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September 10, 2025, 04:12:06 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

I agree that these four E's are some of the factors why people engage in gambling.

In a day of hard work and stress, and with the problem from work, people find gambling to unwind since they feel that it is effective in removing frustration and stress, they find themselves going back to gamble every day after work.

Those people who are so self-centered and only see material achievement as equally worth their value, by wanting to prove it, they see gambling as the easiest way to show their worth.  They think that it helped  them to create more self-value, but in reality, they are creating an unhealthy environment for themselves especially when their brain is stuck on this kind of stuff to prove their achievement.

and the other two have been discussed by many threads of this board.

In short, anything that went out of control in our gambling activity may end up in gambling addiction, so no matter what our purpose in engaging with gambling activity, we must make sure that we do it responsibly.

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September 10, 2025, 04:55:32 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
Sorry but I disgree, in all the four Es you mentioned and the explanation of what their true meaning is, I learnt that only one is correct, and that is "Excess", when people gamble excessively, they definitely end up getting addicted, this one is right but the others are simply wrong..

I will run through each of it again for you..
1. Escape - people finding escape from daily stress from work and others through gambling does not make them automatically addicted to gambling, especially when they are gambling responsibly, excessive or irresponsible gambling is what leads to addiction.
2. Esteem - I don't even understand how or what esteem got to do with gambling, but I know that finding value in winning from gambling and as well, material things does not automatically lead to gambling addiction.
3. Excitement - there is no way a person would get excited from gambling and do not know how to stop, it makes absolutely no sense, even if the person is excited for winning, the  winning streak doesn't last forever, loses will come and the excitement will fade away, this doesnt lead to addiction either, again, irresponsible and or excessive gambling is the only E here that surely leads to addiction.

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September 10, 2025, 05:13:13 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

The four Es you mentioned above really do makes sense to me because I also do engage in them and can see myself as a part of them. I will start with the escape part. Sometimes I just decide to gamble not because of the money I have or because of any other influences but simply because I want to just escape some stress especially when things around me seems a little more tough and overwhelming, I see gamble as a distraction to those things.

Secondly, I am someone that feels good whenever I gamble and win. I feel these esteem because sometimes gambling and winning especially when your friends argue about you not being able comes with a lot of excitement for me. It's like proving to them that yes I can do it even when you guys think I can't. It's a bit worrisome to me sometimes though cause I know the true measument of self worth does not rely on gambling and winning.

Thirdly, If there is anything that gets me scared of gambling most times is having a winning streak. It might sound weird to you but it is true. Once I start having a winning streak, it becomes difficult for me to stop. I begin to say let me try one more time again until I go against my gambling plans or target. This is the part I regard as the excess part.

And the last part for me is the excitement part. I think one of the things that make gambling easily becomes addictive is the adrenaline rush that comes with risking your funds and waiting to get the results. It gets your brain more addicted whenever the results come out positive because it's like waiting for a child delivery in the hospital and suddenly the doctor announces a positive result, you will shout in excitement and I feel like that's what gambling excitement and addiction comes with.

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September 10, 2025, 05:40:26 AM
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Based on the OP's post, we can conclude that every person who plays and loves gambling is about how close they are to gambling addiction. Those who seek recognition by winning must constantly confirm this, but they will not be able to win regularly, hence the need to repeat the feeling of victory. Those who play without controlling their funds will also end up with an empty wallet. Here, as in the first case, there will be a state of stress, from which the player also runs away in the need to repeat the game. Whatever one may say, all four features lead to stress and nothing more. Where is the feeling of entertainment? However, those who simply play from time to time, without spending everything to the last coin, and are in a mood that is not subject to rash actions, are not at risk of developing gambling addiction.

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September 10, 2025, 06:39:15 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

I think nowadays there is no one that has no stress in their daily lives as everything is more difficult than it was before, so everyone can be a target of these four things you mention here, I strongly believe the first one which is escape is the one who makes a lot of people from any background to flow to gambling. The other three then it is a natural flow I think once these people have come to gambling. It is very difficult to get out of something that makes your brain emit dopamine which make people feel very good about themselves. However as I said the main reason is the level of stress which should be fought by everyone to not come to gambling as an escape because once a gambler always a gambler.

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September 10, 2025, 06:43:26 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

I agree with the four Es, as they clearly explain the main reasons why people develop gambling addiction. However, I think factors like social environment and mental health are also important. How do you think we can help people avoid these traps?

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September 10, 2025, 06:45:12 AM
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It’s really the “excess” in the 4 Es that becomes the biggest culprit why we fall into addiction, and that excess itself is already equal to being addicted. I know this from my own experience since I was once addicted. Once you start gambling excessively, you’re already prone to becoming an addict.

That’s why there’s always the saying “gamble what you can afford to lose,” but the problem is some of us just know that phrase, we don’t really absorb it in our mind and heart. What I have now is “C” - control. And with that, my life is definitely better.

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September 10, 2025, 06:51:32 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
Are you trying to tell me that everyone who uses gambling as means of easing themselves from work stress and spending time with friends by gambling in the casinos are all going to be addicted? Sometimes you guys paint gambling as a death sentence and makes it look scary and it's not good. And it's possible most of the people that talks more about gambling addiction don't gamble that much, because if they do, they will understand that addiction don't just happen unless you give room to it before it happens to you.


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September 10, 2025, 07:27:32 AM
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Yes, I agree with your opinion about the 4 E's. I am a gambler who previously became addicted through a scenario (escape). When I was having a lot of personal problems, I accidentally saw a gambling promotion on social media and unexpectedly won big. My psychological state began to improve because I had the money, but that was the beginning of bigger problems.
I experienced financial problems, and I could barely make ends meet due to aggressive gambling, driven by the desire to win like before. But fortunately, a few months ago, I recovered because I had many new activities.
In conclusion, never use gambling as an escape, no matter how serious your personal problems.

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September 10, 2025, 07:33:37 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
Yeah man those es you mentioned hit really hard because they reflect how gambling isn’t really about the game itself but what people are trying to get out of it and if you look around in any casino or even online you can almost see each of those traits playing out in different people some are clearly running away from problems some are puffing up their self worth with a win some can’t stop once they start and some just live for the thrill it creates a cycle that’s really hard to break, and on top of that when you mix in my version like entitlement or envy it gets even more toxic because people start to think the world owes them luck or they’re constantly comparing their wins and losses to others which only fuels frustration and more reckless bets that sense of emptiness is another dangerous one too because if gambling becomes the only thing filling that gap then nothing else feels enough and chasing euphoria is basically running on a treadmill it feels great in the moment but it never lasts and people end up stuck trying to get that feeling again.

All in all whether it’s your four es or mine they really show how gambling addiction isn’t just about money it’s deeply tied to psychology and emotion and that’s what makes it so tricky to deal with.

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September 10, 2025, 07:56:26 AM
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That's good one with the definition of four es' about gambling. We can really create these things about gambling if we want to. Gambler's mind are brilliant and so, all of these whether good or bad effects and meanings about gambling. We can make all all of them.

esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
It also boosts our self esteem when we're winning. We think that we're lucky and no one can stop us, this gives us the emotional idea that we should be at the top of world and no one can stop us until we start falling.


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September 10, 2025, 07:58:25 AM
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One leads to the other is what I feel. Escape leads to Excitement which leads to excess while esteem is working parallel.

Certain people are there who are not happy with what they are doing. They would try to escape the reality through drugs, alcohol and gambling. All are bad for the person and this needs to be corrected at a root level. Find out what you enjoy in life and pursue that even if as a hobby.

Always be content with the money you have, trying to risk it leads to losses of what you already have.

 
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The one that I think is most related to problem gambling is esteem.

But the proper one that makes most addicts to become addicted is because of the way they are looking for money through gambling. Yes, they want to use gambling to make money and the addiction will gradually starts from using high amount of money to using all the money they have.

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September 10, 2025, 08:12:37 AM
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This interpretation of the 4 E closely reflects my own thinking. I'd say it could be universally true, but in reality, there are many other interpretations of why people become addicted.
Addiction—no point beating around the bush—is an illness. It's no coincidence that there are many centers that help you overcome addiction. It's a psychological illness, of course, but it must be treated with care. You can recover, but the willpower must come firsthand, otherwise it's just a waste of time.
Disappointment could also lead you to addiction.

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How about an "A"? Abuse.

I do agree with all your points, and to sum it up, everything that is abused is not good for our health and wealth. Drug addiction, alcoholism, and Gambling Addiction. All those are vices that can be controlled. A man can drink once a week and it won't hurt his health because there's time for the body to heal. A man uses drugs for medicine, and given time, it will also heal after usage.
The same goes for gambling. If we use it as a means to be entertained, then I don't think we will end up addicted. It's the abuse or the excess(ive) use in your term.

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September 10, 2025, 10:02:45 AM
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I agree with what @Fivestar4everMVP said, nowadays we all have problems, even those billionaires have problems and most of the time they have to deal with serious problems, nowadays most people want to do something to escape the problems they have. But we are not seeing 100% of the world population being addicted to drugs, alcohol or gambling and why are we not seeing this?

Because most of the world's population is not overdoing it with alcohol consumption or gambling, only a small portion of people are overdoing it and as a consequence are addicted. Therefore, the only way someone can become addicted to something is if they overdo it. You can have problems at work now, come home at night and play at a casino for just 1 hour and then watch TV, talk with your family, and tomorrow go to work very relaxed and when you come back go out with your family and don't gamble at all. This way, the person would never become addicted to gambling, they would always be gambling without problems.

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September 10, 2025, 10:11:25 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

Making sense, the four Es are confidential factors that determines the reasons why an individual tends to gamble and the meaning from what you have identified so far varies between person's. For escape; most people go into gambling cause they try to escape poverty and the feel gambling is the way out following some testimonies of how people cash out and cause the have brought their esteem so high to win they get excessive loses that slowly leads to addiction.

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September 10, 2025, 10:14:59 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

It's funny how people pick gambling as a source of their escape, it would had more to the stress in no time because money is involved, if you risk too much you can die from high blood pressure lol, this is a wrong pick as a means of escaping stress.

I am a bit confused about the esteem part, what does materialistic things have to do with gambling? It's not as if you will win more when gambling anyway, most of the time you lose and when you win you can use your money to do whatever you want even if you have to use it all to drink alcohol.

Wasting too much time on gambling will drawn you into the danger deeps, the more time you spent the more likely you become a addicted gambler, smaller time are the best.

The excitement part don't just happen like that, if gamblers keep losing there will be no excitement on their faces but only anger, and if somehow they start winning over and over they will find it harder to stop, until the lose everything and back to where they began.

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September 10, 2025, 10:21:08 AM
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I get it, "the big 1 A" is addiction and I tend to agree on that but I think it's still on someone else's shoes if he will fight on it or try to moderate his habit. There are too many things to make your addiction worth it but for me gambling is should be having one E and that's excitement. I'm competitive when it comes to it but I know my limits especially if money is at stake, I definitely moderate it.

 
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