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September 13, 2025, 12:26:23 AM
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With all of the four es that you've come up with about gambling ends up about gambling as an entertainment.
It's good that you've made some of these meanings and have distinguished the reasons why you have made them.
It's important to know that we become excited when we gamble and treats it as well as an escape whenever we can.
Not very many gamblers treat gambling as an escape from what ever, many of gamblers treat gambling as a very serious business and a source of income, this set of people may have as well been able to find out ways one can at least, close to consistently make money from gambling, but in all, it's always better for gamblers to know exactly what and why th3y choose to gamble and then make sure they are doing it responsibly..

And speaking of excitement, it's good to be excited and always on a good mood, but too much of excitement can sometimes lead to negative situations like addiction to gambling, gambling and losing money that initially the gambler didn't plan or intend to gamble with, this may never have happened to me but I've seen quite a number of persons who found their self in situations like this as a result of over excitement and or over confidence as well.

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September 13, 2025, 10:46:34 PM
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With all of the four es that you've come up with about gambling ends up about gambling as an entertainment.
It's good that you've made some of these meanings and have distinguished the reasons why you have made them.
It's important to know that we become excited when we gamble and treats it as well as an escape whenever we can.
Not very many gamblers treat gambling as an escape from what ever, many of gamblers treat gambling as a very serious business and a source of income, this set of people may have as well been able to find out ways one can at least, close to consistently make money from gambling, but in all, it's always better for gamblers to know exactly what and why th3y choose to gamble and then make sure they are doing it responsibly..

And speaking of excitement, it's good to be excited and always on a good mood, but too much of excitement can sometimes lead to negative situations like addiction to gambling, gambling and losing money that initially the gambler didn't plan or intend to gamble with, this may never have happened to me but I've seen quite a number of persons who found their self in situations like this as a result of over excitement and or over confidence as well.
I agree that there are gamblers who doesn't treat it as an escape but treats more of a business and source of income.
We know that already long time ago and that's why they can treat it as an escape whenever they can because that's how it will be.
And being overexcited to gambling sometimes can put us in harm, so at the end of the day we still need to be in control.

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September 14, 2025, 11:55:22 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens
You just broke down every niche that erupts the habit of gambling... You're right for this, but there's nothing else one can do to stop any of these as long as they keep gambling; they can only control how much of everything they find themselves doing in the casino, but they can't just gamble without a purpose.

Overall, it's best that we understand the implications of going too far, and how heavy the price to pay is.. If it begins to get ugly, quit and replace it with something more soothing.

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September 14, 2025, 12:12:37 PM
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Understanding all the Es as mentioned by OP. It all happens because we don't have control over ourselves. And it was not just that. We have greed that brings us into addiction. Even if we understand all these things, I know we can't escape from this due to its temptation. That is why, as we gamble, we also adhere to the fact that there will be bad things happening to us. The best thing we can do is not take gambling seriously because that is the reason why we fall into these E's. Let us just consider gambling as an entertainment where there is an urge to do it.

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September 14, 2025, 09:15:28 PM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
Sorry but I disgree, in all the four Es you mentioned and the explanation of what their true meaning is, I learnt that only one is correct, and that is "Excess", when people gamble excessively, they definitely end up getting addicted, this one is right but the others are simply wrong..

I will run through each of it again for you..
1. Escape - people finding escape from daily stress from work and others through gambling does not make them automatically addicted to gambling, especially when they are gambling responsibly, excessive or irresponsible gambling is what leads to addiction.
2. Esteem - I don't even understand how or what esteem got to do with gambling, but I know that finding value in winning from gambling and as well, material things does not automatically lead to gambling addiction.
3. Excitement - there is no way a person would get excited from gambling and do not know how to stop, it makes absolutely no sense, even if the person is excited for winning, the  winning streak doesn't last forever, loses will come and the excitement will fade away, this doesnt lead to addiction either, again, irresponsible and or excessive gambling is the only E here that surely leads to addiction.

Think critically about that point he made about escape,..even though it doesn't make make them addicted automatically it can start gradually....remember that an habit is not developed in a day but it take a lot of time before it becomes a dependency issue..when gambling is used as an escape just like a drug it's done so they can distract their mind either from depression or stress but based on the fact that it's temporal this makes them repeating the cycle

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September 14, 2025, 09:28:21 PM
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Understanding all the Es as mentioned by OP. It all happens because we don't have control over ourselves. And it was not just that. We have greed that brings us into addiction. Even if we understand all these things, I know we can't escape from this due to its temptation. That is why, as we gamble, we also adhere to the fact that there will be bad things happening to us. The best thing we can do is not take gambling seriously because that is the reason why we fall into these E's. Let us just consider gambling as an entertainment where there is an urge to do it.
And does it mean you don't know that people can still get addicted to gambling even though they can gambling as a means of entertainment as well?
Being a greedy person as a gambler simply means you are never satisfied no matter how much you win, and like you said, this can lead one to becoming a gambling addict, we know this but you saying we can not over come this due to its temptation is a lie, falling into any temptation is always a choice we make ourselves though sometimes and under some certain type of circumstances, choosing otherwise may be very difficult, but still having a choice is simply having a choice.

Getting addicted to gambling is a choice we make ourselves either directly or indirectly, we know the rules of gambling and know how to gamble so we don't become addicted, if with this knowledge, a person still ends up as a gambling addict, would you say it wasn't his choice? Of course we can over come temptation when and if we choose to over come it, especially when it has to do with gambling.

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September 14, 2025, 09:55:32 PM
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Getting addicted to gambling is a choice we make ourselves either directly or indirectly, we know the rules of gambling and know how to gamble so we don't become addicted, if with this knowledge, a person still ends up as a gambling addict, would you say it wasn't his choice? Of course we can over come temptation when and if we choose to over come it, especially when it has to do with gambling.

It's harder to overcome temptation as well as gambling addiction, if you've been addicted to something you'll know the struggles that comes with overcoming what has been embedded inside of you for long time. A gambler will still know the rules and regulations of casino platform and still fail them because the urge is greater than the knowledge.

It's the choice of a gambler to stop immediately when he has failed to stop many times, a gambler doesn't stop in one day, it takes many trials and many tribulations to put an end to it.


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I will agree mostly with the concept of excitement because indeed that is the experience of some persons of which I happen to witness it at a time,indeed people does get excited and know not when to stop because for them they can continue winning and so if they have to keep winning they have to keep playing meanwhile they forget that they only will be able  to achieve that of they are disciplined enough  to control themselves, the excitement they get from a few wins can be push to further engage and end up meeting your doom at times.

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September 14, 2025, 10:21:16 PM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I think the most important factor in gambling addiction is Excessive emotions and excitement. A person becomes addicted to gambling due to excessive gambling and the desire to get extra money. Those who do not gamble due to excessive emotions and the desire to get extra money they are not addicted to gambling can always gamble responsibly and accept gambling responsibly, but those who gamble irresponsibly and are greedy for making a lot of money from gambling quickly become addicted to gambling.

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Understanding all the Es as mentioned by OP. It all happens because we don't have control over ourselves. And it was not just that. We have greed that brings us into addiction. Even if we understand all these things, I know we can't escape from this due to its temptation. That is why, as we gamble, we also adhere to the fact that there will be bad things happening to us. The best thing we can do is not take gambling seriously because that is the reason why we fall into these E's. Let us just consider gambling as an entertainment where there is an urge to do it.

I think that is part of gambling itself, we can't mentioned gambling in terms of losing without involving our emotions. And it's part of us being human, we have emotions and feelings and not all of them feeling are good.

Like you mentioned in greed, we can't be satisfied of our winnings. There are times that we have won decent money and yet we don't want to quit or we don't have control of ourselves as we keep on betting. But the bad thing is that when things goes sour, we started to lose until such time that everything is gone.

Maybe if we consider it entertain then we might satisfied. But admit it or not, most of us want to win money.


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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I think the most important factor in gambling addiction is Excessive emotions and excitement. A person becomes addicted to gambling due to excessive gambling and the desire to get extra money. Those who do not gamble due to excessive emotions and the desire to get extra money they are not addicted to gambling can always gamble responsibly and accept gambling responsibly, but those who gamble irresponsibly and are greedy for making a lot of money from gambling quickly become addicted to gambling.
The four E's give a strong framework to understand gambling addiction because they show how different sides of human behavior get tangled with the game escape is the first one and it is dangerous because it tricks people into believing that gambling can wash away stress sadness or even loneliness but the truth is the problems only wait for them when they step away from the table esteem comes next and this one is subtle because it pushes people to tie their self worth to the outcome of a spin or a card game when a win comes they feel on top of the world when a loss hits they feel crushed and try to chase another win just to feel valuable again.

Then comes excess and this is the part where habits turn into obsession it is not just playing once in a while it becomes a routine a pattern that eats into time money and relationships excess is what turns gambling into a lifestyle instead of an occasional activity and finally excitement which on the surface looks harmless because everyone loves thrill but when excitement becomes the only fuel it blinds people from seeing how far they have gone they forget about limits they forget about balance. All of these combined make addiction stronger than just one trait alone escape can lead to excess esteem can be tied with excitement and once these overlap the person feels trapped they are not just gambling for fun anymore they are gambling because their emotions and their identity depend on it this is why education self awareness and setting hard limits are so important without them the four Es easily lead to a cycle that is hard to break.

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September 17, 2025, 11:03:06 AM
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The concept is quite interesting, and it is part of some of the gamblers' goals in starting the game. To be honest, it is still lacking when we look at the whole picture, but this 4 E theory is indeed worth mentioning.

And it's all about psychology, where you will inevitably experience psychological motivations within yourself that lead you to decide to gamble. All of that won't be a problem for you as long as you have limits in your gambling, both in terms of time and, especially, money. Setting limits on your gambling is crucial.

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September 17, 2025, 11:04:05 AM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

And a solution letter D can be applied as a rescue way form all the challenges, which is Discipline, a gambler that understands how to behave and discipline himself in gambling will always make the right choices in it, he wont overdo or take actions in a wrong approach, even though its lots of excitements that we have in it, we still also have to remember that the way we behave our normal days life also have something to do with how we gamble, because either directly or indirectly, it will reflect and that also can constitute to what we get into gambling from our behaviours.

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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

Yes, I agree and this make a lot of sense... I just want to add that they are unlikely to appear on isolation at gamblers, like... those seeking an escape end up engaging on excess or getting carried away by excitement. There are several factors that is closely interconnected, and one will always "feed" the other and making addiction a very strong cycle of dependence... I think that is why its so difficult to cure.

And you see... these characteristics are not an exclusive to gambling, but rather a pattern found in any other addiction, and I think that's good because it allows it to be treated by any professional... it doesnt need to be a psychologist specializing at gambling addiction, right?

Anyway... a known problem and an addiction like any other... it has its particularities, but it is treatable like any other... just require dedication from those who want to break free and the guidance of a good professional.

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Well, I still wish to still point out individual difference in people, while this can co-relates very well with so many gamblers, it doesn't have that same effect on other people. You can agree with me that there are so many gamblers that are not gambling for escape of stress, they are boldly gambling to obtain financial freedom through gambling and some persons too doesn't want to take any chance of being addicted so they don't neglect any symptoms. The four Es can really be effective on many gamblers because if neglected, can cause the gambling problems that we do talk about.

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September 17, 2025, 12:48:42 PM
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Well, I still wish to still point out individual difference in people, while this can co-relates very well with so many gamblers, it doesn't have that same effect on other people. You can agree with me that there are so many gamblers that are not gambling for escape of stress, they are boldly gambling to obtain financial freedom through gambling and some persons too doesn't want to take any chance of being addicted so they don't neglect any symptoms. The four Es can really be effective on many gamblers because if neglected, can cause the gambling problems that we do talk about.

We all have one or two reasons to why we are gambling, and that is where the aspect of individual difference being mentioned comes in, some will do the same thing others do and regret it, while in some cases, it may be a scale through for others, we should not always compare ourselves with others, because that may be their own gambling habit and we don't know how they are faring in managing up with themselves with that, so that we don't lead ourselves into something else by trying to please, imitate or use a particular approach to gambling from what others are also using.

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September 17, 2025, 01:25:14 PM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

It is true that there is a risk of losing money through gambling. Gambling is basically about making money for entertainment or getting rich quick, gambling is not at all right, which increases the risk of losing money. I think gambling is not right for everyone, basically only those who have a reasonable income should play, Gambling should be done with money that you can afford to lose and that will not cause you any financial problems in the future, so that you do not put any financial pressure on yourself. If someone gambles according to the right rules, then they have self-control over themselves and the risk of losing money can be reduced to a large extent. Greed blinds people and they do not understand what is right, so it is possible to reduce the risk by managing gambling by controlling emotions and greed.

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The concept is quite interesting, and it is part of some of the gamblers' goals in starting the game. To be honest, it is still lacking when we look at the whole picture, but this 4 E theory is indeed worth mentioning.

And it's all about psychology, where you will inevitably experience psychological motivations within yourself that lead you to decide to gamble. All of that won't be a problem for you as long as you have limits in your gambling, both in terms of time and, especially, money. Setting limits on your gambling is crucial.

Limits are very important when it comes to gambling to avoid spending too much. OP did good at pointing out those E's, and it might help a gambler learn from those things that were said.

Getting too excited could really be a big trouble for us. Honestly, I am one who got caught by that kind of trap. I won big multipliers playing slots, and then suddenly I won't win anything anymore. That's me getting excited that I might hit another big multiplier but the truth is, I just got lucky and there's a chance it won't happen again for a very long time.

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Wow, this makes lots of sense. The four Es has the major psychological angles which can make fun play to problem gambling. Escape and esteem shows the deeper needs emotionally, then excess and excitement explains patterns in behavior that get people stuck. All of them put together, describe the reason gambling addiction is about more than only money, and that it is linked to the way people cope, find validation and how to manage impulses.











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September 17, 2025, 10:04:24 PM
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Understanding all the Es as mentioned by OP. It all happens because we don't have control over ourselves. And it was not just that. We have greed that brings us into addiction. Even if we understand all these things, I know we can't escape from this due to its temptation. That is why, as we gamble, we also adhere to the fact that there will be bad things happening to us. The best thing we can do is not take gambling seriously because that is the reason why we fall into these E's. Let us just consider gambling as an entertainment where there is an urge to do it.
You don't mean that mate, not everyone lack the ability and power to control themselves while gambling most times what make it looks as if we lack the ability to control our gambling habit it the level at which we allow our greed to control our actions this is the main reason why it may look as if we are not in control of our gambling activities but some gamblers still have that ability.

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