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September 21, 2025, 03:13:10 AM
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i know there is no comparison between the 2 but hear me out pls:  Grin

  • the us government has proposed a $100,000 fee for new h-1b visa
  • getting h1b is not guaranteed,, there’s a lottery system if [applications > quota] & even after selection, the petition can still be denied
  • that $100,000 fee is non-refundable. if your application fails, the money is gone
  • btc price atm is  $115,692; so $100,000 buys about 0.86 bitcoin
  • very few people hold a full bitcoin & owning 0.86 btc is almost as rare as holding 1
  • bitcoin sits safely in your wallet; it doesn’t depend on employer sponsorship, approvals, or government policies
  • while h1b may open a career path in the usa, it comes with uncertainty, waiting, and bureaucracy

for me personally,, if i were deciding between paying $100K for the h1b visa or buying 0.86 btc with that money, i’d buy the bitcoin

or maybe buy half a bitcoin n invest rest in real-estate, stocks, gold, etc.

the new full form of h1b = hodl 1 bitcoin Cheesy

what do u guys think? am i rite or am i rite? 

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September 21, 2025, 06:53:56 AM
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Trump is on the mission to mess with India in any possible way.

At first the rumor was 100K annual fee and one who didn't enter before the deadline into the country will also be charged 100K even if they are an existing visa holder but some new updates coming up that clears it's one time fee and not annually and there might not be any fee at all. It affects Indians but I guess Trump is doing us a big favor here in the long run, we can create our own google and facebook if Indians stays here and government creates the right opportunities for them.

Now coming to the topic, I would rather take that 100K and move to Dubai and buy bitcoin there and pay no taxes on anything. Cheesy

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September 21, 2025, 07:41:31 AM
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i know there is no comparison between the 2 but hear me out pls:  Grin

  • the us government has proposed a $100,000 fee for new h-1b visa
  • getting h1b is not guaranteed,, there’s a lottery system if [applications > quota] & even after selection, the petition can still be denied
  • that $100,000 fee is non-refundable. if your application fails, the money is gone
  • btc price atm is  $115,692; so $100,000 buys about 0.86 bitcoin
  • very few people hold a full bitcoin & owning 0.86 btc is almost as rare as holding 1
  • bitcoin sits safely in your wallet; it doesn’t depend on employer sponsorship, approvals, or government policies
  • while h1b may open a career path in the usa, it comes with uncertainty, waiting, and bureaucracy

for me personally,, if i were deciding between paying $100K for the h1b visa or buying 0.86 btc with that money, i’d buy the bitcoin

or maybe buy half a bitcoin n invest rest in real-estate, stocks, gold, etc.

the new full form of h1b = hodl 1 bitcoin Cheesy

what do u guys think? am i rite or am i rite? 
Your argument implying that this 100k fees is paid by h1b applicant(in 99.99% cases it's not true), which is not correct and this fees will be paid by companies/employers and not applicants.

So i think whole argument missing the point and then if we mix bitcoin in this context, it sounds unnatural comparison to my ears.


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September 21, 2025, 07:49:09 AM
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He just want attention . The geopolitical dynamics have changed now. And he can't accept the fact that he is not getting the attention he used to get .

What will they do if India starts boycotting US.
India has a good history of uniting when it comes to boycotting.

Indians are very hardworking and always had believe in peace this decision might backbite them .We just have to wait for some days .

And.. this H1B redefined is a good way to increase crypto's presence in India haha


Even if the companies/employer pay the fees they will deduct somehow from the employees . This thing will lead to lesser people taking intrest in US for studies or other endeavours.

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September 21, 2025, 02:37:18 PM
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I do not understand why the OP thinks that a young, hardworking individual who has made their life after graduating from an IIT or an IIM does not want to get an HIB Visa for themselves. This is inevitable due to what we still see in 2025, I mean, the worst infrastructure development, corruption, and the biggest of all civic sense. I have encountered the worst civic sense from Indians when trying to park my vehicle or scooter within my society. I cannot tell you the pain in public parking.

Again, as expected TACO was delivered, and most probably it was a diplomatic move due to diplomatic pressure as India holds the maximum of 70 percent HIB Visa workforce. I guess it would be from the corporations as I have seen a tweet from ELON Challenging the move by Trump. In all I guess there is a big recession on the way, and as an Indian, I feel it should not be a replica of 2008.
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September 21, 2025, 03:09:51 PM
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What will they do if India starts boycotting US.
India has a good history of uniting when it comes to boycotting.

Even if the companies/employer pay the fees they will deduct somehow from the employees . This thing will lead to lesser people taking intrest in US for studies or other endeavours.

Indians can't afford to boycott US just like any other country because a big chunk of GDP dependent on the American companies and if not for them then most of the graduates in India will be jobless and don't forget IT revolution made India better in lot of ways but we reached that point there will be no more possibility to grow further so from government they need to explore newer possibilities instead of lead them into religious chaos.

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Indians can't afford to boycott US just like any other country because a big chunk of GDP dependent on the American companies and if not for them then most of the graduates in India will be jobless and don't forget IT revolution made India better in lot of ways but we reached that point there will be no more possibility to grow further so from government they need to explore newer possibilities instead of lead them into religious chaos.
Have you seen the kind of debt US have right now Why do you think all this is happening . India will find some other way around we just have to wait and watch .
Rajneeti aur kutniti hai ye aur Bharat ka itehas gawah hai .
Spiritiuality is something which is above our understanding .
I have seen people with a mindset that even if they dont have a lot they still choose to be happy by saying We are greatful for whatever we have .

Plus History repeats itself India was called a golden bird . People came People tried to rule People stole from us but still somehow we stood up and kept walking.

Right now we are not running like US but we are jogging .
And in a long run Jogging is always preferred haha.

And dont forget the influence of Indians in World.
Give me a single country which doesn't hold indian citizen .
People do go away because of lack of infrastructure ., lackof civic sense but there Indian mindset never leaves them .

What do you think can happen next . One bold move from India
and we will again see the bird becoming golden again .
The kind of magic and hoodoo which happens in India is far beyond understanding . Just see the roots .
I think this it the best time the world should see the patterns and take intrest in INDIA.

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September 22, 2025, 05:02:49 PM
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India will find some other way around we just have to wait and watch .
I am proud to be an Indian and there is no second thought in that but we can't just ignore the reality even if India's growth in terms of GDP isn't about the everyone's growth and it is all about just 100 people made tremendous money in the last 10 years so we have more GDP but our per capita income is on par with poorer countries that needs to be changed.

This new rule on h1b visa is going to affect lot of Indians who are studying in the top institutes here or in US itself because 100K dollars isn't worthy to pay for every workers they hire so they might not be interested in hiring or the other thing can happen those big companies will hire people in India and set up their company in India and we do the job from here completely.

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September 23, 2025, 05:06:16 AM
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I am proud to be an Indian and there is no second thought in that but we can't just ignore the reality even if India's growth in terms of GDP isn't about the everyone's growth and it is all about just 100 people made tremendous money in the last 10 years so we have more GDP but our per capita income is on par with poorer countries that needs to be changed.
I second that. The number of millionaires and billionaires has increased in the last decade. While the middle class still struggles to get by.
This new rule on h1b visa is going to affect lot of Indians who are studying in the top institutes here or in US itself because 100K dollars isn't worthy to pay for every workers they hire so they might not be interested in hiring or the other thing can happen those big companies will hire people in India and set up their company in India and we do the job from here completely.
It is a one-time fee, not a recurring one, that applies to new applicants. Indians will use all their savings to pay those extra fee,s and companies need Indian talents.
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September 23, 2025, 02:56:03 PM
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It is a one-time fee, not a recurring one, that applies to new applicants. Indians will use all their savings to pay those extra fee,s and companies need Indian talents.

But, in most cases it is the company that needs to pay the fee not the employee so if it went from 2K to 100K, I don't know how many companies will be okay with that. And not everyone going to US is not just to Google or Microsoft, there are also small companies that are working with 100 - 200 employees who will never able to afford that 100K fee so they won't hire anyone new until there is some kind of revision or exemption.

And this is not just about h1b or tariff, it is US showing their hate against India and for that reasons we may not be welcomed in there as before.

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September 23, 2025, 08:58:48 PM
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All I want to say is, it's a wakeup call for the Indians who are living with the US dream. Maybe the ship has sailed and we need to explore the other ways.
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September 26, 2025, 04:45:42 PM
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One of my friend's dad went to the US in early 90s and that time he had to pay around 15k(INR) for visa. Now it is close to 90L? Wow, that's a big gap but still some people will prefer paying this amount because of new career opportunities and better lifestyle. Going to the US was my dream when I was a kid but now I know there are a lot better things to do here in India so why should go there?

I would too buy bitcoins instead of spending $100k on that visa. Maybe not just bitcoins but I can invest someplace else where I can get decent returns. I'll instead buy a well-known franchise and would setup my cafe in half of that amount and will start earning really good returns out of it.
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September 26, 2025, 06:32:11 PM
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I would too buy bitcoins instead of spending $100k on that visa. Maybe not just bitcoins but I can invest someplace else where I can get decent returns. I'll instead buy a well-known franchise and would setup my cafe in half of that amount and will start earning really good returns out of it.
You think business is the right idea? I don't find anyone happy with their sales growth and they blame two things such as demonetization and GST implementation.

IMO, business is the least preferred option right now. Just buy stocks and crypto which is risky but can give juicy rewards if you picked the right one.

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Maybe not just bitcoins but I can invest someplace else where I can get decent returns. I'll instead buy a well-known franchise and would setup my cafe in half of that amount and will start earning really good returns out of it.

It is your money, and it is your choice of investment. I would still like to know which business or investment has given massive returns on investment apart from Bitcoin in the past decade, as you mentioned about the franchise business.
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September 27, 2025, 03:23:55 PM
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Your argument implying that this 100k fees is paid by h1b applicant(in 99.99% cases it's not true), which is not correct and this fees will be paid by companies/employers and not applicants.

So i think whole argument missing the point and then if we mix bitcoin in this context, it sounds unnatural comparison to my ears.


While it's true that the employers need to pay the fee of $100k but the students are also required to pay the fees right ?
So in that case, don't you think it would be better to avoid paying that fee at first place ?
Investing it in bitcoin or not is another topic but why pay such a huge fee.


for me personally,, if i were deciding between paying $100K for the h1b visa or buying 0.86 btc with that money, i’d buy the bitcoin

or maybe buy half a bitcoin n invest rest in real-estate, stocks, gold, etc.

the new full form of h1b = hodl 1 bitcoin Cheesy

what do u guys think? am i rite or am i rite? 

Lol, I really like that full form.

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Your argument implying that this 100k fees is paid by h1b applicant(in 99.99% cases it's not true), which is not correct and this fees will be paid by companies/employers and not applicants.

So i think whole argument missing the point and then if we mix bitcoin in this context, it sounds unnatural comparison to my ears.


While it's true that the employers need to pay the fee of $100k but the students are also required to pay the fees right ?
So in that case, don't you think it would be better to avoid paying that fee at first place ?
Investing it in bitcoin or not is another topic but why pay such a huge fee.
h1b and student visa are completely different and have no relation whatsoever so nope, students are not required to pay 100k.

Students do get to work after 1 year given they are eligible ( again it's not  under H1b but F1-M1 visa) trump regime might target this category seperately.


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Your argument implying that this 100k fees is paid by h1b applicant(in 99.99% cases it's not true), which is not correct and this fees will be paid by companies/employers and not applicants.

So i think whole argument missing the point and then if we mix bitcoin in this context, it sounds unnatural comparison to my ears.


While it's true that the employers need to pay the fee of $100k but the students are also required to pay the fees right ?
So in that case, don't you think it would be better to avoid paying that fee at first place ?
Investing it in bitcoin or not is another topic but why pay such a huge fee.
h1b and student visa are completely different and have no relation whatsoever so nope, students are not required to pay 100k.

Students do get to work after 1 year given they are eligible ( again it's not  under H1b but F1-M1 visa) trump regime might target this category seperately.



You are right. I just rechecked it mentioned that students who are transitioning into H1B are required to pay the fees.
Again, it will be the employer who will have to pay the hefty fees and with this I believe US companies will reduce hiring people with H1B.

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You are right. I just rechecked it mentioned that students who are transitioning into H1B are required to pay the fees.
Again, it will be the employer who will have to pay the hefty fees and with this I believe US companies will reduce hiring people with H1B.


Existing visa holders will not be affected by this new rule but this is going to completely affect the new recruiters and probably no one will be hired unless the individual is high talent and the compnay wants them so much. There similar L1B visa which maybe used meanwhile by the bigger companies but it doesn't offer the same perks as H1B and also the workers can't really live as long as they are in the L1B and if they want they can only be deported to their national not to other US companies.

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