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October 27, 2025, 03:56:10 AM
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Is there still a stable jobs these days? I don't know the country you came from  that make you to think there are stable jobs that is making people not to struggle to establish business or achieve what they want in the country, majority of people are struggling to live a good life they wish because majority of governments in the world are not doing the right thing that will eliminate struggle from citizens life's, is it how our forefathers make things difficult for people to earn good income from their place of work, these days, you can be employ today and get fire in few weeks later because there is a someone that is close to the owner of the organization or close to the manager of the organization that need employment, and this is what make me believe there is no stable jobs again compare to old days where you will be the one to quit or retire from the job in old age.

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October 27, 2025, 08:49:32 AM
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Op, as ur thread simply means or implies , we work to earn and not to struggle in life, every individual who wish to work, working already did it with the intention of earning a living or to elevate his or her living condition, regrettably the economic situation or condition has now worsting many things, though you will agree with me that there are  many factors that can make one struggle even while already working, for instance. Standard of living.  Some people are good in maintaining high standards of living without making reasonable savings from there salary. The moment something emergency comes up. You see them being indebted thereby resulting to struggle.
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October 27, 2025, 09:03:58 AM
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Op, as ur thread simply means or implies , we work to earn and not to struggle in life, every individual who wish to work, working already did it with the intention of earning a living or to elevate his or her living condition, regrettably the economic situation or condition has now worsting many things, though you will agree with me that there are  many factors that can make one struggle even while already working, for instance. Standard of living.  Some people are good in maintaining high standards of living without making reasonable savings from there salary. The moment something emergency comes up. You see them being indebted thereby resulting to struggle.

Hmmm, it seems like this is a reality we often see, and not just empty talk to create a meaningless narrative. Yes, it's a reality today: many people, despite having steady jobs and a steady income, can only afford to cover their living expenses for 15 days. After that, they have to work extra to cover the remaining 15 days. But, inevitably, sometimes they have to ask for loans or borrow money, either from the office treasurer or other people, and the last resort is online loans with exorbitant interest rates. But that's the reality.

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October 27, 2025, 10:51:17 AM
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In our country, this is the most common tradition or belief. While we're young, we were taught to study hard and finish schooling, and get a stable job. Because once we have already acquired a stable job, we will start earning and improve our lives. And create consistent progress, until we end up getting rich and enjoy the best things in life.

But I don't think we are getting align with it. Instead of working to earn and get rich, why are majority now end up struggling in life? Honestly, what I'm seeing right now is that we work to survive, not to make money and get rich in the process. Could this be the real possibility of life? Or we are just blinded by fantasies in life? Or is it because working alone is never sufficient enough to make riches in life, but we need various investments to achieve success and get wealthy in the long run?

I know different opinions and ideas may arise, but I'll be more willing to read and reflect each of it.

Unfortunately, in today's world, legal methods only lead to a life of poverty, which won't be good. It will simply be a miserable existence. And if someone wants to get rich legally, they can only do so in casinos. And if someone wants to get rich with crypto, they are forced to hide their passion due to strict regulations in most countries. It's very unfair that we try hard but end up with a legal gray area. I wish cryptocurrencies were legal everywhere.

 
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October 27, 2025, 09:45:49 PM
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Life without having any skill or hand work is like going to a farm with out tools and trying to work with your bare hands, that's pure suffering. In today's world, it's almost impossible to live comfortably without something you can depend on. That's why its important that everyone learns a skill or have a job that they can earn from.
When you have a source of income, you will notice that life becomes a little easier, even with the risen cost of goods and other expenses, at least you'll be able to provide for your self and avoid unnecessary struggles.
At the end of the day, the goal of working is not just to survive but to live a better life and gain stability and independence. We work to earn to make life easier not to suffer or remain in hardship
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October 31, 2025, 10:50:42 AM
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At the end of the day, the goal of working is not just to survive but to live a better life and gain stability and independence. We work to earn to make life easier not to suffer or remain in hardship

I agree with you, that is why it is important to learn or acquire skills because you can use this skills to get an income we must invest on ourselves and doing things we love or passionate about these can also turn into a way to earn money. living today is getting harder with the rise of cost and expenses which hinders us to live a life where we become stable and independent. but at the end of the days it is on us on how we do to achieve the life we want.

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October 31, 2025, 02:25:54 PM
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At the end of the day, the goal of working is not just to survive but to live a better life and gain stability and independence. We work to earn to make life easier not to suffer or remain in hardship

I agree with you, that is why it is important to learn or acquire skills because you can use this skills to get an income we must invest on ourselves and doing things we love or passionate about these can also turn into a way to earn money. living today is getting harder with the rise of cost and expenses which hinders us to live a life where we become stable and independent. but at the end of the days it is on us on how we do to achieve the life we want.
No person want to do struggle in life because it takes time and everyone want to eat food withoyr any effort. Money is important in life and people should learn earning money is not possible with struggle in life because we will give our all time to make money. We are wasting our time to earn money by doing small job but business will be best option for us because we could buy anything at any time and people will salute us in every good and bad days .Learning is also important in a field in which we are doing hard work and if we are not doing hard work in any field then we will be unsuccessful in a long term because long term is for people who are consistent and always try to do hard work.

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October 31, 2025, 05:11:41 PM
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Learning is also important in a field in which we are doing hard work and if we are not doing hard work in any field then we will be unsuccessful in a long term
Learning and hardwork  actually go hand in hand. Without learning, even our effort may not give the best results because we could be working hard but in the wrong direction. Continuous learning actually helps us to grow, and make wise decisions, especially in our today’s world. Success does not come overnight but it’s built step by step through consistency,  and self improvement. And what we should actually understand is that hardwork without learning is like running without direction, but learning with effort always leads somewhere meaningful.

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October 31, 2025, 06:39:49 PM
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Life without having any skill or hand work is like going to a farm with out tools and trying to work with your bare hands, that's pure suffering. In today's world, it's almost impossible to live comfortably without something you can depend on. That's why its important that everyone learns a skill or have a job that they can earn from.
When you have a source of income, you will notice that life becomes a little easier, even with the risen cost of goods and other expenses, at least you'll be able to provide for your self and avoid unnecessary struggles.
At the end of the day, the goal of working is not just to survive but to live a better life and gain stability and independence. We work to earn to make life easier not to suffer or remain in hardship
The problem of hustle is because we have been conditioned to think that is the key to the “good life”. But what is this good life easier than? Think about that. Hunter gatherers only worked 15-20 hours a week. We invented agriculture because we thought it would make life easier but what did we get instead? Longer work hours, worse diet, new diseases from being crammed into high densities with strangers. Then the industrial revolution comes along and it is going to set us free from toil through productivity, right? What do we get? A 60 hour work week until unions had to fight for 40 hour work weeks

Your entire argument that “skills equal survival” only holds water in extractive economies where essential resources for life have to be purchased. You have to be skilled in order to generate money to purchase a meal that is abundant but not accessible unless you can afford to pay its price. The issues have nothing to do with lack of skills. They have to do with systems in which the right to exist is decided on your ability to be productive for the economy

And work is going to give you stability and independence. Tell that to most people working these days. The gig economy, contract jobs, at-will employment? None of that is stable. One adjustment to an algorithm and your Uber earnings are gone. One corporate restructuring and you suddenly jobless. That so-called independence feels like a mirage when your survival hinges on whether someone else thinks you are worth keeping around

 
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October 31, 2025, 07:01:45 PM
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Is there still a stable jobs these days? I don't know the country you came from  that make you to think there are stable jobs that is making people not to struggle to establish business or achieve what they want in the country, majority of people are struggling to live a good life they wish because majority of governments in the world are not doing the right thing that will eliminate struggle from citizens life's, is it how our forefathers make things difficult for people to earn good income from their place of work, these days, you can be employ today and get fire in few weeks later because there is a someone that is close to the owner of the organization or close to the manager of the organization that need employment, and this is what make me believe there is no stable jobs again compare to old days where you will be the one to quit or retire from the job in old age.
Yes there are.

If you working for official government, the chance you will lost your job is very low except you commit fatal mistake. The higher chance you will get laid off if the country disbanded. Grin

However, many employees who work for official government want to quit because they don't feel motivated or nothing exciting anymore, hence they want to try something new.

In other sectors, stable jobs are very rare now due to too much population in this world.

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At the end of the day, the goal of working is not just to survive but to live a better life and gain stability and independence. We work to earn to make life easier not to suffer or remain in hardship

I agree with you, that is why it is important to learn or acquire skills because you can use this skills to get an income we must invest on ourselves and doing things we love or passionate about these can also turn into a way to earn money. living today is getting harder with the rise of cost and expenses which hinders us to live a life where we become stable and independent. but at the end of the days it is on us on how we do to achieve the life we want.
It is difficult to get a decent job now so there are some people who use their skills to earn money, but this is not bad, in fact I think it is better like that than working for someone else, it's just that some people are not very good at using the skills they have.

Sometimes they don't train them and choose to work with other people, maybe that happens because there is a choice because I understand that not everyone can use it.
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October 31, 2025, 07:35:30 PM
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This a very vital concern in this education system today, after sch you will be successful, we don't even believe this again, education is the key omor, education is very important but making it look as if without education one can't be successful isn't a good way to look at it. We were told while growing up that going to school, getting the best certificate, getting a good job and working hard automatically leads up to success, but not for our today lives, after graduating to get jobs  is a thing of struggle, and if we eventually get the job doesn't mean all problems are solved, the truth is just that times have changed.
Cost of living is increasing everyday, Job's are now difficult, and salaries are not even enough to meet up with our needs. So yes many work, to survive and take care of their families.
What you said is the reality on ground. The reality is beginning to unfold to some people for a long time that having the best degree, having a good job, and working hard will not lead to financial success.

You have to think of something different out of the box to be successful in life because we are living in a competitive society where everyone is working hard to survive due to the high cost of things, that having a single source of income can't carry you and your family through if you don't side hustle to support yourself financially.

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October 31, 2025, 07:54:40 PM
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Is there still a stable jobs these days? I don't know the country you came from  that make you to think there are stable jobs that is making people not to struggle to establish business or achieve what they want in the country, majority of people are struggling to live a good life they wish because majority of governments in the world are not doing the right thing that will eliminate struggle from citizens life's, is it how our forefathers make things difficult for people to earn good income from their place of work, these days, you can be employ today and get fire in few weeks later because there is a someone that is close to the owner of the organization or close to the manager of the organization that need employment, and this is what make me believe there is no stable jobs again compare to old days where you will be the one to quit or retire from the job in old age.

I can't help but agree with you on this, especially the fact that those who have someone from the inside will usually get the job instead of someone who is actually qualified for it. If you have everything it takes for a job you have applied for, but someone from the company knows another person who is close to them who needs a job as well, that other person will get hired instead of you, not because you are not qualified enough, but because you don't have any links, and the other person has it and that's why he is going to get the position and not you. It's a very bad thing, but unfortunately, it exists.

So, the only jobs that are stable are government jobs, where you won't get fired unless you break a rule or something that can get you fired, otherwise, you will have the job until you retire if you keep doing it properly, and that too if you are in a country where there is no corruption, because in countries where corruption in the government is very common, even government jobs aren't stable because if they ask you to do something in their favour which is not a very good thing and you refuse to do it, expect yourself to either get fired or transferred to a place where you wouldn't want to continue anymore yourself.
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November 02, 2025, 08:23:58 PM
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Learning and hardwork  actually go hand in hand. Without learning, even our effort may not give the best results because we could be working hard but in the wrong direction. Continuous learning actually helps us to grow, and make wise decisions, especially in our today’s world. Success does not come overnight but it’s built step by step through consistency,  and self improvement. And what we should actually understand is that hardwork without learning is like running without direction, but learning with effort always leads somewhere meaningful.
I agree that working hard without learning anything will not achieve It is related to a person's mental abilities which tasks they can learn while doing.A person has to work hard and that hard work is slowly making him successful. I believe that we do anything with our attention we will learn something from it is essential to have a purpose to work hard. If hard work is done in the right direction it does not waste our time. The greatest example of learning is education When we get education we get to learn a lot from it Education gives us awareness and helps in making decisions in life it is very important for us to have the ability it gives us a choice.
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November 02, 2025, 08:51:10 PM
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Actually our educational system is going down or has gone down because the school does not guarantee the graduates to have a common hope in our society, there's no certainty in becoming a graduate and securing a job at the end. At times, I was wondering what the future of our children may be, since we were told that education is the key to success, but when it reaches our turn, we can't even indicate padlock talk, much less the key to unlock our success.

However, working hard is not the best, our fathers there were securing a white collar job easily, and there's nothing like them working hard, and now it's becoming difficult for masses to secure a job. Moreover, people are actually working to survive at this time but not working to become rich.

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November 04, 2025, 03:51:53 PM
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Working everyday or extra hours doesn’t mean people will be able to earn enough to get rich ,and it’s true that majority of us are working just to survive. They’re doing it to be able to buy their needs like food, clothing and paying for their house rent etc, they’re not doing it to get rich, they’re just in a loop to work , earn and spend, while some people save like 40% of their income for months or so to start up something or invest also to achieve more. But no matter how much we earn things keeps getting more expensive .

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Working everyday or extra hours doesn’t mean people will be able to earn enough to get rich ,and it’s true that majority of us are working just to survive. They’re doing it to be able to buy their needs like food, clothing and paying for their house rent etc, they’re not doing it to get rich, they’re just in a loop to work , earn and spend, while some people save like 40% of their income for months or so to start up something or invest also to achieve more. But no matter how much we earn things keeps getting more expensive .
Most people are working hard just to meet up their basic needs, not necessarily to become wealthy. The cycle of working, earning, and spending seems endless, especially when the cost of living keeps rising faster than income. Saving or investing becomes difficult for many because their earnings barely cover necessities. Still, those who manage to save and invest wisely, even in small amounts, are taking an important step toward breaking that cycle. And it’s actually not just about working more hours, but about finding smarter ways to grow financially.

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November 07, 2025, 08:58:48 PM
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Working everyday or extra hours doesn’t mean people will be able to earn enough to get rich ,and it’s true that majority of us are working just to survive. They’re doing it to be able to buy their needs like food, clothing and paying for their house rent etc, they’re not doing it to get rich, they’re just in a loop to work , earn and spend, while some people save like 40% of their income for months or so to start up something or invest also to achieve more. But no matter how much we earn things keeps getting more expensive .
Most people are working hard just to meet up their basic needs, not necessarily to become wealthy. The cycle of working, earning, and spending seems endless, especially when the cost of living keeps rising faster than income. Saving or investing becomes difficult for many because their earnings barely cover necessities. Still, those who manage to save and invest wisely, even in small amounts, are taking an important step toward breaking that cycle. And it’s actually not just about working more hours, but about finding smarter ways to grow financially.
Struggle is very hard period from which people are passing because they have no source of income and they want to be successful in their life and to get all facilities of life . Rich people are comfortable with rich people and they want to make relationship with rich people and no one will see the person who is doing struggle in life and they want a successful person. But if person is not rich because he has no good background,he will work on the Skills to get successful and he will do hard work for at least 5 years and people will think that he is lot rich but when he will be rich , all people will find you and they will follow him and they will respect him And all people will try to make relationship with him.

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November 07, 2025, 11:41:00 PM
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Working everyday or extra hours doesn’t mean people will be able to earn enough to get rich ,and it’s true that majority of us are working just to survive. They’re doing it to be able to buy their needs like food, clothing and paying for their house rent etc, they’re not doing it to get rich, they’re just in a loop to work , earn and spend, while some people save like 40% of their income for months or so to start up something or invest also to achieve more. But no matter how much we earn things keeps getting more expensive .

Reality in life that circling around, those who got enough will keep on trying to survive while those who got extra opportunity will do some investment or business, it will give them chance to change something in terms of financial stability though not everyone have that same opportunity but for those who have it, they'll be able manifest, it's not an easy path but better compared with those who struggle to survive and can't do nothing to change things around for their financial needs.

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November 08, 2025, 05:15:56 AM
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In our country, this is the most common tradition or belief. While we're young, we were taught to study hard and finish schooling, and get a stable job. Because once we have already acquired a stable job, we will start earning and improve our lives. And create consistent progress, until we end up getting rich and enjoy the best things in life.

But I don't think we are getting align with it. Instead of working to earn and get rich, why are majority now end up struggling in life? Honestly, what I'm seeing right now is that we work to survive, not to make money and get rich in the process. Could this be the real possibility of life? Or we are just blinded by fantasies in life? Or is it because working alone is never sufficient enough to make riches in life, but we need various investments to achieve success and get wealthy in the long run?

I know different opinions and ideas may arise, but I'll be more willing to read and reflect each of it.
It's because people are doing the same thing and demand > supply.

One thing that most people overlook is that to get wealth they need to cater to the demand. Back then technology related applicants for job was rare, nowadays you can find dozens of them and therefore salary decreased.

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