mixers to casino - vice versa ( will it cause problem? )

[Distinctin]

I’m just wondering - some of us like to boost our privacy, and one way is by using mixers (CoinJoin, Tornado, etc.) or other tools that hide transaction trails. On the surface, that looks fine, since we’re only trying to make our transactions more private.

But here’s the problem: casinos are regulated. Regulators often flag mixer-related addresses as “high risk” or even “suspicious.” So if you withdraw your winnings to a mixer, it could backfire with the following problem.

1- Casino freezes your funds.
2- Withdrawals get delayed.
3- Or worse, your winnings get withheld in the name of “compliance.”

So the question is,  does using a mixer put us at risk when dealing with casinos? Are we better off keeping privacy tools away from gambling wallets, or should we expect casinos to respect privacy since this is crypto in the first place?

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

[Webetcoins]

I have tried depositing such coins into exchange and casino but did not face any issue. I have cleared up to level-2 KYC with those services which may be the reason why this was not a peculiar case for me.

I guess, as long as your new coins are clean in terms of any criminal activity as per the shared database of addresses of criminal background based coins, you are free to deposit from anywhere.

Moreover, all my services are not giving me any such warning for my deposits. Still, this doesn't mean that they are NOT checking my coins' history with those database.

If casinos and exchanges give prior guidelines on this, I guess it would be good for us but that at the same time will alert those real criminals to look for a problem free service to spend/cash out their coins.

Note: Avoided major key words for compliance.

[notblox1]

If you want to be sure you wont have your coins blocked in account use casinos that dont have strict verification rules, or ones that dont have any kyc for registration.
One small casino I recommend that never asks for verification is l0tt0.com, but they dont have a lot of games compared to big casinos.
TO be sure you can check your addresses before sending and see if they are reporting any connection with theft and scams.

[KTChampions]

What is the point of withdrawing money from a casino directly to a mixer? To create additional risks? Why can't you first withdraw to a new clean address and then transfer to a mixer?
Personally, I decided that it is better to make any transfers between services through intermediate addresses and never withdraw money from one service directly to another. Maybe I pay an additional commission for the transfer, but at least I remove unnecessary risks.

[Agbamoni]

A colleague would always send deposit from mixer to the casino address how come the casino dont withhold the money from entering their account due to their regulation policies but when it comes to withdrawals they form all sort of excuses not to release the money.

If what you say is true, then casinos are only setting polices that will favor only them.

[mikel_012]

I think if you want to do this, you need to

1. use a casino that is very trusted and doesn't use compliance as blind excuse to freeze coins
2. use a trusted mixer that has good aml score and clean coins

If you use shady casinos they will use any excuse to steal your coins, and mixers can be safe to clean coins but many just use customers coins as the sourced coins so you could be getting dirty bitcoins that are worse than your original ones.

[coin-investor]

So the question is,  does using a mixer put us at risk when dealing with casinos? Are we better off keeping privacy tools away from gambling wallets, or should we expect casinos to respect privacy since this is crypto in the first place?

Mixers are often associated with illicit activities, so to prevent your account from being flagged by casinos, it's advisable to keep funds allocated for casinos separate from those intended for use with mixers until authorities recognize them as a legitimate privacy tool rather than a money laundering tool.

Casinos make it clear that they are not a money laundering platform nor an extension of money laundering tools, so if they trace your coins coming from mixers, you risk getting your funds frozen and confiscated.

[Patikno]

I’m just wondering - some of us like to boost our privacy, and one way is by using mixers (CoinJoin, Tornado, etc.) or other tools that hide transaction trails. On the surface, that looks fine, since we’re only trying to make our transactions more private.

But here’s the problem: casinos are regulated. Regulators often flag mixer-related addresses as “high risk” or even “suspicious.” So if you withdraw your winnings to a mixer, it could backfire with the following problem.

1- Casino freezes your funds.
2- Withdrawals get delayed.
3- Or worse, your winnings get withheld in the name of “compliance.”

So the question is,  does using a mixer put us at risk when dealing with casinos? Are we better off keeping privacy tools away from gambling wallets, or should we expect casinos to respect privacy since this is crypto in the first place?

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

Based on the latest information I have ever read, if someone uses a Tornado mixer to deposit funds into a casino (especially an American casino) or vice versa, there won't be any issues, because this mixer has successfully escaped sanctions from the OFAC (Office of Foreign Assets Control) and the removal of the Tornado Cash mixer from the blacklist. So I don't think it would be a problem if a user did what I mentioned. However, I am not sure what to do if someone uses a different type of mixer and uses a casino located in another country, I haven't found any clear information yet, so that is all for now.

Here, is the reference regarding what I am talking about : coinpaper.com - Privacy in the Crypto Industry: U.S. Court Legalizes Bitcoin Mixers & home.treasury.gov - Tornado Cash Delisting

[Distinctin]

TO be sure you can check your addresses before sending and see if they are reporting any connection with theft and scams.

If that’s possible, then I’d like to know how to check it. considering it’s coming from mixers, their platforms could also be used for illegal transactions, so there’s a risk that the address might be associated with bad ones. I’m curious how we can know - are there websites or apps we can use to check?

[Nwada001]

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

I have not gotten my withdrawal delayed as a result of using a privacy tool. I always know how to comply with casino rules and regulations. Even if I want to increase the privacy of my withdrawal from a casino, it's not ideal to withdraw directly into a mixer; instead, it's better if we just withdraw to a self-custody wallet first, and then later you can send it to wherever-you want and break the chain that connects it together.

[Su-asa]

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

I haven't had a blocked or restricted withdrawals from any crypto casino before. I have made any deposit into my bet account with a mixer either. But since most casinos are regulated, they have strict rules towards cheating or money laundering.
As a gambler if you want your online casino account not no be restricted you must never make a deposit into your casino account with a mixer or withdraw to a mixer either. Make sure to use different wallets for withdrawals and deposit from casino account.

[YOSHIE]

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

As far as I know for a legal casino in one of the countries or who has a license, a deposit from the mixer to the casino after the crypto fund is mixed and directly transferred to the masino it is considered as an activity Money laundering and illegal activities by the casino, of course, if you do so it will be blocked, it applies to a license casino, do not know for casinos not licensed or illegal.

For this reason, crypto funds often occur directly from mixer to casino funds often have problems or frozen, it is considered illegal, so don't make a deposit from the mixer to the casino, if you are freezing/blocked you will have problems, That is a legal and financial risk for users and benefits for the casino, your money never returns.

[Fortify]

I'm not sure that mixer discussion is allowed here, even in general terms - definitely not seen it referred to for a long time. If a mixer is any good then surely it should be giving you a unique address for you to send over payments and it would be pretty much impossible for a casino to know what entity generated it. I've not used a mixer before, but are you suggesting that they share the same address for a large group of users? How to they distinguish incoming funds and make sure the outgoing ends up at the right place? If your Bitcoin wallet is not hosted on an exchange then it shouldn't be much of an issue for you to receive funds that way, as you can create as many receiving addresses as you want and is probably safer than involving a third party mixer.

[Davidvictorson]

So the question is,  does using a mixer put us at risk when dealing with casinos? Are we better off keeping privacy tools away from gambling wallets, or should we expect casinos to respect privacy since this is crypto in the first place?

I think that basically, we should just read the terms of service of a casino to avoid any issues with them. Anyone who is concerned about privacy will basically find it hard to gamble in a casino unless they use and offshore casino that is not regulated. In the first place you already submitted KYC documents, your privacy is already gone. Using a mixer after this has been done is raising a red flag and the casino has every right to protect themselves by doing a thorough investigation before releasing your winnings.

[rdluffy]

That's a good question
Perhaps the best way to do this with more privacy and security for you would be to always send from your own wallet to the Casino
Never send from exchanges or other services, as this can help ensure future problems are resolved
You can check if your coins' AML is good for a little more security

If it is a very large amount, it may be worth asking the Casino first to be sure, as it is difficult and impossible to have a definite answer for all casinos that exist

[Solosanz]

Why did you send your coins directly from casino to mixer? you can use non custodial wallet first.

Based on my experience, the casino neither block my withdrawal or account, as long as you've submit your KYC. Usually the casino will flag your account if you receive/send the coins related to mixing service.

2. use a trusted mixer that has good aml score and clean coins

My question, how to know the mixer has a good AML score and clean coins?

[Dunamisx]

1- Casino freezes your funds.
2- Withdrawals get delayed.
3- Or worse, your winnings get withheld in the name of “compliance.”

So the question is,  does using a mixer put us at risk when dealing with casinos? Are we better off keeping privacy tools away from gambling wallets, or should we expect casinos to respect privacy since this is crypto in the first place?

Casinos are not exchanges that do perform some of these kind of checks for the safety regulation policies, gambling platforms only consider the use of their platform and how we have been able not to bypass their system security for their own safety, so i don't see any casino that has run a check by suspecting account deposit from a mixer, before you can have issues with the gambling platforms is when you have violated their rules and i don't think it has to do with using a mixer or not.

[₿itcoin]

Yes, using a mixer can raise suspicions, they only take action if you withdraw vast amount otherwise it is rare. Anti-money laundering and tax evasion watchdogs consider mixers to be extremely dangerous, and the FinCEN/OFAC crackdown is a clear example of the real penalties. Also there are stablecoin issuers and online exchangers like Binance that suspend funds when a mixer is used. Casinos, on the other hand, have KYC/AML, so withdrawals can be delayed, suspended, or denied if they somehow notice the withdrawal wallet is suspicious.

So, it is best not to mix funds from a casino, ask support first if they accept mixer, afaik most of the exchange nowadays accept short deposit from casino, so it is better solution to use exchange.

[Cantsay]

I’d like to hear from those who have actual experience,  have you ever had a withdrawal blocked or delayed just because you routed it through a mixer? Or do casinos not care as long as your account is verified?

I have never done a deposit from a mixer directly to my casino account before, but I think I have done it once for my Binance account although I didn’t experience any issue, but after reading about the possible issues that may arise if I keep doing it I had to stop, the same goes for withdrawing from my gambling account directly to my exchange wallet.

But I think, if you winder your coin to a wallet and then send it to the exchange or casino you reallly shouldn’t have any problems because I have always made it an habit to always withdraw first to my wallet before sending to my exchange and I haven’t encountered any issues yet.

[BIT-BENDER]

If you want to be sure you wont have your coins blocked in account use casinos that dont have strict verification rules, or ones that dont have any kyc for registration.
One small casino I recommend that never asks for verification is l0tt0.com, but they dont have a lot of games compared to big casinos.
TO be sure you can check your addresses before sending and see if they are reporting any connection with theft and scams.

I don't know about the casino you mentioned but you made great sense to solve most problems like this is for you to find the casino that best fits your taste and lifestyle. And also not all Casino will have problems with you just because you are using a mixer expect that you may have been linked to a Problem funds that you may or may not be aware of.