Is there any way to track stolen Asic miners.

[Outhue]

Possible urgent help needed.

Some criminals raided my friends place in the last 13 hours now and they get away with two Asic miners, I doubt they even know what it was because they kept asking my friend what it was with gun pointed to him and his family.

I just want to know if there is possible way to track the Asic miners if they ever come online? I don't know if this is possible though since miners use specific IP address for control and to change receiving/payout address they need to plug the miners and edit the address.

Is there anyway to track Asic miners via IP address or any other ways? Since they don't know what it was I bet they will still have to find ways to figure it out, mind you they stolen other goods in the house too, almost all electronics available was stolen.

[Karl_3000]

If police can not be able to know where the thieves went, there is no way you can know the location of the mixers. I guess what they will do is that they will see the miner. Also only what the miner will later do is to generate hash rate from different IP address which can not be used to know if the miner belongs to your friend or not.

[FP91G]

I have seen such stories among miners in Russia, and I can say that if criminals are caught quickly by the police, the equipment is found.
The police in my country will definitely not search for equipment by IP address, unless an independent specialist finds it and passes the data on to the police.  Check out your local pawn shops and websites selling used electronics.

[philipma1957]

Possible urgent help needed.

Some criminals raided my friends place in the last 13 hours now and they get away with two Asic miners, I doubt they even know what it was because they kept asking my friend what it was with gun pointed to him and his family.

I just want to know if there is possible way to track the Asic miners if they ever come online? I don't know if this is possible though since miners use specific IP address for control and to change receiving/payout address they need to plug the miners and edit the address.

Is there anyway to track Asic miners via IP address or any other ways? Since they don't know what it was I bet they will still have to find ways to figure it out, mind you they stolen other goods in the house too, almost all electronics available was stolen.

They are not easy to track.

Did the real owner copy the serial numbers?

If not you have zero chance of proving the gear is yours.

Also what was the gear?

If a person is willing to point a gun at someone to rob gear it matters a lot as to the quality of the gear.

IE 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116764611128? a $250 unit 2 of them are worth about $500
     
https://www.ebay.com/itm/157151847891? a $6689 unit 2 of them are worth about $13,378


So did they their rob shit gear or good gear.

[BitMaxz]

I don't know if pools are scanning the details of the miner, including the serial number, but that's the only way to know if the miner is yours.

If the owner knows the serial number, maybe the pool can provide the home IP address of the robber when the unit becomes online again.
Since before they can change the pool and username, they need to run it first and access it via the miner's IP; it would connect first to the pool.

However, having the home IP of the robber won't still guarantee that you can find them, but you can check that IP to see what ISP it use so that you can request from that internet provider who owns that IP.
Once you know who he is with his home address, you can call the police for help.

[philipma1957]

I don't know if pools are scanning the details of the miner, including the serial number, but that's the only way to know if the miner is yours.

If the owner knows the serial number, maybe the pool can provide the home IP address of the robber when the unit becomes online again.
Since before they can change the pool and username, they need to run it first and access it via the miner's IP; it would connect first to the pool.

However, having the home IP of the robber won't still guarantee that you can find them, but you can check that IP to see what ISP it use so that you can request from that internet provider who owns that IP.
Once you know who he is with his home address, you can call the police for help.

I would love to know if they have a copy of the serial numbers.

Bitmain miners domhave serial numbers.

So,maybe the op,could let us know.

[Shishir99]

I don't know if pools are scanning the details of the miner, including the serial number, but that's the only way to know if the miner is yours.

If the owner knows the serial number, maybe the pool can provide the home IP address of the robber when the unit becomes online again.
Since before they can change the pool and username, they need to run it first and access it via the miner's IP; it would connect first to the pool.

However, having the home IP of the robber won't still guarantee that you can find them, but you can check that IP to see what ISP it use so that you can request from that internet provider who owns that IP.
Once you know who he is with his home address, you can call the police for help.

Do you think the pool would help a guy get his ASICS back? I am not sure if the pool scans the serial number of the ASICS. Even if it does, how would the owner know the name of the pool where his ASICS is currently mining, given there are hundreds of pools? I think the victim has to file a case first, mention the serial number, and send emails to all the pools with the attachment and request them to check if there are any ASICS online with the serial number. Since we don't know if the pool actually scans the serial number, we are unsure if OP could help his friend.

[kano]

Pools have no idea what the serial number of the miner is.
There's nothing to identify a miner to the pool other than the type of miner it is (which can also be vague)

The IP of the miner will be whatever it got from your local network, so that wont mean anything.
If you provided it with a static internet IP, then it wont work anywhere else than at your place, so they'll just change it.
However, most of the time the IP a miner has is DHCP from your internal home network, so again that wont identify it.

Hope the police can find them, coz you wont find the miner on the internet using any identification info you might have.

[philipma1957]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

[Outhue]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The stolen miners are not that old, a Bitmain s21 and a Canaan Avalon miner, the mini home heater with 37TH, I believe the S21 is the more costly one, so far the criminals aren't caught yet but the manhunt for them is on, I hope something will come up because it took a lot of time before this my friend can gather the money to buy these miners, he always ask me first before he go for any.

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

[FP91G]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The stolen miners are not that old, a Bitmain s21 and a Canaan Avalon miner, the mini home heater with 37TH, I believe the S21 is the more costly one, so far the criminals aren't caught yet but the manhunt for them is on, I hope something will come up because it took a lot of time before this my friend can gather the money to buy these miners, he always ask me first before he go for any.

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

[Outhue]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The stolen miners are not that old, a Bitmain s21 and a Canaan Avalon miner, the mini home heater with 37TH, I believe the S21 is the more costly one, so far the criminals aren't caught yet but the manhunt for them is on, I hope something will come up because it took a lot of time before this my friend can gather the money to buy these miners, he always ask me first before he go for any.

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

Robbing unknown house with a gun makes the job easier, some home owners might be stubborn or know how to defend themselves, for once let's turn this around, won't you fight or stand your ground if intruders are not with guns but come for your family? This is why they carry gun.

By the way where are you from? This is the first time I will hear about a country where thieves don't carry gun, you can't say this if you are in America, in my country you can be robbed in the day light or get shot, my friend hardly brings in visitors, he is not the type that's too friendly with people but thanks for your contribution.

[FP91G]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The stolen miners are not that old, a Bitmain s21 and a Canaan Avalon miner, the mini home heater with 37TH, I believe the S21 is the more costly one, so far the criminals aren't caught yet but the manhunt for them is on, I hope something will come up because it took a lot of time before this my friend can gather the money to buy these miners, he always ask me first before he go for any.

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

Robbing unknown house with a gun makes the job easier, some home owners might be stubborn or know how to defend themselves, for once let's turn this around, won't you fight or stand your ground if intruders are not with guns but come for your family? This is why they carry gun.

By the way where are you from? This is the first time I will hear about a country where thieves don't carry gun, you can't say this if you are in America, in my country you can be robbed in the day light or get shot, my friend hardly brings in visitors, he is not the type that's too friendly with people but thanks for your contribution.

I am from Russia. In Russia, unlike America, weapons are prohibited for sale. You can own a hunting gun and you can have a weapon for self-defense that shoots rubber bullets. But in most cases, if I use a traumatic weapon against an unarmed person, I will have problems with the law, because I will cause more harm than I will receive. To put it simply, it is better not to use this weapon when bandits beat me with their hands or feet in a crowded place where there are cameras and witnesses.

In my country, if a house is robbed when no one is there, then the regular police investigate the case. If the robbery was with a weapon, then the case is investigated by special departments in the police, and they will look for the criminals for a long time. Therefore, in our country, thieves usually watch the house and wait until the owners are not home.

If in your country everyone has a gun, and criminals rob houses without preparation, then I am sure that they will soon be shot by the owners of the house during the next robbery.

[philipma1957]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The stolen miners are not that old, a Bitmain s21 and a Canaan Avalon miner, the mini home heater with 37TH, I believe the S21 is the more costly one, so far the criminals aren't caught yet but the manhunt for them is on, I hope something will come up because it took a lot of time before this my friend can gather the money to buy these miners, he always ask me first before he go for any.

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

Robbing unknown house with a gun makes the job easier, some home owners might be stubborn or know how to defend themselves, for once let's turn this around, won't you fight or stand your ground if intruders are not with guns but come for your family? This is why they carry gun.

By the way where are you from? This is the first time I will hear about a country where thieves don't carry gun, you can't say this if you are in America, in my country you can be robbed in the day light or get shot, my friend hardly brings in visitors, he is not the type that's too friendly with people but thanks for your contribution.

I am from Russia. In Russia, unlike America, weapons are prohibited for sale. You can own a hunting gun and you can have a weapon for self-defense that shoots rubber bullets. But in most cases, if I use a traumatic weapon against an unarmed person, I will have problems with the law, because I will cause more harm than I will receive. To put it simply, it is better not to use this weapon when bandits beat me with their hands or feet in a crowded place where there are cameras and witnesses.

In my country, if a house is robbed when no one is there, then the regular police investigate the case. If the robbery was with a weapon, then the case is investigated by special departments in the police, and they will look for the criminals for a long time. Therefore, in our country, thieves usually watch the house and wait until the owners are not home.

If in your country everyone has a gun, and criminals rob houses without preparation, then I am sure that they will soon be shot by the owners of the house during the next robbery.

Well it sad that robbing a person at gunpoint for about 3 or 4 thousand in gear seems like a good idea to a thief

[Outhue]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

Robbing unknown house with a gun makes the job easier, some home owners might be stubborn or know how to defend themselves, for once let's turn this around, won't you fight or stand your ground if intruders are not with guns but come for your family? This is why they carry gun.

By the way where are you from? This is the first time I will hear about a country where thieves don't carry gun, you can't say this if you are in America, in my country you can be robbed in the day light or get shot, my friend hardly brings in visitors, he is not the type that's too friendly with people but thanks for your contribution.

I am from Russia. In Russia, unlike America, weapons are prohibited for sale. You can own a hunting gun and you can have a weapon for self-defense that shoots rubber bullets. But in most cases, if I use a traumatic weapon against an unarmed person, I will have problems with the law, because I will cause more harm than I will receive. To put it simply, it is better not to use this weapon when bandits beat me with their hands or feet in a crowded place where there are cameras and witnesses.

In my country, if a house is robbed when no one is there, then the regular police investigate the case. If the robbery was with a weapon, then the case is investigated by special departments in the police, and they will look for the criminals for a long time. Therefore, in our country, thieves usually watch the house and wait until the owners are not home.

If in your country everyone has a gun, and criminals rob houses without preparation, then I am sure that they will soon be shot by the owners of the house during the next robbery.

We are not allowed to own a gun here too but we lack cameras in every corners and angles in the cities and towns, Russia is like 10 years in the future compare to my country, we are still living the past. Kidnapping and robbery is something that happens always every week in different states here in my country.

For people to protect themselves they had to trained dogs into guard dogs, this is the onlg thing that robbers and criminals fear in my country, the likes of Rottweiler and Boerboel are scary for them after few have shown no mercy to thieves, other than this there is nothing else.

A house getting robbed when no one is there is a mystery here, something that doesn't happen often compare to getting robbed when you are at home, some will wait for you at your entrance when you want to open your main gate, it's scary out here.

[FP91G]

he never posted back.

i was interested in what miners were stolen.


it would be sad to stick someone up for a pair of older s19’s

The serial numbers was never recorded or snapped with camera because he never had any reason to do so, @Everyone thanks for your concern and contribution.

I don't know what kind of country you have and how people steal there, but in my country thieves don't carry guns. Robbery is punishable by a very long prison sentence. I can assume that since robbers came to your friends with guns, it means they knew that they had money or valuable property, and who in their inner circle passed the information to the criminals. Otherwise, it is very stupid to rob an unknown house with a gun.
You need to analyze this information, your friends' acquaintances and perhaps you will find the reasons for the robbery.

Robbing unknown house with a gun makes the job easier, some home owners might be stubborn or know how to defend themselves, for once let's turn this around, won't you fight or stand your ground if intruders are not with guns but come for your family? This is why they carry gun.

By the way where are you from? This is the first time I will hear about a country where thieves don't carry gun, you can't say this if you are in America, in my country you can be robbed in the day light or get shot, my friend hardly brings in visitors, he is not the type that's too friendly with people but thanks for your contribution.

I am from Russia. In Russia, unlike America, weapons are prohibited for sale. You can own a hunting gun and you can have a weapon for self-defense that shoots rubber bullets. But in most cases, if I use a traumatic weapon against an unarmed person, I will have problems with the law, because I will cause more harm than I will receive. To put it simply, it is better not to use this weapon when bandits beat me with their hands or feet in a crowded place where there are cameras and witnesses.

In my country, if a house is robbed when no one is there, then the regular police investigate the case. If the robbery was with a weapon, then the case is investigated by special departments in the police, and they will look for the criminals for a long time. Therefore, in our country, thieves usually watch the house and wait until the owners are not home.

If in your country everyone has a gun, and criminals rob houses without preparation, then I am sure that they will soon be shot by the owners of the house during the next robbery.

We are not allowed to own a gun here too but we lack cameras in every corners and angles in the cities and towns, Russia is like 10 years in the future compare to my country, we are still living the past. Kidnapping and robbery is something that happens always every week in different states here in my country.

For people to protect themselves they had to trained dogs into guard dogs, this is the onlg thing that robbers and criminals fear in my country, the likes of Rottweiler and Boerboel are scary for them after few have shown no mercy to thieves, other than this there is nothing else.

A house getting robbed when no one is there is a mystery here, something that doesn't happen often compare to getting robbed when you are at home, some will wait for you at your entrance when you want to open your main gate, it's scary out here.

What country are you in?
In Russia in 1992-2002 it was about the same, but professional criminals had certain rules that could not be broken. It was forbidden to rob ordinary citizens, pensioners. Usually they robbed businessmen, officials and other rich people. There was no point in robbing an ordinary person who lives on one salary. If you rob a businessman, you can get more than robbing dozens of ordinary workers.
There were also many drug addicts who robbed everyone, but such people were killed and maimed by both professional criminals and ordinary citizens. Drug addicts had no principles.
A trained dog will protect you from a street hooligan or a drug addict, but not from professional robbers with a gun.
If in Russia a criminal robs people with a gun without preparation, many people will fight with their bare hands. And the criminal will have to shoot people. Or in your country can criminals shoot people without problems or do all people immediately become afraid at the sight of a gun and voluntarily give up all their property?

[Outhue]

FP91G, I am from Nigeria and security is a big mess here, to get a licensed gun over here is like almost impossible, unless you have connection with high class people or you are a soldier or a cop. They won't allow people to own licensed gun and that's the biggest problem here.

Yet criminals have guns, same as the kidnappers and even small time criminals in the street, it's either they make local guns themselves or they get a gun somehow, criminals can shoot people here but can only face the law if they are caught. I've seen dogs fought off criminals with gun, some dogs are trained to aim for the hand, but I get you, it's a 50/50 chnace, if the criminal is careful they can take the dogs out on sight.

Sadly this is one of the nonsense that we have to deal with over here and the rulers don't care, they only know how to keep their families safe but not the citizens of the country.

[FP91G]

FP91G, I am from Nigeria and security is a big mess here, to get a licensed gun over here is like almost impossible, unless you have connection with high class people or you are a soldier or a cop. They won't allow people to own licensed gun and that's the biggest problem here.

Yet criminals have guns, same as the kidnappers and even small time criminals in the street, it's either they make local guns themselves or they get a gun somehow, criminals can shoot people here but can only face the law if they are caught. I've seen dogs fought off criminals with gun, some dogs are trained to aim for the hand, but I get you, it's a 50/50 chnace, if the criminal is careful they can take the dogs out on sight.

Sadly this is one of the nonsense that we have to deal with over here and the rulers don't care, they only know how to keep their families safe but not the citizens of the country.

I have not been to Nigeria but I have seen a similar situation. We went to school, in a bag there were textbooks and a hammer, some carried kitchen axes, because such objects could be carried anywhere. We took care of our own safety, united in squads and patrolled our areas. If your area is controlled by squads with objects that can easily break a skull, then even bandits with weapons will not want to visit you.
You should think about how to take care of your own safety, and you will have a huge decrease in crime once you fight back and other people know about it.

[Outhue]

FP91G, I am from Nigeria and security is a big mess here, to get a licensed gun over here is like almost impossible, unless you have connection with high class people or you are a soldier or a cop. They won't allow people to own licensed gun and that's the biggest problem here.

Yet criminals have guns, same as the kidnappers and even small time criminals in the street, it's either they make local guns themselves or they get a gun somehow, criminals can shoot people here but can only face the law if they are caught. I've seen dogs fought off criminals with gun, some dogs are trained to aim for the hand, but I get you, it's a 50/50 chnace, if the criminal is careful they can take the dogs out on sight.

Sadly this is one of the nonsense that we have to deal with over here and the rulers don't care, they only know how to keep their families safe but not the citizens of the country.

I have not been to Nigeria but I have seen a similar situation. We went to school, in a bag there were textbooks and a hammer, some carried kitchen axes, because such objects could be carried anywhere. We took care of our own safety, united in squads and patrolled our areas. If your area is controlled by squads with objects that can easily break a skull, then even bandits with weapons will not want to visit you.
You should think about how to take care of your own safety, and you will have a huge decrease in crime once you fight back and other people know about it.

Makes sense, since no one is allowed to carry gun in your country, if no one can carry guns around here illegally it would have been easier, even kick boxing and karate would get the job done. It is possible that my partner and I will move to our new house soon, we are already planning for safety and protection, dogs, electric fences and even house traps. Update on the stolen miners, nothing happened so far, the criminals are still at large, at this rate I don't believe that they will be caught and arrested anytime soon because of less technology equipment in the hands of the forces, fingers crossed for now.

[FP91G]

FP91G, I am from Nigeria and security is a big mess here, to get a licensed gun over here is like almost impossible, unless you have connection with high class people or you are a soldier or a cop. They won't allow people to own licensed gun and that's the biggest problem here.

Yet criminals have guns, same as the kidnappers and even small time criminals in the street, it's either they make local guns themselves or they get a gun somehow, criminals can shoot people here but can only face the law if they are caught. I've seen dogs fought off criminals with gun, some dogs are trained to aim for the hand, but I get you, it's a 50/50 chnace, if the criminal is careful they can take the dogs out on sight.

Sadly this is one of the nonsense that we have to deal with over here and the rulers don't care, they only know how to keep their families safe but not the citizens of the country.

I have not been to Nigeria but I have seen a similar situation. We went to school, in a bag there were textbooks and a hammer, some carried kitchen axes, because such objects could be carried anywhere. We took care of our own safety, united in squads and patrolled our areas. If your area is controlled by squads with objects that can easily break a skull, then even bandits with weapons will not want to visit you.
You should think about how to take care of your own safety, and you will have a huge decrease in crime once you fight back and other people know about it.

Makes sense, since no one is allowed to carry gun in your country, if no one can carry guns around here illegally it would have been easier, even kick boxing and karate would get the job done. It is possible that my partner and I will move to our new house soon, we are already planning for safety and protection, dogs, electric fences and even house traps. Update on the stolen miners, nothing happened so far, the criminals are still at large, at this rate I don't believe that they will be caught and arrested anytime soon because of less technology equipment in the hands of the forces, fingers crossed for now.

Kickboxing or karate won't help you. My friend benefited from track and field, specifically his ability to run fast. After he kicked the thug in the face and ran 15 meters away, the gunman couldn't hit him with his pistol anymore, having already wasted all his bullets. But this wasn't a planned attack, but a random street fight. If you're being attacked with weapons, not by idiots or drug addicts, but by an experienced team, then you'll need weapons.
I don't know about your situation with traps or electric fences, but if a neighbor's child accidentally falls into one, your neighbors will shoot you.