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Shareholder values was declared out dated in 2019 Forbes published an article: Why Maximizing Shareholder Value Is Finally Dying https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2019/08/19/why-maximizing-shareholder-value-is-finally-dying/Is the start up surge a result of that? To have failed is an advantage: There are more than 150 million startups worldwide, of which 1.14 million startups are in the United States. Global venture funding totaled $91 billion in Q2 2025. 1,400 startups globally hold the unicorn badge. SpaceX is the most successful startup with $350 billion valuation. The global startup failure rate is 90%. First-time founders have a startup success rate of 18%. Business owners who failed in the past have a slightly higher startup success rate of 20%. One-third of the startups fail due to the lack of product demand. The average cost of starting a business is $40,000. https://www.demandsage.com/startup-statistics/Only 10% To 20% Of The Startups Become Successful In The Long Run First-time business owners have a success rate of 18%. While, the business owners who failed in the past have a slightly higher startup success rate. On the other hand, business owners who have had a successful startup in the past have a success rate of around 30%. Most successful startup owners claim they have the relevant qualifications and experience to run their own business. source: https://smallbiztrends.com/startup-statistics/Who volunteers some input?
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Is the start up surge a result of that?
Yes it is. Ventures used starts up to flip their money. They mostly forced CEO to fully focusing in how to maximize their shares value instead to care more about how to ensure their product get market demand. Starts up built something in order just to increase company shares value to provide exit liq for the ventures. Meanwhile, their product have not enough demand who will pay for it. In the end, it makes start up can't survive.
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Is the start up surge a result of that?
Yes it is. Ventures used starts up to flip their money. They mostly forced CEO to fully focusing in how to maximize their shares value instead to care more about how to ensure their product get market demand. Starts up built something in order just to increase company shares value to provide exit liq for the ventures. Meanwhile, their product have not enough demand who will pay for it. In the end, it makes start up can't survive. Does this also applies for startups made by individuals who have no great support from any bodies? We all know about startup investors who are full time busy looking for good projects that are with good potentials to reach a certain level of success. They finance multiple projects despite they expect more than 90% won't be that successful. But the know if just one of those startups booms, it will cover all the loss expenses for the failed projects. This model is working well and startup entrepreneus without financial support rely on those investors.
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These figures are just strange and dramatizations. I don't believe you can call "Space X" a startup at this point, it is a maturing business with valuable assets and plenty of long term contracts. Which makes me question the rest of the statistics too. The fact that America only has half a percent of the worlds start up companies actually seems rather low, as they are usually pioneering in this area. also, what is the definition of a start up in use? Is it just a business that is under a year old? I'd hazard that most people here might associate startups with IT, because you can have services like a barbers that will fail for a bunch of different reasons to a software company. It feels like too broad a scope to give an insightful feedback, unless you define it a bit better.
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Failure is not final if you learn lesson and keep going. Many successful business or inventions once failed but become successful when people don't give up. Failure comes with lots of valuable experiences that would be used in future to run startups. New business owners might make mistakes that will have an adverse effect on the business; this is why the failure rate is relatively high. I am just recalling how my poultry business faced financial problems in the first year. I never knew that I could sell the fowl droppings to farmers, which would be used as manure. I also didn't know that some parts of the animal could be used for different purposes. I was busy disposing of them, and it affected my profit. After about one year, I gained more knowledge and began to make a profit.
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Failure is not final if you learn lesson and keep going. Many successful business or inventions once failed but become successful when people don't give up. Failure comes with lots of valuable experiences that would be used in future to run startups. New business owners might make mistakes that will have an adverse effect on the business; this is why the failure rate is relatively high. I am just recalling how my poultry business faced financial problems in the first year. I never knew that I could sell the fowl droppings to farmers, which would be used as manure. I also didn't know that some parts of the animal could be used for different purposes. I was busy disposing of them, and it affected my profit. After about one year, I gained more knowledge and began to make a profit. I have seen people in my life who work hard all their lives and achieve nothing and I have also seen people who do not work hard and achieve great success. This is a natural system but it is widely believed that you can achieve a lot with hard work but sometimes hard work does not succeed and some work is also based on luck. That is why to do it well, our previous hard work makes us better than before which protects us from mistakes. It was our own luck based on hard work and thinking due to which you will succeed and you also had to go through some problems. There are many such things that we do not know but when we think with good thinking, we get such very profitable things in which you have succeeded.
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I have seen people in my life who work hard all their lives and achieve nothing and I have also seen people who do not work hard and achieve great success.
The ones who work hard have priorities foreign to success, kids, vacations, cars, girls, alcohol you name it. The one who don't work cater for relations which could finance an idea, get people who work hard to implement the idea and make money. Just a theory.
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I have seen people in my life who work hard all their lives and achieve nothing and I have also seen people who do not work hard and achieve great success. This is a natural system but it is widely believed that you can achieve a lot with hard work but sometimes hard work does not succeed and some work is also based on luck. That is why to do it well, our previous hard work makes us better than before which protects us from mistakes. It was our own luck based on hard work and thinking due to which you will succeed and you also had to go through some problems. There are many such things that we do not know but when we think with good thinking, we get such very profitable things in which you have succeeded.
So what are you insinuating, we shouldn't work hard and depend solely on luck? I also know several people who became poor because they believed success is not a product of diligence but luck. So they depend on gambling, religious exercise and begging to acquire wealth. You don't just work hard but smart. You should always strive to improve yourself and invest wisely. You can start as a labourer in an organisation, but don't spend your entire life in that position. Seek ways to advance your knowledge and skills so that you can be promoted and earn higher. However, I am not disputing the fact that some people might be lucky to inherit wealth or win a jackpot, while others have failed not because of laziness. But we should surrender our future to fate.
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Failure is not final if you learn lesson and keep going. Many successful business or inventions once failed but become successful when people don't give up. Failure comes with lots of valuable experiences that would be used in future to run startups. New business owners might make mistakes that will have an adverse effect on the business; this is why the failure rate is relatively high. I am just recalling how my poultry business faced financial problems in the first year. I never knew that I could sell the fowl droppings to farmers, which would be used as manure. I also didn't know that some parts of the animal could be used for different purposes. I was busy disposing of them, and it affected my profit. After about one year, I gained more knowledge and began to make a profit. I have no problem with everything you said, mind you I just want you to know that we are in a wild West world called crypto space, some developers intentionally come up with unfinished ideas to raise money and quit on the half way, I have seen too many of them failed this year. They raised crazy amount of money and the product they offers isn't even going to need that much money, if crypto space is a well regulated place many of them would have been arrested and face the panel already. This is why I don't like Trump been elected, crypto space will need a lot of cleansing after Trump reign is finally over.
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I have seen people in my life who work hard all their lives and achieve nothing and I have also seen people who do not work hard and achieve great success. This is a natural system but it is widely believed that you can achieve a lot with hard work but sometimes hard work does not succeed and some work is also based on luck. That is why to do it well, our previous hard work makes us better than before which protects us from mistakes. It was our own luck based on hard work and thinking due to which you will succeed and you also had to go through some problems. There are many such things that we do not know but when we think with good thinking, we get such very profitable things in which you have succeeded.
So what are you insinuating, we shouldn't work hard and depend solely on luck? I also know several people who became poor because they believed success is not a product of diligence but luck. So they depend on gambling, religious exercise and begging to acquire wealth. You don't just work hard but smart. You should always strive to improve yourself and invest wisely. You can start as a labourer in an organisation, but don't spend your entire life in that position. Seek ways to advance your knowledge and skills so that you can be promoted and earn higher. However, I am not disputing the fact that some people might be lucky to inherit wealth or win a jackpot, while others have failed not because of laziness. But we should surrender our future to fate. You need to be serious in life in order for to become successful. If you don't work hard with determination on achieving your goal, you might miss the luck waiting for you. I could remember how I worked hard tirelessly just to put food on the table for my family. I was doing a job that pays less compared to my contribution to the company and I was happy with it and at the same time looking at other means to improve my income. I became lucky and met someone that came around in my workplace who connected me to the job that I am doing now and I am happy because the pay of my new job is good and I have enough leftover after meeting up with my monthly needs and expenses.
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They raised crazy amount of money and the product they offers isn't even going to need that much money, if crypto space is a well regulated place many of them would have been arrested and face the panel already.
No regulation will save you from that. The investors should ask some question and get a revaluation.
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The good part about all of that is the part where previously failed people have a higher rate of success. I can see why, when you run a business, and fail, you realize why it failed and you prevent that ever happening again and even if you are doing a business on something totally unrelated, you end up with something different this time around.
So learning from mistakes is a great help, even if you failed once, if you do end up with a chance to fix it, then you are going to fix it and be better next time. Sometimes people even get better within the same business, without bankrupting, they start bad but learn and grow and be great. That is why I think we should be considering how important trying and doing again means.
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October 03, 2025, 06:20:10 PM |
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They raised crazy amount of money and the product they offers isn't even going to need that much money, if crypto space is a well regulated place many of them would have been arrested and face the panel already.
No regulation will save you from that. The investors should ask some question and get a revaluation. Exactly, that's why they keep doing it, because no regulation can really safe investors from getting milked by bad and fake developers in crypto space, this is why I don't invest in startups, I can see what CZ is doing lately, personally pumping all projects that raised money through their exchange to draw attention. I think startups should learn from this, in the past many projects that made it to top 100 are mostly from Binance launchpad, Polygon and Harmony was one of them, there are many more that became successful, the difference is they gain loads of attention using the exchange reputation, the same thing will happen this time again. Today people don't want to work harder, they have a dream but they look for the fastest way of achieving the dream.
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October 03, 2025, 07:21:49 PM Last edit: October 03, 2025, 09:39:01 PM by WillyAp |
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this is why I don't invest in startups,
Today people don't want to work harder, they have a dream but they look for the fastest way of achieving the dream.
Hopefully not forever. Active Investors are needed. Some people still do, they become soft though once investments come in. The decisive moment an active investor makes the difference.
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October 03, 2025, 08:03:41 PM |
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The good part about all of that is the part where previously failed people have a higher rate of success. I can see why, when you run a business, and fail, you realize why it failed and you prevent that ever happening again and even if you are doing a business on something totally unrelated, you end up with something different this time around.
Oh yes, especially in business domains. We maily learn from mistakes more than we learn from successful stories. This because everybody practice business in his own way so he can realize where/when/how he commited fatal mistakes and the most important is to learn the way how to fix and overcome them. I would always suggest to follow failed business stories and try to spot at the causes leading to failure.
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