Global interest from poor/corrupt countries

[Sobz]

Sometimes I imagine why countries are poor and corrupt for a very long time, and you can see that the people in nations like this are so tired of the corruption and bad governance in their country, but they can't change anything even with all the effort they have put in over a long time. These countries can be called poor nations because of the high rate of poverty among the population, but looking at the resources and revenue found in these countries, you would see that the country is not really poor but chooses to keep its citizens poor. There are some leaders who are ready to bring good change to these countries, but they lack the power to overthrow the corrupt government that is in power, and world leaders are not making any effort to endorse genuine leaders who can make a positive difference in poor countries. It seems that most of the developed countries are benefiting from these poor and corrupt nations, and if poor and corrupt countries change and have better governments, developed countries won't benefit from them anymore.

[348Judah]

Sometimes I imagine why countries are poor and corrupt for a very long time

A country can be poor, but to stay in poverty is their leaders decision in choosing from how they can tackle the economy and the challenges facing the people from massing out, but this can only be possible if they are also not corrupt, because the world now is turning into something else and we cant stop others on what we are also found guilty of.

and you can see that the people in nations like this are so tired of the corruption and bad governance in their country, but they can't change anything even with all the effort they have put in over a long time.

The masses have their voices and can be heard, except if they wish not to express their heartfelt and continue with the sufferings they are into, we can take a look at the Gen Z protest in Nepal and how everything turned downed until they ensure that their voces are being heard by the entire world, we have the use of internet, things can go so crazy to an extent and you begin to see people reacting to speak out their mind and fight for their right before it turns into a revolution.

[Roseline492]

Are you saying that the developed countries rulers or leaders has the right and power to change any bad government from another country into a better one from the same country?, actually those people do not have such power to enforce that because every countries are responsible for themselves and if there country is corrupt they are also going to be the ones that would resolve it themselves, is only when there is no rulers but instead a single centralized leader before you can say there should be an intervention from higher power over it. So actually a zero responses from any country isn't because of what they're achieving from the country but is because there is nothing they can do about it.

[asriloni]

People in developing country have poor mindset. They never think to vote for the better life, but voting for the money. They always welcomed politicians who did money politics. Things worsen when they never had intention to change their mindset. It makes the same cycle happened everytime, and corruption exist forever.

[Josefjix]

In the recent EFCC magazine i read few days ago, a bank manager was suspected to have moved over $200+ and have been doing this for many years but a day got him caught, sued to court by EFCC showing every evidence of funds been moved, according to source, it says the manager has built businesses and infrastructure in developed countries.

What is the point, i agree to your post because these looters will never build with the embezzled money in the same country to avoid been questioned by any security bodies, instead, making enrichment to the developed countries already with stolen funds.

This behavior keeps the poor countries more poor because the embezzled money could not build job opportunity system in the same country. This is very deep and draining.

[Solodoski]

It seems that most of the developed countries are benefiting from these poor and corrupt nations, and if poor and corrupt countries change and have better governments, developed countries won't benefit from them anymore.

It's no secret that the developed nations are benefiting from the developing or under developed nations. It has always been programmed that way. The under-developed or developing nations has been programmed to supply raw materials for the developed nations which in turn helps these countries to be better. The poverty and corruption in such nations help for the betterment of developed nations,  although I don't think they have the power to change a corrupt government since it's a sovereign state, but I believe they are happy for it to remain that way, because it's benefits them.

[Alpha Marine]

People in developing country have poor mindset. They never think to vote for the better life, but voting for the money. They always welcomed politicians who did money politics. Things worsen when they never had intention to change their mindset. It makes the same cycle happened everytime, and corruption exist forever.

As much as I agree with this, it's not that simple. You see, poverty, illiteracy and ignorance are tools that these politicians have weaponised. That is their greatest tool. They keep these people poor and illiterate so they can't make critical decisions. Even the educated ones didn't have a good education, so they're still not very smart. Keep in mind that the highly educated ones, the less educated ones and the illiterates all have the same amount of votes during elections.
The politicians don't stop there; they buy the elites in society. The ones others listen to, the ones whose words have value, so when they say others should support a particular candidate, the rest follow, and when the majority of them are uneducated people, what do you expect?

These people are so poor to an extent that something as small as $20 looks like a lot of money, so when politicians offer it to these people, they feel so grateful. This is how they weaponise poverty.
Now these people don't understand what a good government should look like. They believe a good politician is the one who gives them money and gifts, so when politicians do these, they rejoice and term him a "good man". It's a very good system that politicians in these countries have built, and it works for them. I honestly don't see a way to break the system, because for the system to be broken, the eyes of the people need to be open to see and understand how it works, and how will they be able to when all the institutions that are supposed to do that are run by the government?

[Ucy]

Would you rather get caged in a zoo and be well taken care of, or be in a jungle struggling to survive?
By the way, it's not in the interest of the zoo keeper/owner to let the animals in the jungle to thrive, be strong and cross their boundaries.. The jungle animals either get controlled or be suppressed.

I hope you now know why the "poor and corrupt" countries won't have it so easy.

[peter0425]

Sometimes I imagine why countries are poor and corrupt for a very long time, and you can see that the people in nations like this are so tired of the corruption and bad governance in their country, but they can't change anything even with all the effort they have put in over a long time. These countries can be called poor nations because of the high rate of poverty among the population, but looking at the resources and revenue found in these countries, you would see that the country is not really poor but chooses to keep its citizens poor. There are some leaders who are ready to bring good change to these countries, but they lack the power to overthrow the corrupt government that is in power, and world leaders are not making any effort to endorse genuine leaders who can make a positive difference in poor countries. It seems that most of the developed countries are benefiting from these poor and corrupt nations, and if poor and corrupt countries change and have better governments, developed countries won't benefit from them anymore.

I believe that even with the right leaders, it will not be so easy to overthrow corruption and reverse all the damage that has been done in the country especially regarding their economy. It will take a lot of time and it can't be done within just one administration. But I refuse to lose hope for a corrupt country especially one like mine. If not for me, then I hope my country gets fixed for my children and their future chilren as well.

[Gozie51]

You have to understand that countries that are independent are not easily invaded because of mismanagement of national resources which can also be called corruption. Except there are allegation of gross human abuse, genocide etc. But somehow, I still believe that it is about interest that those super power countries have on the country because some country's leadership have done up to the extent of political foreign intervention but yet.... If they are having benefit from those smaller countries and trading is going then they may not have the agenda to overthrow or instigate rebels against the leadership of that country. Take for example Libya during Gaddafi, for whatever reasons, rebels were said to be instigated against him and that led to his death but the ordinary citizens were enjoying while Gaddafi was leading them and today the story there is not as it was.

So maybe it is also about interest. Like they say, you put your money where your mouth is.

[pooya87]

That's not something you can generalize and discuss like this. I believe this subject can only be discussed on a case by case basis. For example the corruption that exists in El Salvador is waaaay different from the corruption that exists in the United States. They both have high poverty rate (US actually banned any reports on poverty rate to cover it up).

When the nature of corruption and depth of it is different, fighting it becomes different as well.
You also have to remember that there is a very important difference between a corrupt system and a system with corruption. Lets put it this way: all political systems have corruption but only a handful are corrupt. Only the corrupt ones need to be overthrown.

[Plaguedeath]

It's correct, but I think many people life are getting better every year, many people even choose to not getting married or child free if they don't have a good financial. Many citizen now are trying to attack the government to fix the unfairness in their country.

This is the hardest part because even there are a lot people who can attack the government, there's no guarantee it will change.

People in developing country have poor mindset. They never think to vote for the better life, but voting for the money. They always welcomed politicians who did money politics. Things worsen when they never had intention to change their mindset. It makes the same cycle happened everytime, and corruption exist forever.

Unfortunately they have limited knowledge and they lack of money, so we can't really blame them to support politicians who provide them money. 

[yhiaali3]

My friend, we live in a world full of conflicts and contradictions. Here the law of the jungle prevails, where the strong eat the weak. Therefore never expect that the rich powerful countries will extend a helping hand to poor countries.

We cannot blame the rich countries, because each country seeks its own interests. Consequently, they benefit from the persistence of these poor countries in their poverty and corruption. These countries are rich in natural resources and underground wealth, which allows the rich countries to exploit them without much effort. Therefore, they do nothing to bring about change in these countries, but rather work secretly to maintain the status quo or worsen it.

[el kaka22]

There is a cultural reason for most of them. When you live in a nation that goes from "a kingdom back in history" to "colonized by western power and ruled by them for century or more" to "given democracy by the colonizers" you realize, there are people at the top even before west leaves that nation.

You think that when UK invaded and pillaged all resources of a nation, they did not pick a few families that grew into power and did everything via those? Check back in history, in many cases when UK left a nation, there was already a lot of powerful people who were at the top, richer than all the rest of the nation. So those got the power, and did all they could to stay in power. Corruption stayed as a way of living there because of it, they never had to learn democracy and its value by civil wars and riots and rebellions like western democracy did.

[slapper]

Sometimes I imagine why countries are poor and corrupt for a very long time, and you can see that the people in nations like this are so tired of the corruption and bad governance in their country, but they can't change anything even with all the effort they have put in over a long time. These countries can be called poor nations because of the high rate of poverty among the population, but looking at the resources and revenue found in these countries, you would see that the country is not really poor but chooses to keep its citizens poor. There are some leaders who are ready to bring good change to these countries, but they lack the power to overthrow the corrupt government that is in power, and world leaders are not making any effort to endorse genuine leaders who can make a positive difference in poor countries. It seems that most of the developed countries are benefiting from these poor and corrupt nations, and if poor and corrupt countries change and have better governments, developed countries won't benefit from them anymore.

It is a sad thing that even when the people gained independence, most leaders only adopted the architecture and replaced the foreigners with their own elites. They will protest and even revolt but as you pointed out replacement is almost impossible because of structural power. Elections become theater. Change becomes cosmetic

And it suits the developed countries, of course. Oil is more affordable when purchased in weak regimes. Rare minerals for smartphones and EVs cost less when the mining conditions are desperate. Ironically, the aid programs tend to give money back to the donor country contractors and banks in form of recycling. Stability is preached, but dependency is the underlying policy

That is why the idea of such a choice in keeping citizens poor is agonizingly correct. And the silence of global powers is complicit

[Hewlet]

It seems that most of the developed countries are benefiting from these poor and corrupt nations, and if poor and corrupt countries change and have better governments, developed countries won't benefit from them anymore.

Rather than always pushing the blame to developed countries as the reason why underdeveloped countries are still struggling in poverty, it is best to know that it is a character flaw on the part of the leadership of such countries that makes them feel comfortable even though their nation is struggling economically and they are doing well in the midst of a decaying economy. in a generation where everyone is supposed to fully know his right as a nation, it is rather disheartening to even think that  a nation will be playing a blame game rather than taking full responsibility of their lives.

The era of colonization has longed gone and in this modern era, every nation is responsible for whatever situation they are currently in. the ones that are doing well don't have two heads, they only accepted to take responsibility of their national growth and positive result came out in the long run.

[Findingnemo]

Well, all blame is on the people who keep picking the same corrupt ones again and again.

Corruption exists everywhere and in certain countries it is just too much that the whole world is aware of it but not really any change is possible because the corrupton is passing on all their working system and needs a complete overhaul in the government and beuracracy to make the changes but as said it is not an easy and need to unite and make the necessary acts.

But everyone needs to survive right and for that they need to work and this is how the politicians keeping them busy with their own survival while they just lott everything possible on the top level.

[9ja Amaka]

They both have high poverty rate (US actually banned any reports on poverty rate to cover it up).

When we talk about the rich in US America we are referring to the Asian Americans. The US census Bureau and Research data has proven that Asian Americans households have the highest income higher than the White, Black or Hispanic households. The rate of poverty is high because the cost of living is high there too. They have the highest college and postgraduate degrees students in the US. Where I come from there is a saying that ' you can only be a king in your own land". This is the case of the White's in the US. You only see them fighting for political powers but the people making the money flow and the strength on which they rely on are immigrants from the 90's that have based on their soil. If we separate the immigrants from the native and white Americans, every sector they boast about will drop on chart drastically.

When the nature of corruption and depth of it is different, fighting it becomes different as well.
You also have to remember that there is a very important difference between a corrupt system and a system with corruption. Lets put it this way: all political systems have corruption but only a handful are corrupt. Only the corrupt ones need to be overthrown.

You are absolutely right here.
There is a big difference between a group of persons that are corrupt inside a functioning system in a country and country that is generally accepted to be corrupted in all their ways. We can literally spot the differences if we look at how they are being affected and not just focusing on scandals.

[retreat]

It is the responsibility of these countries to change their conditions. There's no need to expect other countries, especially developed ones, to help them eradicate poverty and corruption, because those other countries only hope for the worst so they can exploit their resources. So what these countries need are structural reforms and leaders with revolutionary thinking, the best who can build and develop their countries for the better, as well as support from the people to advance their nation and country.

[asriloni]

People in developing country have poor mindset. They never think to vote for the better life, but voting for the money. They always welcomed politicians who did money politics. Things worsen when they never had intention to change their mindset. It makes the same cycle happened everytime, and corruption exist forever.

Unfortunately they have limited knowledge and they lack of money, so we can't really blame them to support politicians who provide them money. 

I'm sorry, but they deserve the blame. They sold their vote every 5 years just for $3 - $5 bucks. It's hard not to blame them caused by their stupidity. Their mindset only help corruption is thriving.