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September 28, 2025, 01:44:56 PM
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The primary reason for creating this topic is that 86 million bank accounts in Vietnam were shut down due to biometric discrepancies, but a similar issue is also occurring in the Bitcoin space, and some people are unaware of it.
And what similar problem is there with bitcoin? Who can block all BTC-user's wallets with the click of a button?

I saw a description of this news online that "what happened is the best advertisement for bitcoin".

I could remember years ago when CoinBase introduced a tough KYC procedure, and all the users of the exchange who cant comply with or execute the harsh KYC cant access their funds.
So shouldn't have used centralized exchangers. P2P is the "key to freedom".

Did Satoshi "instruct\bequeathed" BTC-users to use exchangers? There wasn't a word about that in the WP, right?

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September 28, 2025, 10:14:07 PM
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The primary reason for creating this topic is that 86 million bank accounts in Vietnam were shut down due to biometric discrepancies, but a similar issue is also occurring in the Bitcoin space, and some people are unaware of it.
And what similar problem is there with bitcoin? Who can block all BTC-user's wallets with the click of a button?

I saw a description of this news online that "what happened is the best advertisement for bitcoin".
The similar problem is that some centralized Bitcoin exchanges are doing the exact thing traditional banking is doing, and it's a drawback for privacy enthusiasts.

I could remember years ago when CoinBase introduced a tough KYC procedure, and all the users of the exchange who cant comply with or execute the harsh KYC cant access their funds.
So shouldn't have used centralized exchangers. P2P is the "key to freedom".

Did Satoshi "instruct\bequeathed" BTC-users to use exchangers? There wasn't a word about that in the WP, right?
Yes, there was a word about that in the whitepaper, but some words are provided in the WP that literally discourage the use of a centralized exchange as storage. An example is the first phrase
"A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. "

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September 28, 2025, 11:17:43 PM
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Yes all the more reason to own bitcoin and own it well. You dont want to fall victim to crap like this, it’s inhumane and just plain wrong to be doing this type of thing to your own people and making scamble to meet some BS deadline. I would be so pissed. This is just too bad
People I pity the most for this type of situation are those who are foreigners to the country, as it will really be a living hell to wake up and notice that your account has been closed with no remedy. Nothing, nothing. They may be fighting crime, no doubt, but there is still a better way of doing things than using a deadline to get people's money stocked and completely fortified.

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September 29, 2025, 03:03:20 AM
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Exchanges are not storage wallets in the first place. And I don't understand why people are neglecting this. Instead of having a controlled wallet, they continue to use exchange wallets. I wonder why people have learned about the Coinbase incident and many others with the same cases as OP had mentioned, or they simply ignore them.

Until now, we still have holders complaining about the loss of their BTC, which, in fact, they already know how to safeguard. Or they keep themselves innocent despite knowing the possibility.

I think the main reason is for convenience, storing on exchanges allows them to avoid the complicated technical procedures of using non custodial wallets. Also, another reason is that their main goal when investing in bitcoin is profit, not finding a tool to turn themselves into their own bank. Unlike self-custody, storing on an exchange will make buying and selling faster and easier for them.

After all, what people are aiming for and looking for is convenience and profit, not privacy and complete control over their assets as they are preaching.

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September 29, 2025, 03:59:32 AM
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I think the main reason is for convenience, storing on exchanges allows them to avoid the complicated technical procedures of using non custodial wallets. Also, another reason is that their main goal when investing in bitcoin is profit, not finding a tool to turn themselves into their own bank. Unlike self-custody, storing on an exchange will make buying and selling faster and easier for them.

After all, what people are aiming for and looking for is convenience and profit, not privacy and complete control over their assets as they are preaching.
That is very good point about why people keep their Bitcoin on exchanges. Most users care more about convenience and making profit than they do about having full control of their money. And yes exchanges are much simpler to use and avoid difficult steps of managing your own wallet. Also using exchange is faster for buying and selling which is important for people who want to trade quickly to make money. This shows that most people choose simplicity and speed over complete privacy that comes with self custody.

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September 29, 2025, 04:00:43 AM
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News will continue to be a wake up call for others to stop relying on Centralised platform for data and funds.

A sudden news from the government for a new policy in situations like this, can lead to state unrest expecially when many fails to get it done before deadline because of limited handstand more. Speaking of something that happened in a more recent years in Nigeria.

No new policy will make you lose the access or control of your coin on a non-custodial wallets.

That's why government love fiat currency and institutes running it like Banks because the fiat system give governments and Banks complete authority to control the system. Once you open a bank accoun,t you need to fully comply with Bank policies to keep your account running.

The reason why decentralised Bitcoin is not like by governments and banks is because they can't do any dirty tactics with it. The decentralized bitcoin gives the financial control in the hand of owner unlike Banks and other centralised institutes.

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September 29, 2025, 05:52:01 AM
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Vietnam’s recent decision to delete over 86 million bank accounts underscores growing concerns over centralized control of personal finances. As biometric verification becomes mandatory, critics argue that the sweeping closures expose the vulnerability of traditional banking.

The event has sparked renewed interest in decentralized alternatives such as Bitcoin, which operates independently of government or institutional oversight.

Vietnam Deletes Millions of Accounts Under New Biometric Rules
Vietnamese commercial banks began removing over 86 million bank accounts in early September 2025 after the State Bank of Vietnam (SBV) enforced new biometric requirements. Authorities say the policy targets accounts lacking face or fingerprint verification and aims to curb fraud, cybercrime, and money laundering.

The country has an estimated 200 million bank accounts. Following the nationwide review, approximately 113 million remained active. Accounts flagged as inactive or not updated with biometric data faced deletion, leaving many residents scrambling to meet compliance deadlines.

Foreign residents report particular challenges. In-person identity checks are mandatory, and remote options remain limited, creating hurdles for those outside Vietnam or unable to visit branches quickly. Critics argue the measures risk excluding vulnerable groups and may disrupt legitimate financial activity.

Global Context of Sudden Account Freezes
Vietnam’s sweeping action is not unique. Around the world, governments and financial institutions routinely freeze or seize funds, often without prior notice.

In China, rural bank customers in 2022 faced frozen deposits for months amid fraud investigations, prompting widespread protests. The US has long employed civil asset forfeiture, allowing law enforcement to seize assets even without a criminal conviction. In the UK, “Account Freezing Orders” empower authorities to block access when anti-money-laundering concerns arise.




This is another wake-up call for everyone reading this who is into Bitcoin but has yet to adopt the principle of not trusting third parties, which is one of the major purposes Satoshi created Bitcoin. Because you can't treat Bitcoin like a JPEG and never pay dearly sooner or later.
The primary reason for creating this topic is that 86 million bank accounts in Vietnam were shut down due to biometric discrepancies, but a similar issue is also occurring in the Bitcoin space, and some people are unaware of it.
I could remember years ago when CoinBase introduced a tough KYC procedure, and all the users of the exchange who cant comply with or execute the harsh KYC cant access their funds.

As Bitcoin is now mainstream, we need to prioritize the use of a self custodial wallet.                                                                                                                             

I am wondering how the banks will get the job done since they are looking forward to accepting and safe keeping Bitcoin for their customers, it is not hidden that some banks hired crazy workers that will ruin your day when you needed help the most, some of them turned their banking job into their private business as if they own the banks, they will lay stupid command on you and you are to follow if you want to access your account, imagine someone telling you what to do after keeping your BTC in their hands.

There is never going to be an offer rendered to me as a bank user that will make me surrender my Bitcoin to the banks, not in this life time, those people are so weird and wicked, I am talking from experience, I had a uncle who was sick and we had to admit him in a hospital and I had some bills to clear, I got to the bank and explained everything to the cashier that it is an emergency, this crazy bitch told me to go back and queue at the back of almost 30 people, after waiting for an hour I smartly find the bank manager and told him everything, thank God he is a good man, he hasten the whole thing up for my uncles sake.

The command on my own money, the rules on my own money is why I can't stand the banks, maybe the experience is different in other countries but it is worse over here, I will never deposit my Bitcoin into my bank account.
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