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September 03, 2025, 09:56:48 AM
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UEFA changed the drawing process and the effect was that it made some small country teams more welcome because previously it would be super rare to see any small country reach the champions league. Now league winner teams from many small countries enter directly into the second round of qualifications.

Now with the Conference League around it's also easier to see smaller teams in international competition. But UEFA seems to have rehauled the format for Europa and Champions league too.

Certain countries now enter the second qualifying round directly. In some other international forums I heard that there's some dissatisfaction of this because now mid-tear teams have it easier to enter and effectively take spots of better teams.

I'd venture to guess that UEFA decided it's about the money because there's some really passionate ultras in more disadvantaged parts of europe too. Or am I missing something. Feel free to give your thoughts.


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September 03, 2025, 10:12:28 AM
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Helping smaller countries to get to Champions League or helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries to get too Champions League? I do not think you should use small countries but use more countries instead and also indicate that they are small leagues. Or clubs from smaller countries can also be used instead to make it short.

Please is there a news about it where we can read about it and understand what is going on?

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September 03, 2025, 11:08:04 AM
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Helping smaller countries to get to Champions League or helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries to get too Champions League?
I believe it is helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries and not smaller countries, as you have mentioned.

The benefit to these clubs in smaller leagues is the exposure it will give them from playing bigger clubs in better-known leagues and perhaps the financial aspect. These small clubs have little chance of winning the Champions League, though; they lack the quality, so they are in the competition to fill up space.

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September 03, 2025, 01:27:34 PM
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Helping smaller countries to get to Champions League or helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries to get too Champions League?
I believe it is helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries and not smaller countries, as you have mentioned.
Apart from the experience of playing in tougher leagues, some of these smaller teams will comfortably thrash the big teams we so much adore. same smaller teams will sometimes win against the popular ones during friendlies. it is a good one that we are seeing a more inclusive champions league that is now opened to champions across leagues that are not even all that popular.

The major issue is that most of them can not stand up to the heat that comes with the champions league. even after getting the opportunity of playing they will end up being used as a source of getting cheap point. that is why year after year, we don't really see new teams breaking into contending for the champions league apart from the regular ones we already know. giving smaller teams the previledge of playing for the champions league is not the issue, the issue is that most of them are not even ready to embrace such previledge with the right energy level.

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September 03, 2025, 03:09:15 PM
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Last week on the internet there was a trending video of club that is under Real Madrid group. They were celebrating for qualifying into the Champions League not because they want to compete, but because they want to see the Real Madrid players and be in their stadium. The idea from UEFA is a stunning one, I believe they want to make more money this season because fans who have never watch the Champions League will pay huge money to go watch their favorite team using the current team they fan.

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September 04, 2025, 09:22:45 AM
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The benefit to these clubs in smaller leagues is the exposure it will give them from playing bigger clubs in better-known leagues and perhaps the financial aspect. These small clubs have little chance of winning the Champions League, though; they lack the quality, so they are in the competition to fill up space.
In my own opinion, the clubs have no chance to win Champions League. Even next leagues to highest leagues like EPL, La Liga, Serial A, Lique 1 in France and Serial A has been unable to win the League. I mean leagues from Portugal, Netherlands and others like Turkey and others. They have even been unable to get to final stages.

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September 04, 2025, 10:13:17 AM
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Last week on the internet there was a trending video of club that is under Real Madrid group. They were celebrating for qualifying into the Champions League not because they want to compete, but because they want to see the Real Madrid players and be in their stadium. The idea from UEFA is a stunning one, I believe they want to make more money this season because fans who have never watch the Champions League will pay huge money to go watch their favorite team using the current team they fan.
Some people haven't seen these superstars eyeball to eyeballs and it will be a big opportunity for the football fans in smaller countries to see them because they will go and watch them in the stadium. It's a good motivation also to those smaller clubs because they will learn one or two things from these professional players.

Champions League gives room to fans to move from one country to another in support of their team. Imagine going to a big country to support your club for fun sake. It's going to be a remarkable experience. There's no way that any of these small clubs will go far in the competition but they will be exposed to the world of football.

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September 04, 2025, 10:46:38 AM
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Seems like UEFA is balancing between giving smaller nations more chances and keeping big clubs in. The Conference League helps bring passionate fanbases into Europe, but do you think this adds excitement or waters down the quality?

Did you read this somewhere hope you can share some article off the source. Thank you.

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Last week on the internet there was a trending video of club that is under Real Madrid group. They were celebrating for qualifying into the Champions League not because they want to compete, but because they want to see the Real Madrid players and be in their stadium. The idea from UEFA is a stunning one, I believe they want to make more money this season because fans who have never watch the Champions League will pay huge money to go watch their favorite team using the current team they fan.
That's right, the more the club engagements in the upper league, the more money is being made from it. The smaller clubs would make good money from tickets sold out because their team will be hosting a bigger team in their return home matches. UEFA must have had this thought thoroughly so that other smaller team too can put efforts in building up and also making good profit to enable them also source for good players to make up their team and also they too will be able to showcase their players for other bigger clubs interest.
This development is a good one because all parties involved would benefit from it sequentially as time goes on.

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UEFA changed the drawing process and the effect was that it made some small country teams more welcome because previously it would be super rare to see any small country reach the champions league. Now league winner teams from many small countries enter directly into the second round of qualifications.

Now with the Conference League around it's also easier to see smaller teams in international competition. But UEFA seems to have rehauled the format for Europa and Champions league too.

Certain countries now enter the second qualifying round directly. In some other international forums I heard that there's some dissatisfaction of this because now mid-tear teams have it easier to enter and effectively take spots of better teams.

I'd venture to guess that UEFA decided it's about the money because there's some really passionate ultras in more disadvantaged parts of europe too. Or am I missing something. Feel free to give your thoughts.
More countries, more games, more money. Easy.
But as for me it was bad idea. On the other hand we see more injures, more money for big teams, players cost inflation. Also we have additional international matches. As the result players breaks totally: injures, mental problems, 2 games per week and no rest.

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I believe this would give smaller leagues exposure, as other members have said, and it could also provide other financial opportunities. At least in some way, there are opportunities for smaller clubs.

I'm curious to know what the big clubs or associations think of this. Would they give their input on this change? I'm thinking more opportunity for sponsorship deals and media would increase.

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Now with the Conference League around it's also easier to see smaller teams in international competition. But UEFA seems to have rehauled the format for Europa and Champions league too.
Good, they should go and compete so they get better exposure and some great talents can be seen and recognized too. Although they may not stand a chance against stronger teams, but it's good they get exposed.

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Certain countries now enter the second qualifying round directly. In some other international forums I heard that there's some dissatisfaction of this because now mid-tear teams have it easier to enter and effectively take spots of better teams.
I wouldn't subscribe to this mindset that they're taking spots of anybody, they're the better teams in their league so any recognition to that effect is welcome. If those assumed better teams wanted to participate, they should've qualified for it in their respective leagues. If this information is true then I feel it creates a sense of inclusion to other smaller leagues.

 
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Helping smaller countries to get to Champions League or helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries to get too Champions League?
I believe it is helping clubs from smaller leagues in other countries and not smaller countries, as you have mentioned.
You are right, the reference point is that the new development is to play a helping hand of encouraging the teams as a club in whole and not specifically the associated country.


The benefit to these clubs in smaller leagues is the exposure it will give them from playing bigger clubs in better-known leagues and perhaps the financial aspect. These small clubs have little chance of winning the Champions League, though; they lack the quality, so they are in the competition to fill up space.
It will be as a result to bring promotion to the local (small teams) using the opportunities of playing with bigger teams to expand it "fan base" and networks to explore with the awareness of engagement with international famous leagues.

I see this pattern as a strategy to uproot potential professional players with the entitlements to migrate from the small teams to the big teams because lot of the players have the qualities to play with the big teams while they lack the opportunities to be recognized accordingly.











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Certain countries now enter the second qualifying round directly. In some other international forums I heard that there's some dissatisfaction of this because now mid-tear teams have it easier to enter and effectively take spots of better teams.
i knew that this was gonna be a thing but smaller countries most likely have lesser budget and therefore are in a disadvantage because the big countries have better facilities, training programs and whatnot and i think it is fine to give other countries at least a chance to fight and to make the fighting more exciting and diverse
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The benefit to these clubs in smaller leagues is the exposure it will give them from playing bigger clubs in better-known leagues and perhaps the financial aspect. These small clubs have little chance of winning the Champions League, though; they lack the quality, so they are in the competition to fill up space.
In my own opinion, the clubs have no chance to win Champions League. Even next leagues to highest leagues like EPL, La Liga, Serial A, Lique 1 in France and Serial A has been unable to win the League. I mean leagues from Portugal, Netherlands and others like Turkey and others. They have even been unable to get to final stages.
Things can change, you know; we may have one club from one small league become lucky in the group stages and qualify for the knockout round and then somehow have a clean run to the finals to make history. I am open to possibilities no matter how slim the chances of it happening are.

You remember how in the EPL some seasons ago, in the 2015/2016 season, Leicester City pulled one of the biggest shockers in football, winning the EPL after just spending one season in it?

I know the EPL and UCL are different stages, but the point is that "this is football, and anything can happen."

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Things can change, you know; we may have one club from one small league become lucky in the group stages and qualify for the knockout round and then somehow have a clean run to the finals to make history. I am open to possibilities no matter how slim the chances of it happening are.

You remember how in the EPL some seasons ago, in the 2015/2016 season, Leicester City pulled one of the biggest shockers in football, winning the EPL after just spending one season in it?

I know the EPL and UCL are different stages, but the point is that "this is football, and anything can happen."
I have only seen it only in local leagues like Englsih Premier League, FA Cup and some other ones, and not in foreign leagues like UEFA Champions League. UCL is another thing entirely with what I have seen almost every year. I do not expect lower leagues to win it because the way the clubs from the top leagues are playing it is like they have taken cocaine. The chance is not very low and almost impossible.

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We can all agree that UEFA made a big change, the Swiss 36- team league structure that gives us more games & opens more routes to smaller nations to play in competitions like the conference league even give chance to new teams . But do not be shocked money is the true one that gives a push, the change obviously increases commercial income & opposers even say it helps with the higher ups interest . In my opinion it is both of them ,smaller teams get opportunities but the money motive is clear.

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September 04, 2025, 04:20:20 PM
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Used to small clubs from small countries cannot reach to group phase that because those clubs have to fight since first stage and usually they will be failed to reach the main stages of champion league because for 3rd or 4th qualification rounds they will met strong clubs and i am not really sure why UEFA has decide to change the format but maybe the considering is they want unknown clubs can able to playing in this competition

I think everybody know there is no chances for small clubs to win champion league and i am sure those clubs realize about that because in this competition there are plenty of strong clubs available but the prizes of champion league is very big even since group stages every participants will gets the prizes from broadcast rights so those clubs can used the money to improved their financial condition

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Last week on the internet there was a trending video of club that is under Real Madrid group. They were celebrating for qualifying into the Champions League not because they want to compete, but because they want to see the Real Madrid players and be in their stadium. The idea from UEFA is a stunning one, I believe they want to make more money this season because fans who have never watch the Champions League will pay huge money to go watch their favorite team using the current team they fan.

These clubs earn a lot of money by qualifying for the European Champions League. Their players also gain a lot of visibility when they play in the European Champions League. This can attract sponsors, and the big teams can buy some players from these smaller teams.

I believe that the management of these smaller teams are very happy to participate in the European Champions League. The more money a club has, the more financial power it will have to sign good players. Nowadays, football has become a very big and complex business. From broadcast sales, player sales, and advertising contracts, there are several ways that clubs can make money these days.

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September 04, 2025, 04:45:21 PM
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Certain countries now enter the second qualifying round directly. In some other international forums I heard that there's some dissatisfaction of this because now mid-tear teams have it easier to enter and effectively take spots of better teams.
i knew that this was gonna be a thing but smaller countries most likely have lesser budget and therefore are in a disadvantage because the big countries have better facilities, training programs and whatnot and i think it is fine to give other countries at least a chance to fight and to make the fighting more exciting and diverse

If that is the case, then what is the point in making changes to the champions league format? They are not good enough to quality now, so the changes are just a way to what, get rid of the qualification system? That sounds to me like when a school claims their students are doing better than last year because they lowered the grade required to pass the course. Maybe I am misunderstanding something but I do not really see the point here.



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