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September 11, 2025, 12:57:22 AM |
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I agree. Now, it all depends on how one handles each one of them. Escape, for example, doesn't have to be in gambling. There are a hundred other choices. There are books, all kinds of games, friends, food, travel, movies, and so on.
However, if I may add, albeit not another E, there's poverty. This is at least given my country's context. Many people here gamble not to escape or be excited about something but to make money. That's why in an ordinary community's gambling scene, the level of tension and toxicity are high. Especially when it comes to lottery, people bet despite only having a little money because it gives them hope of a better life.
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maydna
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September 11, 2025, 01:44:13 AM |
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I agree with you @OP. The first thing perhaps is escaping from all things you do that you feel are boring. You want to leave all for a while so you're playing gambling. Once you get fun into gambling, you want to get more and it makes you keep playing.
When you win, you feel different and very lucky so you want to play for more. But the next rounds will not be the same as the previous so that makes you curious and continue playing gambling.
Finally, you will be playing gambling excessively because you feel curious. Whether you win or lose, you are still playing gambling and do not care about other things.
Once you get all of those things, the addiction happens to you without you realizing it.
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September 11, 2025, 05:07:50 AM |
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.
escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no? Actually from the 4 Es contributing to Gambling addiction from the link you shared I don't understand anything there sincerely but with the way you explained this 4 Es I am convinced that all 4 contribute to gamble addiction. Which are : 1. Escape 2. Esteem 3. Excess 4. Excitement One thing or the other must surely make a person get addicted to Gambling, and looking at all this four options listed above and explanation shows that they well contribute to Gambling addiction no doubt about it.
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September 11, 2025, 05:31:54 AM |
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.
escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no? I think nowadays there is no one that has no stress in their daily lives as everything is more difficult than it was before, so everyone can be a target of these four things you mention here, I strongly believe the first one which is escape is the one who makes a lot of people from any background to flow to gambling. The other three then it is a natural flow I think once these people have come to gambling. It is very difficult to get out of something that makes your brain emit dopamine which make people feel very good about themselves. However as I said the main reason is the level of stress which should be fought by everyone to not come to gambling as an escape because once a gambler always a gambler. If I agree with the OP about the other meanings of E that he mentioned I cannot agree that excitement in gambling can lead to addiction, if it does that means that anything can lead to gambling addiction. Excitement in gambling is the same thing as having fun in gambling, even as a responsible gambler if you don't feel excitement in it that means that it's not worth doing. If you enjoy gambling and do it responsibly there is no way you can come close to being addicted. Gamblers who don't get excited in it are probably the ones that sees it as a business, they do it not for fun but solely to make money which I don't recommend.
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September 11, 2025, 05:36:35 AM |
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
Yes, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. Everything will only become an addiction when you do it excessively. Something excessive definitely goes beyond your control. This is not good for gamblers who can indeed lead to addiction. We will be good gamblers when we can control and know our own limits. No one else can do it, only we ourselves can do it. So if there is a gambler who is addicted, then that is a form of the gambler's own mistake.
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September 11, 2025, 05:37:23 AM |
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
Yup I agree 100% all those things have happened to many gamblers, including me. I used to gamble because I loved the excitement of winning and even just playing. But I ended up regretting it, especially when I realized how much money I had lost. Sometimes, I spent so much that I didn’t even keep track of the total losses but things different now.
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September 11, 2025, 06:28:47 AM |
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens I personally haven't found escape from stress in gambling. I was never really stressed out. Gambling is fun to me, but I have never used gambling to relieve stress. I also don't find spending money as relaxing or stress relieving.  I can partially agree that people, who are materialistic have a bigger chance of becoming addicted to gambling. I'm not the most materialistic person in the world, so maybe this is one of the reason I'm still not addicted to gambling. I don't agree with the excessive gambling thing. I can gamble excessively, but I don't think that this would make me addicted. Moderate gamblers, who gamble excessively probably aren't that vulnerable to addiction. The risk taking and high staking gamblers are more vulnerable to addiction.
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September 11, 2025, 06:57:14 AM |
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens
this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I agree that these four E's are some of the factors why people engage in gambling. In a day of hard work and stress, and with the problem from work, people find gambling to unwind since they feel that it is effective in removing frustration and stress, they find themselves going back to gamble every day after work. Those people who are so self-centered and only see material achievement as equally worth their value, by wanting to prove it, they see gambling as the easiest way to show their worth. They think that it helped them to create more self-value, but in reality, they are creating an unhealthy environment for themselves especially when their brain is stuck on this kind of stuff to prove their achievement. and the other two have been discussed by many threads of this board. In short, anything that went out of control in our gambling activity may end up in gambling addiction, so no matter what our purpose in engaging with gambling activity, we must make sure that we do it responsibly. I agree that the real issue is one of self-control. If an individual relies on gambling as an escape or a way to boost their self-worth, then the attitude and practice becomes habitual and harder to break. Eventually, it's not about winning or losing anymore but a case of the mind having conditioned itself to always seek the same type of high. That is why it is important to generate awareness in the initial phases and realize that there are many healthier alternatives to look for relief or approval and not gamble as the sole option each time pressure or stress occurs.
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September 11, 2025, 07:03:02 AM |
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens
this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I agree that these four E's are some of the factors why people engage in gambling. In a day of hard work and stress, and with the problem from work, people find gambling to unwind since they feel that it is effective in removing frustration and stress, they find themselves going back to gamble every day after work. Those people who are so self-centered and only see material achievement as equally worth their value, by wanting to prove it, they see gambling as the easiest way to show their worth. They think that it helped them to create more self-value, but in reality, they are creating an unhealthy environment for themselves especially when their brain is stuck on this kind of stuff to prove their achievement. and the other two have been discussed by many threads of this board. In short, anything that went out of control in our gambling activity may end up in gambling addiction, so no matter what our purpose in engaging with gambling activity, we must make sure that we do it responsibly. I agree that the real issue is one of self-control. If an individual relies on gambling as an escape or a way to boost their self-worth, then the attitude and practice becomes habitual and harder to break. Eventually, it's not about winning or losing anymore but a case of the mind having conditioned itself to always seek the same type of high. That is why it is important to generate awareness in the initial phases and realize that there are many healthier alternatives to look for relief or approval and not gamble as the sole option each time pressure or stress occurs. The four ES framework really exposes how gambling addiction builds itself step by step because at first a person does not even realize they are falling into a trap escape feels harmless esteem feels motivating excess feels like just pushing limits and excitement feels like fun but together they create a cycle that can swallow years of someone’s life.Escape is especially dangerous because life problems do not stop coming bills debts work issues family stress if gambling becomes the escape route it only multiplies those problems in the long run esteem feeds on ego and social pressure when someone equates wins and material success with their value as a person they lose sight of their true worth and end up chasing validation through bets rather than through real growth. Excess is what turns a casual habit into obsession once limits disappear the person no longer treats gambling as entertainment but as a daily need and that is where financial ruin often begins excitement then becomes the fuel it rewires the brain to crave the thrill of risk and reward more than any ordinary joy soon even big wins are not enough to satisfy that hunger. Understanding these four es can help people notice early warning signs and build awareness if someone realizes they are gambling not for fun but for escape esteem excess or excitement it is the right time to step back and seek balance because addiction is not just about losing money it is about losing time energy relationships and eventually your sense of self.
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Yes, I agree with your breakdown of the four Es. Each one escape, esteem, excess, and excitement captures a psychological trigger that can lead people toward problem gambling. In my opinion, what makes this framework powerful is how it shows that addiction doesnt come from just one cause but from a mix of emotional needs and behaviors. The overlap of these factors makes gambling especially risky, and recognizing them early can be a big step toward prevention. The excess is the most important one as it caters the need of anyone who are deep in gambling.
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September 11, 2025, 07:24:49 AM |
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.
escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no? This four Es you mentioned really makes sense to me and I totally agree with you, but shouldn't it be four Es and an A? A should stand for abuse, the four Es all lead to Abuse and when you abuse gambling then it becomes an addiction and that is also a problem. Gamblers really need to recognize these four Es and an A pattern in themselves before it gets out of hand, these four Es fuels a pattern that turns into an A (Abuse) and it turns your normal behavior to a serious problem (addiction) the simple way to stop yourself from slipping into gambling addiction is by understanding these factors and recognizing it in yourself and knowing how to manage them by taking a step backwards.
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I’ve never heard about the four Es but it seems like someone put some effort into putting them together. I’m not really sure what to do with that information, but maybe it could be useful for someone developing their own casino game or something. Maybe it could be useful to recognize your own gambling habits and address any issues.
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September 12, 2025, 03:44:24 PM |
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There's an overall influence altogether,the Four E’s interact in ways that make gambling attractive and exciting.For example,Excitement hooks people,Entertainment keeps it steady,escape makes it an emotional ladder to lean on and esteem keeps them chasing more wins.This combination has trapped so many gamblers in a cycle that’s hard for them to break out.
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September 12, 2025, 03:55:08 PM |
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
Everyone does escapism everyday. It's healthy and necessarity to cope with the stress of daily life. People do this through different means, like watching movies, playing videogames, while others prefer to gamble. The point is that if this escapism is being done in a functional or disfunctional way. Is it being excessive, is it leading to addiction? In positive case, then there is a big issue on how escapism is being practiced, so further investigation is needed to find out what is behind this behavioral pattern. It can be that escapism is being used to cope with past traumas and aversive thoughts the individual tries to avoid coming into his conscience. So, in order to avoid such thoughts he ends supressing conscious states of mind through escapism.
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September 12, 2025, 09:25:36 PM |
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.
escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no? Bullshit. It is reasons but result. In such way we can convert any problem to addiction improvement. He was hungry - he began gamble. I have enough stress, i play slots to relax. I like betting, i bet when i have opportunity for analyze. If we believe the OP - i`m addict. All these research - bullshit. You don`t need to justify gambling addict. He is addict. That`s all. The main part of gamblers, more than 90% don`t care about it. They play when they want, they lose money as they want, they stop the game when they want. The problem of gambling addicts - just a hype.
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September 12, 2025, 09:44:56 PM |
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esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
All your other points depends on individual, how they perceive and make choices when it comes to gambling to them. Esteem happens to be the most reason more likely leading to addiction. The fact that you’re attracted to materialistic things and want to use gambling wins to satisfy your desires, you’ll end up not adhering to proper risk management. And when you’ve lost it all, you’ll still come back and want to chase your loss and that immediately begins to fuel your addiction to gambling.
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September 12, 2025, 10:27:33 PM |
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With all of the four es that you've come up with about gambling ends up about gambling as an entertainment. It's good that you've made some of these meanings and have distinguished the reasons why you have made them. It's important to know that we become excited when we gamble and treats it as well as an escape whenever we can.
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September 12, 2025, 10:43:20 PM |
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All your other points depends on individual, how they perceive and make choices when it comes to gambling to them. Esteem happens to be the most reason more likely leading to addiction. The fact that you’re attracted to materialistic things and want to use gambling wins to satisfy your desires, you’ll end up not adhering to proper risk management. And when you’ve lost it all, you’ll still come back and want to chase your loss and that immediately begins to fuel your addiction to gambling.
Gambling is only an added avenue to expose how humans think over money and material things. If players could get addicted to an activity because it promises to offer huge money and better lifes, this shows how most people would go any length for a luxurious life. The casino knows this and make profits out of the greedy players.
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September 12, 2025, 11:47:47 PM |
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All your other points depends on individual, how they perceive and make choices when it comes to gambling to them. Esteem happens to be the most reason more likely leading to addiction. The fact that you’re attracted to materialistic things and want to use gambling wins to satisfy your desires, you’ll end up not adhering to proper risk management. And when you’ve lost it all, you’ll still come back and want to chase your loss and that immediately begins to fuel your addiction to gambling.
Gambling is only an added avenue to expose how humans think over money and material things. If players could get addicted to an activity because it promises to offer huge money and better lifes, this shows how most people would go any length for a luxurious life. The casino knows this and make profits out of the greedy players. Yeah, the major reasons people actually fall into the trap of the demon who is faking the better luxurious lifestyle you could get it you listen to him and do his work, the devil is very tricky and knows how to get his people on earth to undergo his assignment, these people are not contented with what they have but keeps on doing more and getting into more luxurious lifestyle to impress the society.
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September 12, 2025, 11:51:12 PM Last edit: September 15, 2025, 06:03:35 PM by AmoreJaz |
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All your other points depends on individual, how they perceive and make choices when it comes to gambling to them. Esteem happens to be the most reason more likely leading to addiction. The fact that you’re attracted to materialistic things and want to use gambling wins to satisfy your desires, you’ll end up not adhering to proper risk management. And when you’ve lost it all, you’ll still come back and want to chase your loss and that immediately begins to fuel your addiction to gambling.
Gambling is only an added avenue to expose how humans think over money and material things. If players could get addicted to an activity because it promises to offer huge money and better lifes, this shows how most people would go any length for a luxurious life. The casino knows this and make profits out of the greedy players. That's innate to humans so you can expect that a lot of people will have that kind of mentality so to speak. So it is on your own prerogative how will you handle your gambling activities. Because it is too easy to fall on this trap, especially when you feel you are on the edge of winning big. If you will try to talk to any gambler, most of them have similar experiences as they aim to hit big. However, the reality will tell them that very few can earn success on this activity. Most will go to the bankruptcy stage if they can't handle their gambling activities appropriately.
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