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March 10, 2026, 04:25:50 AM
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escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
Absolutely 100% true. In fact, we usually want to gamble when we are stressed, bored, or when something in life is not going right. I think this is also the reason why children are at a higher risk of developing gambling addiction because they have lots of free time and stress from school/college life.

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esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
To be honest I'm not sure about this but perhaps true that one reason to gamble is obviously the hope of winning something massive.

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excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
That or when you have lost enough that leads to point no.1, that's stress because now you want to win everything back.

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excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop, and that's when addiction happens
I think it's basically having too much free time and nothing to do in simple words.

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March 10, 2026, 04:49:05 AM
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No wonder there are people with low self-esteem partaking on gambling because they view it as the only way for them to become winners, by hitting a jackpot.

It is a really sad situation of you think about it.
gambling makes us people happy so if a lonely person wants to get rid of that feeling of course they have to go where it is possible and that is in casinos they might feel like winners and may even be treated as vip guests even for just a few minutes
Yes, however, it will be just for a few hours or minutes of escape and after that you will be back to reality. However, who knows of what will be the outcome on their short stint on gambling. Maybe they can win big again and again and so it build their self-esteem. But if they lost, it might have a huge impact on mentality as we all know that losing in gambling is very painful and the mental strain it can give to us. So I guess who's willing to go and take the risk, either bare the pain, or feel invincible and proud of your self for just a couple of hours.

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March 10, 2026, 08:57:17 AM
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I agree that the four E factors you mentioned all lead to addiction. But actually, if there are limits, addiction will not occur, and these limits apply to all four factors, not just some of them.

That is why it is crucial to have strict limits when gambling, as addiction is not beneficial. It all depends on how we approach it taking risks or overdoing it significantly increases the likelihood of addiction.

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March 10, 2026, 12:30:40 PM
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~snip~

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I agree that the four E factors you mentioned all lead to addiction. But actually, if there are limits, addiction will not occur, and these limits apply to all four factors, not just some of them.

That is why it is crucial to have strict limits when gambling, as addiction is not beneficial. It all depends on how we approach it taking risks or overdoing it significantly increases the likelihood of addiction.
The importance of applying comprehensive limits to all the risk factors will mean that recreational activities do not turn out to be a liability. We must understand that we should only leave any loopholes so that we will speed up the process of developing a harmful and obsessive behaviour. We have a proper sense of logic when we keep a safe distance of all kinds of excessive involvement. Such precaution step teaches us to be more financially independent in future.


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March 10, 2026, 10:59:35 PM
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No wonder there are people with low self-esteem partaking on gambling because they view it as the only way for them to become winners, by hitting a jackpot.

It is a really sad situation of you think about it.
gambling makes us people happy so if a lonely person wants to get rid of that feeling of course they have to go where it is possible and that is in casinos they might feel like winners and may even be treated as vip guests even for just a few minutes
Yes, however, it will be just for a few hours or minutes of escape and after that you will be back to reality. However, who knows of what will be the outcome on their short stint on gambling. Maybe they can win big again and again and so it build their self-esteem. But if they lost, it might have a huge impact on mentality as we all know that losing in gambling is very painful and the mental strain it can give to us. So I guess who's willing to go and take the risk, either bare the pain, or feel invincible and proud of your self for just a couple of hours.
Perhaps it is just me, but anyone who is struggling mentally and needs some kind of escapism in order to keep their mind in place should not be recurrent gambler and try to escape reality with the help of randomness, casinos, bets and risking their own money.
There are other more healthy ways to escape reality for some hours, like playing videogames, learning some new skills (like drawing or speaking a new language). Ultimately gambling is supposed to be for mentally stable people who happen to have some spare money they would not miss in the slightest.

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March 11, 2026, 08:27:06 PM
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I think the excitement part is probably the biggest one for most players. When you finally hit a big win after a long losing streak the dopamine rush is crazy. I’ve seen the same thing with slots on crypto casinos lately, people keep chasing that one big multiplier.

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March 11, 2026, 08:36:05 PM
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Why not add some D-s to the equation when the gambling session ends for example and I would post something like that :

D1- Doomed meaning a person can lose it all while gambling removing all the E-s from the beginning of this thread, just some big loses and the person feels trapped in what seems as a never ending suffering.
D2- Despair meaning a person and this is what happen to the majority of people that lose in a consistent and continued way during their gambling inevitably feel some form of despair in their life.
D3- Devastating meaning a person can feel devastating consequences to their life, social and economic one, even families have been ruined and number of divorces has increased from this.
D4- Derailed just like that movie from 2005 with Clive Owen gambling can completely derail one life just because he was obsessed and felt joy with gambling in the first place.


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March 11, 2026, 08:46:10 PM
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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

It's broadly true that these are the main drivers behind gambling but to what end? You could substitute the world gambling above with any type of addiction, none of these seem particularly exclusive to betting. People fall into a pattern of addiction often out of boredom or chasing a high they had in their first go (which will never be reproducible again to the level of joy it gave them - which was often because of other circumstances like the environment or being surrounded by friends). Anyone can slip under the spell of these four E's by drinking, or drugs, some hobbies, or even things like "doom scrolling" often show the same sort of traits. This also isn't "your understanding" if someone else did the research, you copied the idea and are just pasting it over here.

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March 11, 2026, 08:50:48 PM
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I think the excitement part is probably the biggest one for most players. When you finally hit a big win after a long losing streak the dopamine rush is crazy. I’ve seen the same thing with slots on crypto casinos lately, people keep chasing that one big multiplier.
Well, I personally believe this is what every gambler out there are looking to achieve from gambling including those who are gambling for fun as well, just like I always say, there is absolutely no fun in losing money over and over and over and over again, especially when or if the money is one the gambler hustled really had to make, it won't be all that fun to lose it all to gambling in the name of gambling for fun..

So the win and the excitement is what every gambler out there long for and look forward to achieving, because in as much as we advise gamblers to treat gambling as a fun venture rather than a means of making money, I must emphasize on the fact that nothing is more exciting than hitting that big multiplier and having a few cents on a bet turned into multiple thousands dollars, this is how someone ended up killing himself due to over excitement after hitting such a big win 😂

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March 11, 2026, 10:38:13 PM
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I think the excitement part is probably the biggest one for most players. When you finally hit a big win after a long losing streak the dopamine rush is crazy. I’ve seen the same thing with slots on crypto casinos lately, people keep chasing that one big multiplier.
Well, I personally believe this is what every gambler out there are looking to achieve from gambling including those who are gambling for fun as well, just like I always say, there is absolutely no fun in losing money over and over and over and over again, especially when or if the money is one the gambler hustled really had to make, it won't be all that fun to lose it all to gambling in the name of gambling for fun..

So the win and the excitement is what every gambler out there long for and look forward to achieving, because in as much as we advise gamblers to treat gambling as a fun venture rather than a means of making money, I must emphasize on the fact that nothing is more exciting than hitting that big multiplier and having a few cents on a bet turned into multiple thousands dollars, this is how someone ended up killing himself due to over excitement after hitting such a big win 😂
Winning is sweet o. It's a feeling of excitement and accomplishment in some regards because it means all the money spent while having fun at gambling persay, wasn't just a waste.
This excitement often makes a gambler want to try some more. The discipline however to dissuade oneself from further rushed endeavor because of excitement is what separates those who are greedy and desperate from those who aren't.

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March 11, 2026, 11:06:33 PM
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

As I see it, based on what you've said, we could say that the four Es are actually a problem when excess is combined with the other three on the list, since those are very common reasons why people gamble, and it doesn't mean they're addicted or at risk of becoming addicted; it's simply the excess of everything that creates the problem. Even if we do it for fun, if there's excess, there will always be problems. You can gamble a little, but if when you do gamble you spend excessive amounts of money, there's also a problem. So, to put it better, those Es complement each other when it comes to creating problems.
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this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?
I agree that the four E factors you mentioned all lead to addiction. But actually, if there are limits, addiction will not occur, and these limits apply to all four factors, not just some of them.

That is why it is crucial to have strict limits when gambling, as addiction is not beneficial. It all depends on how we approach it taking risks or overdoing it significantly increases the likelihood of addiction.
The importance of applying comprehensive limits to all the risk factors will mean that recreational activities do not turn out to be a liability. We must understand that we should only leave any loopholes so that we will speed up the process of developing a harmful and obsessive behaviour. We have a proper sense of logic when we keep a safe distance of all kinds of excessive involvement. Such precaution step teaches us to be more financially independent in future.
Everything about gambling involves risk from trying to bet using your bankroll to stake bet to seeing cashout option for you to take partial profit and forget about the rest of the game to waiting for the overall result of your bet. This is not fun for gamblers to pass through all these process and not still making profits from gambling. There is a big and hidden risk in gambling but we may not understand and all we care about is to make profits from gambling without crucial observations.

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We can choose to call them anytime we like as long as we are going to enjoy gambling and do what is needed of Us, we can only help ourselves when we gamble and this has to come from the mentality we have towards it and how we try to avoid taking high risk it's time we play, if we are to be a successful Gambler and be proud in what we are doing, then we have to understand all the rudiments of what can aid to be success with gambling as we take more precautionary measures.

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I'd add that players are often drawn to seemingly paradoxical goals. For example, such a strange goal as "overcoming difficulties." Why do people enjoy solving puzzles, even when the solution doesn't bring them any material benefit? For precisely this reason. And if, in addition to the pleasure of overcoming challenges, success also brings material gain, that's even better and can quickly become addictive.

 
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March 17, 2026, 05:00:01 AM
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Agree or not, that will not be a problem but excessively will be a point that will makes you get problem gambling. You will not realize what happens to you so you keep gambling and excitement from gambling.

You thinks that you can have fun in gambling for more but that is a wrong decision. The more you gamble, the more you have the chance to get the problem so you need to control yourself avoiding the problem.

That is the thing avoiding the risks becomes big so we can enjoy gambling as entertainment. We don't gamble excessively as we know that will gives more risks.

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 I agree with you , because these Es is exactly why  most people become addicted to gambling, but if Anyone has a subconscious mind and be aware of  the risk that comes with it , it will enable them  to realize some unrealistic expectations and limit them from excessive of it , you see excitement that comes with winning lead most people to addiction, because they believe since they have won before , there is still more for them , unknowing for them they start  losing while chasing more win , taking so much risk , this is when addiction take place , before they could realize, it has gone deep in their head, over excitement has a big role to play in gambling addiction.

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Yes, however, it will be just for a few hours or minutes of escape and after that you will be back to reality. However, who knows of what will be the outcome on their short stint on gambling. Maybe they can win big again and again and so it build their self-esteem. But if they lost, it might have a huge impact on mentality as we all know that losing in gambling is very painful and the mental strain it can give to us. So I guess who's willing to go and take the risk, either bare the pain, or feel invincible and proud of your self for just a couple of hours.
That is how some gamblers do, they give themselves short break, in return to win again, which they are not sure if the outcome will be in their favour or not, because in gambling anything can happen and if care is not taken, one can make a decision that will not affected them positively but will brings in regrets and disappointment. Which is why its important for gamblers to ensure that their self discipline is intact to make sure that their emotions doesn't cloud their judgement.

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i found a research which identified four psychological traits contributing to risk for problem gambling. these are the four Es: escape, esteem, excess and excitement.

escape: when people try to find an escape from stress and all their other problems through gambling, more problem arises and addiction happens
esteem: when people try to find their value through materialistic things and wins in gambling, addiction happens
excess: when people gamble excessively, that is when addiction happens
and excitement: people get excitement from gambling and they no longer know how to stop and that's when addiction happens

this is my understanding of the four Es. do you agree or no?

Respect from other people is exactly what many people are looking for, and of course we will include the concept of self-respect here. Such guys build such a naive and fast earning scheme with their own heads, which does not tolerate any criticism. They think that such a plan to win money will certainly come true and they will be able to buy themselves things and status that will make other people respect them. Yes, you can buy a car and an apartment, but does that make the woman you love immediately fall on your neck? It's naive. Even if he does, it won't be sincere. Therefore, gambling cannot be considered as the primary means to gain respect from others.

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No wonder there are people with low self-esteem partaking on gambling because they view it as the only way for them to become winners, by hitting a jackpot.

It is a really sad situation of you think about it.
gambling makes us people happy so if a lonely person wants to get rid of that feeling of course they have to go where it is possible and that is in casinos they might feel like winners and may even be treated as vip guests even for just a few minutes
Yes, however, it will be just for a few hours or minutes of escape and after that you will be back to reality. However, who knows of what will be the outcome on their short stint on gambling. Maybe they can win big again and again and so it build their self-esteem. But if they lost, it might have a huge impact on mentality as we all know that losing in gambling is very painful and the mental strain it can give to us. So I guess who's willing to go and take the risk, either bare the pain, or feel invincible and proud of your self for just a couple of hours.
If you are worried about losing, why don't people gamble based on how much they can afford?  If it will affect their mind or life when losing that kind of amount of money, then for me, it's much better not to gamble at all.
I believe it's difficult, that's why for me, it really depends on the person. I know it's easy to say but difficult to do.

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If you are worried about losing, why don't people gamble based on how much they can afford?  If it will affect their mind or life when losing that kind of amount of money, then for me, it's much better not to gamble at all.
I believe it's difficult, that's why for me, it really depends on the person. I know it's easy to say but difficult to do.


Gambling is entertainment, besides wanting to hit it big of course.

You either understand this and adjust to that, or you eventually try to avenge what you gave to the House for the thrill and emotions.
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