Bc.game , how it scammed me by not providing me my deposit

[holydarkness]

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we make a deposit "request" and they will send us an UPI ID, namely a merchant of whom you shall transfer your INR to, and the transaction to that merchant will generate us UTR, of which the UTR shall then submitted to BC for confirmation and crediting?

Not completely, let me walk you through the process here.

When we click UPI deposit request after entering an amount on BC which will gives us one or two UPI options where we can choose anyone and pay. Once we paid we just need to copy UTR which is generated by bank (not by merchant) and paste into BC and click confirm then the balance will just reflect instantly.

Hmm... interesting. I think we might have get closer to the bottom of the matter and it aligned with what I have brewing in my mind from right after I nudged you and you explained to me about UTR as an equal to TXID. Correct me if I am wrong, but once we completed the payment to the merchant [the UPI], the bank will generate a UTR code, that we will then paste into BC, that they will use to credit, correct?

So, OP, JOKERZFIST assuming you're saying the truth here that the merchant is correct, and they're the one BC provided to you to complete the deposit, how possible is it that you simply pasted the wrong UTR to BC? Thus you got the confirmation of failure from BC's side as depicted in your screenshot?

[JOKERZFIST]

Ok let us assume that I pasted the wrong UTR, not the one mentioned in the transaction receipt. But after that I provided you my bank account statement where you can cross check the UTR . And the thing is that UTR is simply a number to represent transaction they can check the merchants bank account and check my name their with the transaction as I am the sender.
Listen dear Bitcoin Smith if you are not either a sender or receiver of a transaction, no bank can tell the details of the transaction using UTR because it is the matter of privacy.

I have provided you the video recording and bank account statement, now let you check merchants bank statement. Then everything will be clear . And I know they can't share with you not because of the security reasons.

the reason  is that bc can use any merchants bank account only for a month then they need to change it. Do you know why. I will tell you the answer, the problem is that the third party payment system in India is used to avoid taxation.And after a month the govt starts to freeze these bank accounts, That is why you might have received the complaints stating that their bank accounts were freezed just because they received withdrawals from bc's merchants.

[holydarkness]

Ok let us assume that I pasted the wrong UTR, not the one mentioned in the transaction receipt. [...]

Yeah, let's assume that. Mind to send me the exact UTR or at least the UTR you pasted to your BC page to confirm the deposit? By PM, certainly, as you said it's something private. I'll try to run this with my contact. And for the time being, might be a good idea to lose the attitude toward others, they're just trying to help you, we all are.

[JOKERZFIST]

No sir , you didn't get me. The UTR in the transaction receipt is correct and I have provided you the bank statement and video recording, you can check it from that. Let's us assume that I mistakenly sent the wrong UTR at the time of the deposit to bc. But that doesn't matter now because they can confirm just the UTR and amount, also my name in the transaction from my bank account statement .

All the details that I sent to you are exact, but may be at the time of deposit i mistakenly pasted the wrong UTR. But the UTR in the transaction receipt, bank account statement, video recording are exact.

And the reason for bc casino to not share the details of the merchant is that they may no longer have access to that account because that might is  frozen by government

I even tried to contact bc casino via casinoguru but they didn't even reply

[Bitcoin Smith]

~ Correct me if I am wrong, but once we completed the payment to the merchant [the UPI], the bank will generate a UTR code, that we will then paste into BC, that they will use to credit, correct?
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There should be some kind of automation involved with these deposits because I don't think the merchant has to go and verify the UTR posted and then click approve then BC can credit the balance into casino account because when I tried deposing 500 INR (around $6) I had no problem at all it just credited into my INR balance immediately.

the reason  is that bc can use any merchants bank account only for a month then they need to change it. Do you know why. I will tell you the answer, the problem is that the third party payment system in India is used to avoid taxation.And after a month the govt starts to freeze these bank accounts, That is why you might have received the complaints stating that their bank accounts were freezed just because they received withdrawals from bc's merchants.

It is not really for tax evasion. BC is not operating from India nor have their office that makes INR deposits more complicated which is why they have to use third party for Indian customers to use their INR itself to play in their casino and this is how most crypto casino enabled INR deposits and withdrawals.

Government is not freezing any bank account here especially for tax evasion and it happens because of multi layer stupid bank freeze law in place to stop scammers and I explained pretty well here Why bank freeze happens - Detailed version and this law is not protecting anyone but leaves the innocent to lose their funds.

They can freeze bank account for tax evasion too but it is something that will take years and enough warnings and notices send by IT and enough time to pay the tax and if someone still ignoring all these notices then government can freeze any funds in their possession such as bank accounts, demat account, assets to recover the claimed amount.

[JOKERZFIST]

You are right sir , but do you know these merchant accounts are frozen right after a month. The reason for these merchant accounts to freeze is not tax evasion, tax evasion is the cause for bc casino to not operate here in India legally because it is not a big problem for bc casino to operate legally so that no player can have any problem.

Most of the transactions from bc casino remain the cause of bank account freeze for players, check it from other players .we don't know about the money where it is coming from.most of the scammers deposit their black money in these merchant accounts then this money is transferred via withdrawal to other bank accounts.

[holydarkness]

No sir , you didn't get me. The UTR in the transaction receipt is correct and I have provided you the bank statement and video recording, you can check it from that. Let's us assume that I mistakenly sent the wrong UTR at the time of the deposit to bc. But that doesn't matter now because they can confirm just the UTR and amount, also my name in the transaction from my bank account statement .

All the details that I sent to you are exact, but may be at the time of deposit i mistakenly pasted the wrong UTR. But the UTR in the transaction receipt, bank account statement, video recording are exact.

And the reason for bc casino to not share the details of the merchant is that they may no longer have access to that account because that might is  frozen by government

I even tried to contact bc casino via casinoguru but they didn't even reply

Just... would you mind to send me the real UTR, I'll ask BC to look into their record and see the UTR they got from what you entered during deposit and see if it's matched or not, and we can get this case resolved with perhaps that very little mistake.

My contact said that the reason of the fund not being credited to you is because the merchant they use didn't receive the payment. Given you have payment proof here, I'll assume the next possible situation, namely a simple mistake where you entered a wrong UTR, and the merchant can't find your transaction. Thus when BC tried to match the UTR they have with the UTR on the merchant's "database", there were not any transaction under that "ID".

[JOKERZFIST]

Sorry to say , I think you are trying to defend them here.what do you mean by real UTR , I have sent you my bank details, how can you say send me real UTR.

Suppose I entered the wrong UTR at the time of deposit, not the UTR in my transaction receipt.Now you have real UTR which is in the transaction receipt viz 688892689648.but sir the problem is not now whether I entered wrong or right. The problem is I have sent you my bank details where every thing is real and exact and you are saying send me real UTR.
Did they show you the merchants bank details, ask them for it then everything will be clear.
I remember clearly i entered the correct UTR at the time of the deposit, I was assuming that if I had entered the wrong.

[holydarkness]

Sorry to say , I think you are trying to defend them here.what do you mean by real UTR , I have sent you my bank details, how can you say send me real UTR.

Suppose I entered the wrong UTR at the time of deposit, not the UTR in my transaction receipt.Now you have real UTR which is in the transaction receipt viz 688892689648.but sir the problem is not now whether I entered wrong or right. The problem is I have sent you my bank details where every thing is real and exact and you are saying send me real UTR.
Did they show you the merchants bank details, ask them for it then everything will be clear.
I remember clearly i entered the correct UTR at the time of the deposit, I was assuming that if I had entered the wrong.

Remember the part where I say I will only scan your documents to see if it contains element that's needed by my contact and not gonna read the details of it? Yeah. I think I've accidentally proven myself that I am indeed not that nosy and never have any intention to read someone's private info and only serve as a medium, as I don't read your details, at all. I only glance, relayed, and that's it.

You sent me the bank details so how can I say you don't send me the real UTR? Well, one, it's because I don't read your bank details and each of your transaction, I respect your privacy. Two, by "real" UTR, I am meaning the UTR that is generated to you when you fulfilled the payment, not the one that you probably mis-copied or partially copied and accidentally missed a character or two.

Next, I am currently inquiring to them too, to check, aside from explaining to me what they mean with that merchant situation and how that possible, as well as checking another working theory on my mind. An investigation following my inquiries are ongoing. But if you think I am trying to defend them, I don't think there is any point in moving forward and overseeing your case, as anything I said will just meet with an attitude that will add a compound to my headache.

[JOKERZFIST]

Sorry sir don't take it otherwise, it has been a month and they didn't even reply from other platforms as I had also registered complaint via casinoguru, the correct UTR is 688892689648.

Sir everything thing is clear i don't understand why are they doing this to their players

[JOKERZFIST]

Dear holydarkness why is it taking so long, help me sir

[holydarkness]

Dear holydarkness why is it taking so long, help me sir

To contradict myself on what I said on your other thread [I'll repeat: lock that one], I might need more time to figure out what happened. My contact came with a finding that... quite serious, of which I thought is the reason why this whole situatiton happened, but then I think we're back to square one and this finding that they unearthed turned into a side-issue [we'll get into this later after we figure the main issue at hand].

I am inquiring the possibility that the merchant double-play you and BC [it won't be the first time with INR fiat transaction and UPI merchants], but they're yet to return to me with anything. Please hold. And for the time being, your idle hand can probably be used to lock your other thread.

[JOKERZFIST]

Sir I locked the other thread, coming to this thread the merchant was hired by the bc casino. I paid that merchant via bc casino, bc is solely responsible for this , why did they make me suffer .

[holydarkness]

Sir I locked the other thread, coming to this thread the merchant was hired by the bc casino. I paid that merchant via bc casino, bc is solely responsible for this , why did they make me suffer .

The merchant offers their service to every casinos and other entities, if I infer correctly from explanation given by other players and if I may read between lines that BC uses different merchants instead of exclusively with one.

And, above scenario where the merchant is playing you both, though it's not unlikely, it is also has unlikelihood. Hence, it is best to approach it as a mere speculation and wait for my contact to come with their finding regarding this. I believe, in case that BC found out the merchant tricked you both instead of the issue coming from your side, they will pay you as they have no intention to make their customer to suffer.

[JOKERZFIST]

Sir is there any update from your contact

[JOKERZFIST]

Sir I locked the other thread, coming to this thread the merchant was hired by the bc casino. I paid that merchant via bc casino, bc is solely responsible for this , why did they make me suffer .

The merchant offers their service to every casinos and other entities, if I infer correctly from explanation given by other players and if I may read between lines that BC uses different merchants instead of exclusively with one.

And, above scenario where the merchant is playing you both, though it's not unlikely, it is also has unlikelihood. Hence, it is best to approach it as a mere speculation and wait for my contact to come with their finding regarding this. I believe, in case that BC found out the merchant tricked you both instead of the issue coming from your side, they will pay you as they have no intention to make their customer to suffer.

Sir any update

[holydarkness]

Sir any update

With zero intention to be rude, rather voicing my mind, INR-related matter, I honestly lost track who I already addressed, where, which thread, what platform, and what did we cover on our last conversation. So in case I haven't inform you this, [again, no intention to be rude] I'll repeat: the contact assigned for this matter has to leave for personal emergency.

They told me that it won't be long, but I think they probably underestimated the situation and is still currently engaged with their personal matter. I've nudge them today to see how they're doing, and I haven't hear back. I'll reach you once they're done with their matter and return to me with your case.

[JOKERZFIST]

Sir any update

With zero intention to be rude, rather voicing my mind, INR-related matter, I honestly lost track who I already addressed, where, which thread, what platform, and what did we cover on our last conversation. So in case I haven't inform you this, [again, no intention to be rude] I'll repeat: the contact assigned for this matter has to leave for personal emergency.

They told me that it won't be long, but I think they probably underestimated the situation and is still currently engaged with their personal matter. I've nudge them today to see how they're doing, and I haven't hear back. I'll reach you once they're done with their matter and return to me with your case.

understood sir, but has been almost 2 months since the deposit. Please try to contact them

[holydarkness]

Sir any update

With zero intention to be rude, rather voicing my mind, INR-related matter, I honestly lost track who I already addressed, where, which thread, what platform, and what did we cover on our last conversation. So in case I haven't inform you this, [again, no intention to be rude] I'll repeat: the contact assigned for this matter has to leave for personal emergency.

They told me that it won't be long, but I think they probably underestimated the situation and is still currently engaged with their personal matter. I've nudge them today to see how they're doing, and I haven't hear back. I'll reach you once they're done with their matter and return to me with your case.

understood sir, but has been almost 2 months since the deposit. Please try to contact them

I have, periodically, though sparsely instead of as intense as how I do with other cases and other contacts. I can understand your situation, that the duration is a bit beyond acceptable standard. However, as I've explained on above quoted post, my contact has to attend personal emergency and take their leave. I hope you can respect this urgent need, as I am respecting their emergency situation and giving them time until their personal matter got resolved.

[JOKERZFIST]

Sir any update

With zero intention to be rude, rather voicing my mind, INR-related matter, I honestly lost track who I already addressed, where, which thread, what platform, and what did we cover on our last conversation. So in case I haven't inform you this, [again, no intention to be rude] I'll repeat: the contact assigned for this matter has to leave for personal emergency.

They told me that it won't be long, but I think they probably underestimated the situation and is still currently engaged with their personal matter. I've nudge them today to see how they're doing, and I haven't hear back. I'll reach you once they're done with their matter and return to me with your case.

understood sir, but has been almost 2 months since the deposit. Please try to contact them

I have, periodically, though sparsely instead of as intense as how I do with other cases and other contacts. I can understand your situation, that the duration is a bit beyond acceptable standard. However, as I've explained on above quoted post, my contact has to attend personal emergency and take their leave. I hope you can respect this urgent need, as I am respecting their emergency situation and giving them time until their personal matter got resolved.

sir understood.