always complain why we are consistently at loss, that only proves that casinos are designed to make us lose while leaving them gaining the best advantage. And casino is a business, so they will always make sure to keep those profits and grow their business, even if it means a big loss for us.

This is why we should be gambling responsibly. And gamble only on our spare money, because we are designed to lose and make the house constantly in profits.,

Yes, basically it's a good idea to treat gambling as simply a recreation, and budget for it if you want to.

There's no real money to be made by gambling, and the only people making money is the casino owners.

It's true that it can be fun though, but that's why you need a budget.

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There's no real money to be made by gambling, and the only people making money is the casino owners.

It's true that it can be fun though, but that's why you need a budget.

There’s money to make in the casino the only problem is just casino always win due to house edge but that doesn’t mean there’s zero chance player will have profit.

It’s just house edge that will take effect in the long run so losses will always overlap profit on every gambler.

That’s why gambler should really use it for recreational purposes only. Enjoy when win and move on when lose.

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September 03, 2025, 01:08:12 PM
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There’s money to make in the casino the only problem is just casino always win due to house edge but that doesn’t mean there’s zero chance player will have profit.

If there were zero wins, there would be no such thing as a gambler. However, the winnings earned by users are smaller than casino owners, and this is beyond dispute. I'm not sure, but let me know something, if it's possible for a casino to profit $100,000 in a single day, while winnings reach $200,000? Of course, this doesn't happen every day. Logically, if there's a consistent profit, it implies there's a system in place where the casino can determine the random winner and may have max winner can be set. However, if there's a single negative period, this might be more organic, right? CMIIW

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