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September 03, 2025, 01:20:55 PM
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There’s money to make in the casino the only problem is just casino always win due to house edge but that doesn’t mean there’s zero chance player will have profit.

If there were zero wins, there would be no such thing as a gambler. However, the winnings earned by users are smaller than casino owners, and this is beyond dispute. I'm not sure, but let me know something, if it's possible for a casino to profit $100,000 in a single day, while winnings reach $200,000? Of course, this doesn't happen every day. Logically, if there's a consistent profit, it implies there's a system in place where the casino can determine the random winner and may have max winner can be set. However, if there's a single negative period, this might be more organic, right? CMIIW

You’re correct.

Casino RTP works in total wager and profit done by all players in the casino, it’s a guaranteed profit for them in long term but that doesn’t mean they will not have negative days because players sometime win and that’s fine as long as they keep playing because they will surely lose later on.

VIP system and bonuses was introduced to guarantee that players will not stop even with profit because they will pursue to get more through the bonuses and benefits that often leads to greediness and losses for players.

The only time casino will print consistent negative is when they don’t have enough players to contribute on profit while their expenses is higher.

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September 03, 2025, 02:56:17 PM
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Casinos would be a pretty bad business to get into if they weren’t… There’s nothing wrong with slots being designed to take your money. That’s why they exist. As a side effect, you as a gambler gets to have some entertainment. This is a good point for everyone to acknowledge. It’s a pay for entertainment business.
You can also gaiin while beiing entertaned. ot all the time when you play the slots you will lose.
tehre will always a tiime that luck wiill hit you not once but more. just make sure you know when to stop. in that way you wiill beat the casino and take some money home.
Just make sure that wehn you hit the big win you will have enough money and go home. dont chase more iif you ahve enough.

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September 03, 2025, 05:34:03 PM
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Generally, all casino games are designed to make gamblers lose, and we must realize this from the start because sooner or later our bankroll will be depleted. This is where most gamblers miss a crucial point that should be recognized from the start.

Remember, this is just a game of chance, not everything. We can get lucky, but losing is inevitable. Any winnings we achieve, if we aren't careful in our approach, will only fade over time.
I quite agree with many people in forums who say a more mature attitude is needed, and this is certainly true. We know that if we don't approach this maturely, we will inevitably become trapped in a cycle of gambling that creates false shadows without realizing that they are in business for profit, and we are destined to lose from the start.

I am not sure that casino owners goal is to make gambler lose. If gambler lose everything, they will never return. Its the same as saying that every business goal is to take money and dont provide any good or service, or saying that medicine is created not to cure, but to keep people half sick/half cure. You said it yourself, gambling is game of chance, casinos also risk their money when they let gamblers play. People lose a lot of money not because casinos a made so, but because they are greedy.
As I emphasized earlier, this is just luck. It doesn't mean we can't be lucky, but losing in gambling is a certainty because sooner or later this situation will occur, and those of us who gamble certainly understand this. However, in this case, it depends on the management we implement.

The mindset of the bookie who is in business and the gambler who hopes for luck is clearly very different. Those who manage casinos clearly want to make a profit by allowing us gamblers to explore all forms of gambling that they offer, and we are just visitors who pay for the facilities we visit. Indeed, we don't always lose because at certain moments we will experience victory, but ultimately, those victories will be depleted if we keep playing, and it's only a matter of time.

This doesn't mean that casinos are cheating, but that's how they operate, and we must be aware of the situation so that we don't become too focused on gambling and winning alone, ignoring the risks just because of ambition and ego.

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September 03, 2025, 06:17:27 PM
 #124

Generally, all casino games are designed to make gamblers lose, and we must realize this from the start because sooner or later our bankroll will be depleted. This is where most gamblers miss a crucial point that should be recognized from the start.

Remember, this is just a game of chance, not everything. We can get lucky, but losing is inevitable. Any winnings we achieve, if we aren't careful in our approach, will only fade over time.
I quite agree with many people in forums who say a more mature attitude is needed, and this is certainly true. We know that if we don't approach this maturely, we will inevitably become trapped in a cycle of gambling that creates false shadows without realizing that they are in business for profit, and we are destined to lose from the start.

I am not sure that casino owners goal is to make gambler lose. If gambler lose everything, they will never return. Its the same as saying that every business goal is to take money and dont provide any good or service, or saying that medicine is created not to cure, but to keep people half sick/half cure. You said it yourself, gambling is game of chance, casinos also risk their money when they let gamblers play. People lose a lot of money not because casinos a made so, but because they are greedy.
As I emphasized earlier, this is just luck. It doesn't mean we can't be lucky, but losing in gambling is a certainty because sooner or later this situation will occur, and those of us who gamble certainly understand this. However, in this case, it depends on the management we implement.

The mindset of the bookie who is in business and the gambler who hopes for luck is clearly very different. Those who manage casinos clearly want to make a profit by allowing us gamblers to explore all forms of gambling that they offer, and we are just visitors who pay for the facilities we visit. Indeed, we don't always lose because at certain moments we will experience victory, but ultimately, those victories will be depleted if we keep playing, and it's only a matter of time.

This doesn't mean that casinos are cheating, but that's how they operate, and we must be aware of the situation so that we don't become too focused on gambling and winning alone, ignoring the risks just because of ambition and ego.
Well, put gambling always comes down to luck in the short term but the structure of the system makes losing inevitable in the long run casinos are built with profit in mind and every game is designed so the house always has the advantage gamblers might enjoy temporary wins but over time those wins are usually recycled back into losses the longer someone plays the higher the chance that everything is given back to the house. Management plays a huge role not only in how money is used but also in how mindset is shaped a person who sets clear boundaries and treats gambling as occasional entertainment will have a very different experience compared to someone chasing wins without limits knowing when to step away and when to protect your bankroll is what separates a controlled experience from a harmful one.

Many gamblers fail because they ignore the reality of the system they focus only on the excitement of winning and convince themselves that one more bet will change everything this cycle is exactly what casinos rely on ambition and ego often push people into losses that could have been avoided awareness is the strongest defense against that trap.It’s also worth remembering that casinos are not cheating they are simply running a business built on mathematical advantage once you understand this it becomes easier to see gambling as entertainment with a cost instead of a path to income treating it like a night out rather than an investment helps keep expectations realistic.

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From this explanation and the image below, do you believe that casino was designed for gamblers to win or lose?



Basically, casinos are created to attract people so that people pay attention to gambling. The current situation in our society is similar to your picture, people bring money from their homes and gamble with it and lose. Generally, very few people win gambling, those who are lucky, moreover, in most cases, gamblers lose money. Although casinos are basically created for gamblers to win and lose, most of the losses are higher, those who have experience in gambling win.

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If gambling sites make everyone win all the time, how will they pay users? This is their business, you have to always remember that, so they will design games in such a way that they will fool gamblers and make them lose. This is a simple calculation. So if someone understands this and gambles a lot and loses, it is their failure. Because no platform ever guarantees that a user will win if they gamble there. Many can win big, it depends on luck. Some percentage of the losses of thousands of people are won by one lucky person and that person gets a lot of money. So if everyone individually expects something good from gambling, then it is just their greed, it cannot be a sign of their intelligence.

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A casino is a type of business just like others, its owners make profits from it. You know, if a business person makes or launches any kind of business, their main focus is to squeeze everything to get more profits. The same goes for casinos, the owners themselves need profits. That’s why they will not make all the people profitable from their casinos. If everyone gets profits, then what is left for them? Yes, they give some lottery winnings to a lucky person and some profits in the games, and this is also part of their strategy to attract other people and engage those who are involved. And that’s what they are doing, distributing fewer profits to users while keeping a large part for themselves, allowing the business to run smoothly.

You are absolutely correct, the reason for the lottery winning is to make more customers because they will display the huge win that a customer must have gotten and also the customer will play a role in marketing the casino too when he starts telling people and his friends that [that casino] has given his such a huge win, those people he told will want to go and start trying luck too. People should just understand that casino is not a place to make money consistently but a place to have fun and expect money.

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September 04, 2025, 10:40:48 AM
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Yeah, and we should take advantage of that "sometimes", maybe we can experience winning streak in some games or win big in slot machines. Then we should quit while we are in the top. But the problem is that when greed sets in, then that will be the time that we are going to lose.

We thought that we're invincible and win every games in black jack and or roulette, but when the luck change then that is going to be the worst feeling as we might regret and think that we should have exited already when we have the winnings. Now we are fighting for just our capital to come back and worst it will really be that we can't get and win it as well.
I can't even remember how many similar situations and moments I've had. There's a big win, I should leave with it. But no... Greed gets the better of me and I'm sitting in front of the slots again, increasing the bet. The result, as I suppose, is known to you - empty pockets and a sea of ​​disappointments. Well, why did I continue to play? It was never enough.

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September 05, 2025, 10:38:15 AM
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The fact that we always complain why we are consistently at loss, that only proves that casinos are designed to make us lose while leaving them gaining the best advantage. And casino is a business, so they will always make sure to keep those profits and grow their business, even if it means a big loss for us.

This is why we should be gambling responsibly. And gamble only on our spare money, because we are designed to lose and make the house constantly in profits.,

Yes, basically it's a good idea to treat gambling as simply a recreation, and budget for it if you want to.

There's no real money to be made by gambling, and the only people making money is the casino owners.

It's true that it can be fun though, but that's why you need a budget.
We make a budget and lose it all. lol
However, this never says that gambling is bad. It only ruins our lives because of our irrational gambling habit. If we are gambling not just for the sake of money, surely we experience goodness. But since most of us come to take the prize and believe this will make us rich instantly, no wonder that many suffer terrible losses.

The truth is: Casinos never lose any.

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Smoking? That's your responsibility. The fine print on the pack even warns you that it could kill you.

Alcohol? Also your responsibility. It might not be one of the top direct causes of death, but it can be a factor.

Gambling? That's on you too. They even tell you about the house edge. The stories of luck and bad luck are just part of the innocent fun that comes with that responsibility.

It's all about personal responsibility
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September 07, 2025, 03:08:29 AM
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Yeah, and we should take advantage of that "sometimes", maybe we can experience winning streak in some games or win big in slot machines. Then we should quit while we are in the top. But the problem is that when greed sets in, then that will be the time that we are going to lose.

We thought that we're invincible and win every games in black jack and or roulette, but when the luck change then that is going to be the worst feeling as we might regret and think that we should have exited already when we have the winnings. Now we are fighting for just our capital to come back and worst it will really be that we can't get and win it as well.
I can't even remember how many similar situations and moments I've had. There's a big win, I should leave with it. But no... Greed gets the better of me and I'm sitting in front of the slots again, increasing the bet. The result, as I suppose, is known to you - empty pockets and a sea of ​​disappointments. Well, why did I continue to play? It was never enough.
I have won big several times while gambling but I could not keep them. Most of the time when gambling we have to lose because of wrong decisions, it is good for us if we do not get too greedy. Whenever there is extra people during gambling, that is the time when there will be more chances of losing because there is never any extra profit during gambling.

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Yeah, and we should take advantage of that "sometimes", maybe we can experience winning streak in some games or win big in slot machines. Then we should quit while we are in the top. But the problem is that when greed sets in, then that will be the time that we are going to lose.

We thought that we're invincible and win every games in black jack and or roulette, but when the luck change then that is going to be the worst feeling as we might regret and think that we should have exited already when we have the winnings. Now we are fighting for just our capital to come back and worst it will really be that we can't get and win it as well.
I can't even remember how many similar situations and moments I've had. There's a big win, I should leave with it. But no... Greed gets the better of me and I'm sitting in front of the slots again, increasing the bet. The result, as I suppose, is known to you - empty pockets and a sea of ​​disappointments. Well, why did I continue to play? It was never enough.
I have won big several times while gambling but I could not keep them. Most of the time when gambling we have to lose because of wrong decisions, it is good for us if we do not get too greedy. Whenever there is extra people during gambling, that is the time when there will be more chances of losing because there is never any extra profit during gambling.
Greed is something every gambler must get absolutely rid of and not just try not to get too greedy as you put it, greediness, which as I understand it as never being contented have destroyed several life and destinies, greed is some thing we must turn away completely from as doing this can help us significantly.
Many gambler out there mistake greed for patience, and this is another area we must look at critically and ensure we are well educated on the difference.

And speaking of slot and casino game, just like you, alot of people has won good money from playing either of this game, some made good use of the money while some ended up losing it back to the casino..
So, those who are lucky actually do make money from playing slot and casino game, but those who are unlucky believe that the games are designed for people to lose money.

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Smoking? That's your responsibility. The fine print on the pack even warns you that it could kill you.

Alcohol? Also your responsibility. It might not be one of the top direct causes of death, but it can be a factor.

Gambling? That's on you too. They even tell you about the house edge. The stories of luck and bad luck are just part of the innocent fun that comes with that responsibility.

It's all about personal responsibility
. You can use any analogy you want, as long as you use common sense and understand each situation clearly. Any kind of excess is bad.

Yes, I absolutely agree with these points.

In the end, it's the person's responsibility to do or not do something.

Of course ads and other people will influence us, but even if we ban ads, people will still be able to talk about gambling, etc.

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This is nothing new, gamblers are aware of this and they still decide to gamble. Slots mainly were designed to take from gamblers this is the reason why it's important not to always fix your mind on making profit form gambling even though that's not a bad idea, but for games like slots you must always be ready to lose. Winning from some of these games just comes unexpectedly, they are basically about luck

Funny thing is, lots of online gambling casinos have introduced new ways to make slots interactive and appealing. New ideas, combinations, and even designs were created but all remained the same way- the odds of winning are still significantly low.

Gambling, in general, creates an illusion where a player feels like he won huge amounts of money. But in reality, he just recovered his losses or even lost in the process IF they lack the proper discipline and self-control.

Like what you mentioned, gambling should be viewed for entertainment purposes rather than for profit. If players lose sight of this purpose, then they run into potential issues of addiction which thereby destroys the very meaning of "entertainment" on their end.
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If gambling sites make everyone win all the time, how will they pay users? This is their business, you have to always remember that, so they will design games in such a way that they will fool gamblers and make them lose. This is a simple calculation. So if someone understands this and gambles a lot and loses, it is their failure. Because no platform ever guarantees that a user will win if they gamble there. Many can win big, it depends on luck. Some percentage of the losses of thousands of people are won by one lucky person and that person gets a lot of money. So if everyone individually expects something good from gambling, then it is just their greed, it cannot be a sign of their intelligence.
Casinos are businesses like any other and their aim is to give services and make profit so we should expect that there should be a house edge. Casino businesses are unique, they are not like other businesses that give customers value for their money, they are expected to give many times the value of amount. It is a risky business for them and the gamblers that are their customers, if majority of gamblers are winning the casinos cannot survive. It is left for we gamblers to have wisdom and understand that we should not expect to win everytime we gamble.











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Casinos are businesses like any other and their aim is to give services and make profit so we should expect that there should be a house edge. Casino businesses are unique, they are not like other businesses that give customers value for their money, they are expected to give many times the value of amount. It is a risky business for them and the gamblers that are their customers, if majority of gamblers are winning the casinos cannot survive. It is left for we gamblers to have wisdom and understand that we should not expect to win everytime we gamble.

Yep, every business has risks, but crypto gambling platforms, as I see it, have minimal risks right now. I think so, because many gambling platforms are now at the peak of their income. By the way, recently in the news, there was information that crypto casinos generated more than $81 billion in revenue in 2024.

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Yeah, and we should take advantage of that "sometimes", maybe we can experience winning streak in some games or win big in slot machines. Then we should quit while we are in the top. But the problem is that when greed sets in, then that will be the time that we are going to lose.

We thought that we're invincible and win every games in black jack and or roulette, but when the luck change then that is going to be the worst feeling as we might regret and think that we should have exited already when we have the winnings. Now we are fighting for just our capital to come back and worst it will really be that we can't get and win it as well.
I can't even remember how many similar situations and moments I've had. There's a big win, I should leave with it. But no... Greed gets the better of me and I'm sitting in front of the slots again, increasing the bet. The result, as I suppose, is known to you - empty pockets and a sea of ​​disappointments. Well, why did I continue to play? It was never enough.
I have won big several times while gambling but I could not keep them. Most of the time when gambling we have to lose because of wrong decisions, it is good for us if we do not get too greedy. Whenever there is extra people during gambling, that is the time when there will be more chances of losing because there is never any extra profit during gambling.

You are unable to keep them and make good use of them because you didn't apply wisdom that is running away from the gambling for sometime and use the money for something better or you can still set aside some of the money you won and use a little cent to gamble and make sure not to touch the one you set aside regardless. Some people has big eye, they always want a lion share and a big win before they will feel satisfy and funny enough this kind of people or gambler don't always make out something from gambling because of their mindset. Whenever I'm gambling I don't do it to make the whole gain in the world because it doesn't work that way.

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Yep, every business has risks, but crypto gambling platforms, as I see it, have minimal risks right now. I think so, because many gambling platforms are now at the peak of their income. By the way, recently in the news, there was information that crypto casinos generated more than $81 billion in revenue in 2024.
The crypto casinos are indeed making huge revenues and paying back big cheques in taxes to the government. Despite the ban and restrictions from different jurisdictions players still find out ways to cut around corner to play using crypto. Online casinos are doing great but from the look of things the crypto sector is experiencing the most profit, for the mass adoption of cryptocurrency in the market.

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I dont agree with you OP. In gambling its either you win or you lose.

Slots are casino based games under a gambling platform, anyone who dont know they are either going to win or lose should not gamble. It's not a must that they should. FYI online casinos offers different games, if you cant win while playing slot, it is better you try other options they have.

Exactly mate, there are different varieties of games in a casino, not all would favour every gambler cause some gamblers don't even know how to play them. Moreover, it's a game of luck so every gambler should acknowledge that they'll either win or lose that's why they shouldn't go with all their bank roll but something they'll lose without feeling remorse, like spare cash. If you also notice the image you'll see that there are lots of stones which represent the bankroll according to the OP but the man used just a piece of stone which is his spare cash in reality, that's how it should be, since the house has more edge, you trade your spare cash to entertain yourself and hope on getting lucky in winning rewards.

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If gambling sites make everyone win all the time, how will they pay users? This is their business, you have to always remember that, so they will design games in such a way that they will fool gamblers and make them lose. This is a simple calculation. So if someone understands this and gambles a lot and loses, it is their failure. Because no platform ever guarantees that a user will win if they gamble there. Many can win big, it depends on luck. Some percentage of the losses of thousands of people are won by one lucky person and that person gets a lot of money. So if everyone individually expects something good from gambling, then it is just their greed, it cannot be a sign of their intelligence.

Therefore, you should not expect anything from gambling except for fun and good emotions. And if someone expects to improve their financial situation, then such a person should learn investing or trading. Although, of course, many successful bettors will argue with me, but this is a very risky business, where failure can often ruin even a very good calculation of the outcome of matches. So why invest time and effort where little depends on you?

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