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September 19, 2025, 08:55:32 AM
Last edit: September 19, 2025, 01:08:42 PM by Russlenat
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So it’s official now. Our very own John Riel “Quadro Alas” Casimero will be back in action this October 25 under Saikou × Lush / Kameda Promotions. He’ll be facing Kyonosuke Kameda of Japan in a 58kg contract weight, 10-round bout.

This fight is basically at featherweight range (58kg contract weight). With this setup, Casimero won’t have the chance to come in overweight like before, which even got him suspended for a year. This weight looks like a safe middle ground, still close to his natural division, but strict enough that he really needs to stay disciplined on the scale.

Fight details:

Casimero (34W, 23 KOs – 4L – 1D – 1NC), currently WBO Super Bantam #6
Kameda (15W, 9 KOs – 5L – 2D), ranked OPBF Featherweight #10
Contract weight: 58kg
Rounds: 10

So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?



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September 19, 2025, 10:34:23 AM
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The fight is just a month away, and hopefully that gives Casimero enough time to train properly and hit the weight target this time. Forget the talk about Inoue for now—Quadro Alas needs to channel all his energy into this bout and deliver a convincing performance. It’s been a full year since the Japan Boxing Commission suspended him over the weight issue, but that ban has finally been lifted.

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September 19, 2025, 10:40:38 AM
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Op you should add boxing somewhere in the title, so that people will easily know that the post is talking about boxing. I didn't know what the post was all about until I opened it. Most of the posts I have seen about boxing here in this gambling section always have boxing included in the title, so that people who don't have knowledge about boxing won't bother opening the thread.

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September 19, 2025, 01:13:48 PM
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Op you should add boxing somewhere in the title,

i have added it, thanks!

The fight is just a month away, and hopefully that gives Casimero enough time to train properly and hit the weight target this time. Forget the talk about Inoue for now—Quadro Alas needs to channel all his energy into this bout and deliver a convincing performance. It’s been a full year since the Japan Boxing Commission suspended him over the weight issue, but that ban has finally been lifted.


It’s his chance now, hopefully during that one-year ban he was still able to keep himself in shape. No more excuses, this is the weight class where I believe he’s most comfortable since his body has already grown into it.

And who knows, if they didn’t meet at super bantamweight, maybe they’ll finally clash in this division.

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September 19, 2025, 01:35:14 PM
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I was actually surprised about this fight, but it’s good that it’s happening since Casimero really needs a warm-up to restart his career. Feels like he’s not going in the right direction anymore, and honestly, there’s no one to blame but himself.

Since this isn’t a popular fight, I have a feeling it’s going to be hard to find betting odds for it. So if anyone here is using multiple sportsbooks and sees this fight listed, please share. I just want to put a bet on it.

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September 19, 2025, 01:42:22 PM
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So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?
Interesting the boxing battle between the Philippines and Japan the battle will take place 10 rounds, not a bad thing for John Riel Casimero and Kyonosuke Kameda, if we talk to boxing for both.

For me and my judgment clearly Casimero has a wealth of experience on the ring, he has proven the record 33 times in the boxing arena, while Kameda can be said to be relatively new, especially in the world of boxing, Now if seen from the experience that is clearly Casimero excels from Kameda, that is if seen from the magnifying glasses.

Even so, my fist still my fist concluded that Casimero had a lot of experience and achievements in the world of boxing, but I did not consider Kyonosuke weak, It could be that when the battle takes place, it can turn 100c young and experienced and experienced, it can happen, like the proverb of strength can defeat experience.

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Fight details:

Casimero (34W, 23 KOs – 4L – 1D – 1NC), currently WBO Super Bantam #6
Kameda (15W, 9 KOs – 5L – 2D), ranked OPBF Featherweight #10
Contract weight: 58kg
Rounds: 10

So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?


Based on stats Casimero will dominate this fight since he is against a low career fight boxer with already 5 losses. Casimero can spot already this guy weakness by reviewing his 5 losses.

However, Casimero already not on prime compared before and he even performed bad on his recent matches so I don’t want to be overconfident on betting with him.

I will just watch this match but don’t bet at all.

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So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?

It's hard to consider this as an easy fight because Casimero has been on a very long layoff, and I have seen him lack discipline while he is out of the ring.

This may not be the same Casimero we’ve seen in the past; he has been very inactive, and he is not in tip-top shape when he is not fighting. I think he's motivated by money and doesn't really want to return to earn title shots.

I feel sorry for Casimero for not having the opportunity to fight Inoue. He was a serious contender back then, but Inoue chose to ignore him, even though this decision led to backlash. I’m interested in whether Casimero still has it, so I’ll mark my calendar for this fight.

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September 19, 2025, 05:23:55 PM
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This fight is basically at featherweight range (58kg contract weight). With this setup, Casimero won’t have the chance to come in overweight like before, which even got him suspended for a year. This weight looks like a safe middle ground, still close to his natural division, but strict enough that he really needs to stay disciplined on the scale.
Regarding the suspension, if I remember correctly, the suspension only applies in Japan, meaning he was only banned in Japan, but he can still fight in other countries during the time of the ban.

So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?
It could be an easy fight, but I'm probably being biased since I don't know who his opponent is and how good he is. While I haven't followed what's going on with Casimero, I know he is a good fighter.

It's sad that he doesn't have great discipline, his career would have continued climbing if he hadn't made some stupid decisions.

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September 19, 2025, 05:35:56 PM
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I was actually surprised about this fight, but it’s good that it’s happening since Casimero really needs a warm-up to restart his career. Feels like he’s not going in the right direction anymore, and honestly, there’s no one to blame but himself.

Since this isn’t a popular fight, I have a feeling it’s going to be hard to find betting odds for it. So if anyone here is using multiple sportsbooks and sees this fight listed, please share. I just want to put a bet on it.
Yes, a reset is needed, but not sure if he has enough time for that. He is not getting any younger and it seems that he could have reach his prime years already. Now he is fighting just scrap boxers and it looks like he is just going into the motion of earning money for him and his family to sustain after his boxing career. In any case it is good that he has a fight, but it doesn't mean that go and fight for the belt again. His opponent has 5 losses already, even if he wins, it's not enough for other champion to raise a eye brow and says that he is a good fight or good as a mandatory.

 
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Fight details:

Casimero (34W, 23 KOs – 4L – 1D – 1NC), currently WBO Super Bantam #6
Kameda (15W, 9 KOs – 5L – 2D), ranked OPBF Featherweight #10
Contract weight: 58kg
Rounds: 10

So what do you think about this fight,  will it be a big challenge for Casimero, or just an easy win?


Based on stats Casimero will dominate this fight since he is against a low career fight boxer with already 5 losses. Casimero can spot already this guy weakness by reviewing his 5 losses.

However, Casimero already not on prime compared before and he even performed bad on his recent matches so I don’t want to be overconfident on betting with him.

I will just watch this match but don’t bet at all.

This is also my thought as well, it's like they are just pitting him to nobody right now. When he moves up to 122 lbs, we thought that he will also dominated that weight class. But problems getting into the weight was his main issue here. If I'm not mistaken, he doesn't have any proper team like a nutritionist that will handle how much he is putting into his body to make weight.

And after that, it's all downhill for him fighting no name boxer and it didn't bring any from his boxing career. He will definitely win this fight, maybe in a knockout as he doesn't have the problem getting into the weight and be a full blow featherweight. But the quality of his opponents should be good as well and not fighting who has a lot of losses.

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Kameda is a journeyman willing to face anybody. This will be the third highly ranked fighter he faces in 2025 after losing to Luis Nery and Alan Picasso. He is an aggressive fighter who gets hit a lot, so the style is tailor made for Casimero to look good against. It won’t bring Casimero any closer to fighting Inoue, but at the very least it will serves as a measuring stick to see where he is at compared to other top fighters.

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It's sad that he doesn't have great discipline, his career would have continued climbing if he hadn't made some stupid decisions.

I agree with that, but that’s in the past - he shouldn’t let that experience haunt him. He still has time to prove he’s championship material. Start with featherweight, because I believe the champions here will be willing to face him once he climbs the rankings.

Forget about Inoue, he’s been ducking Casimero anyway, at least that’s how I see it. Not sure if this opponent now is top quality, but it’s still better than not seeing Casimero fight at all.

 
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It's sad that he doesn't have great discipline, his career would have continued climbing if he hadn't made some stupid decisions.

I agree with that, but that’s in the past - he shouldn’t let that experience haunt him. He still has time to prove he’s championship material. Start with featherweight, because I believe the champions here will be willing to face him once he climbs the rankings.

Forget about Inoue, he’s been ducking Casimero anyway, at least that’s how I see it. Not sure if this opponent now is top quality, but it’s still better than not seeing Casimero fight at all.

Not just once, but many times he has missed weight already. And then he severed his relationship with MP, that really started his decline as if he was blacklisted and could only get a manager from Japan.

And now it seems that this is the first fight of Inoue under a new Japanese manager?

It's obvious that his opponent is not a top tier, he had 5 loses already. But it was good to see Quadro Alas and we can still hope that he can get one belt before he will retire as he is 36 years old and that wear and tear will show up by that age.

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Not just once, but many times he has missed weight already. And then he severed his relationship with MP, that really started his decline as if he was blacklisted and could only get a manager from Japan.

And now it seems that this is the first fight of Inoue under a new Japanese manager?
I couldn’t find any information about his manager being Japanese, but his current promoter is Japanese.

Here’s the source :
Casimero signs contract with Japanese promoter

It's obvious that his opponent is not a top tier, he had 5 loses already. But it was good to see Quadro Alas and we can still hope that he can get one belt before he will retire as he is 36 years old and that wear and tear will show up by that age.
There’s a big chance for him to get a belt in this division since Inoue hasn’t moved up yet. The champions here aren’t as dominant compared to super bantamweight.

These are the names…
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WBO: Rafael Espinoza
IBF: Angelo Leo
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September 20, 2025, 07:14:03 PM
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Not just once, but many times he has missed weight already. And then he severed his relationship with MP, that really started his decline as if he was blacklisted and could only get a manager from Japan.

And now it seems that this is the first fight of Inoue under a new Japanese manager?
I couldn’t find any information about his manager being Japanese, but his current promoter is Japanese.

Here’s the source :
Casimero signs contract with Japanese promoter
He probably meant "promoter" because before his current promoter, his previous promoter was also Japanese, and the time that Casimero and Masayuki Ito(his previous promoter) were working together was when he was still banned from fighting in Japan.

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So, 58kg catchweight, 10-rounder under Saiko × Lush & Kameda Promotions!! You know, this is not a standard weight class in boxing, right?

I see Casemiro recently signed with Kameda Promotions. He’s a hard-hitting, multi-division former world champion, but if i recall correctly he was suspended for a year for cutting weight also he has various stomach issues, so making 58kg &  discipline are the real points here.

i think  if he’s on the weight & sharp, he should be the favorite. if he shows any weight or stomach issues or ring rust, it could be messy.

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So, 58kg catchweight, 10-rounder under Saiko × Lush & Kameda Promotions!! You know, this is not a standard weight class in boxing, right?

I see Casemiro recently signed with Kameda Promotions. He’s a hard-hitting, multi-division former world champion, but if i recall correctly he was suspended for a year for cutting weight also he has various stomach issues, so making 58kg &  discipline are the real points here.

i think  if he’s on the weight & sharp, he should be the favorite. if he shows any weight or stomach issues or ring rust, it could be messy.

I would assume as well that Casimero might be the slight favorite going into this fight. Afterall, he is still the A-side here. This is above his weight class, and maybe this is what his new manager has done, move him up so that there will be no issues on weight.

But as far as choosing their opponent for Casimero, this is not a good fight for him. Maybe they are just going to test the waters first if he still has the power moving up or if Casimero would look like a regular fighter. And I don't think that even if he wins here, he will be given a  crack on the belt holder.

 
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I would assume as well that Casimero might be the slight favorite going into this fight. Afterall, he is still the A-side here. This is above his weight class, and maybe this is what his new manager has done, move him up so that there will be no issues on weight.
I think he should be a heavy favorite. His opponents aren’t really known while Casimero has already been a champion before, so I don’t see why he’d only be a slight favorite.

But whatever, as long as the fight happens it’s going to be entertaining. Casimero always goes for an impressive win. His only real problem has been the weight sometimes, but hopefully we don’t see the same issue here.

But as far as choosing their opponent for Casimero, this is not a good fight for him. Maybe they are just going to test the waters first if he still has the power moving up or if Casimero would look like a regular fighter. And I don't think that even if he wins here, he will be given a  crack on the belt holder.
If he stays in featherweight, there’s definitely a chance he can grab a belt. And with this comeback, I think it already shows he’s no longer chasing Inoue, unless Inoue decides to move up and not duck him this time.

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I would assume as well that Casimero might be the slight favorite going into this fight. Afterall, he is still the A-side here. This is above his weight class, and maybe this is what his new manager has done, move him up so that there will be no issues on weight.
I think he should be a heavy favorite. His opponents aren’t really known while Casimero has already been a champion before, so I don’t see why he’d only be a slight favorite.

But whatever, as long as the fight happens it’s going to be entertaining. Casimero always goes for an impressive win. His only real problem has been the weight sometimes, but hopefully we don’t see the same issue here.

But as far as choosing their opponent for Casimero, this is not a good fight for him. Maybe they are just going to test the waters first if he still has the power moving up or if Casimero would look like a regular fighter. And I don't think that even if he wins here, he will be given a  crack on the belt holder.
If he stays in featherweight, there’s definitely a chance he can grab a belt. And with this comeback, I think it already shows he’s no longer chasing Inoue, unless Inoue decides to move up and not duck him this time.

I doubt that he can get a chance to even fight for a belt in the featherweight division. You will really need to be great at this division. All the current and interim champion here are big names, like Rafael Espinoza, Stephen Fulton and Rey Vargas.

Although Casimero's opponent is rank, but he is way below in the top 5. And Casimero is not even rank in this division as this is his first entry. So he will have to beat a lot of good boxers to even be in the top 1 of any governing bodies. But time is running out for Casimero. He is already 36 years old and most likely could have only 2 years in his career.

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