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September 28, 2025, 09:08:44 PM
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Bitcoin miner TeraWulf is making a bold move, seeking $3 billion in debt financing to scale out its data center infrastructure, with support from Google, which now owns about 14% of the firm. The funding, expected to be arranged by Morgan Stanley, will primarily support expansion at TeraWulf’s Lake Mariner campus in New York.

This comes on the heels of a $3.7B, 10-year AI compute deal with FluidStack, a contract that could expand to $8.7B if fully exercised. That agreement also strengthened Google’s position, providing a $3.2B backstop and boosting its stake in TeraWulf.

The strategy reflects a wider trend: AI + Bitcoin mining convergence. Mining firms like TeraWulf and Cipher (which just announced a similar $3B FluidStack deal backed by Google) are positioning themselves not just as miners, but as AI compute providers in a market hungry for data center capacity.

For Bitcoin miners, this diversification could be critical, offering new revenue streams that aren’t tied directly to BTC price cycles. While TeraWulf stock (WULF) hasn’t surged on the news, down ~1.3% this week, the scale of these AI partnerships hints at a longer-term re-rating of the sector.

Bottom line: Bitcoin miners are no longer just about blocks and hashes, they’re becoming infrastructure players at the heart of AI and digital finance. Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?
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September 28, 2025, 09:27:02 PM
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Bottom line: Bitcoin miners are no longer just about blocks and hashes, they’re becoming infrastructure players at the heart of AI and digital finance. Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?

No worries at all on these, after the entire bitcoin has been mined completely, miners will earn from the transaction fees as rewards, while it's not a bad idea as you have suggested, that some could actually get on their hands doing additional things to help increase their income source, but not because bitcoin is no longer rewarding to miners, but for them to utilize on other opportunities for additional earning opportunities.

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September 29, 2025, 01:57:55 PM
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Bitcoin miner TeraWulf is making a bold move, seeking $3 billion in debt financing to scale out its data center infrastructure, with support from Google, which now owns about 14% of the firm. The funding, expected to be arranged by Morgan Stanley, will primarily support expansion at TeraWulf’s Lake Mariner campus in New York.

This comes on the heels of a $3.7B, 10-year AI compute deal with FluidStack, a contract that could expand to $8.7B if fully exercised. That agreement also strengthened Google’s position, providing a $3.2B backstop and boosting its stake in TeraWulf.

The strategy reflects a wider trend: AI + Bitcoin mining convergence. Mining firms like TeraWulf and Cipher (which just announced a similar $3B FluidStack deal backed by Google) are positioning themselves not just as miners, but as AI compute providers in a market hungry for data center capacity.

For Bitcoin miners, this diversification could be critical, offering new revenue streams that aren’t tied directly to BTC price cycles. While TeraWulf stock (WULF) hasn’t surged on the news, down ~1.3% this week, the scale of these AI partnerships hints at a longer-term re-rating of the sector.

Bottom line: Bitcoin miners are no longer just about blocks and hashes, they’re becoming infrastructure players at the heart of AI and digital finance. Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?

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October 01, 2025, 07:03:35 PM
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Yes, Bitcoin miners are actively finding alternatives. With most of the Bitcoin already mined, they're using their massive data centers and cheap energy for a new business: providing computing power for artificial intelligence (AI).

This is a smart move. It gives them a steady income that doesn't depend on the price of Bitcoin, making their business more stable for the long term.
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October 06, 2025, 02:25:54 AM
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Bitcoin miner TeraWulf is making a bold move, seeking $3 billion in debt financing to scale out its data center infrastructure, with support from Google, which now owns about 14% of the firm. The funding, expected to be arranged by Morgan Stanley, will primarily support expansion at TeraWulf’s Lake Mariner campus in New York.

This comes on the heels of a $3.7B, 10-year AI compute deal with FluidStack, a contract that could expand to $8.7B if fully exercised. That agreement also strengthened Google’s position, providing a $3.2B backstop and boosting its stake in TeraWulf.

The strategy reflects a wider trend: AI + Bitcoin mining convergence. Mining firms like TeraWulf and Cipher (which just announced a similar $3B FluidStack deal backed by Doodle Baseball Google) are positioning themselves not just as miners, but as AI compute providers in a market hungry for data center capacity.

For Bitcoin miners, this diversification could be critical, offering new revenue streams that aren’t tied directly to BTC price cycles. While TeraWulf stock (WULF) hasn’t surged on the news, down ~1.3% this week, the scale of these AI partnerships hints at a longer-term re-rating of the sector.

Bottom line: Bitcoin miners are no longer just about blocks and hashes, they’re becoming infrastructure players at the heart of AI and digital finance. Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?
TeraWulf’s move signals a major pivot from pure Bitcoin mining toward AI and high-performance computing infrastructure. By leveraging its existing energy and data center assets for AI workloads, TeraWulf (and others like Cipher) are diversifying revenue beyond BTC block rewards — a hedge against halving events and market downturns.

For Bitcoin, this trend could mean:

Reduced sell pressure — miners with alternative income sources may sell less BTC to cover costs.

Greater network resilience — miners staying profitable even during low BTC prices.

Strategic shift — mining firms evolving into broader digital infrastructure providers, linking crypto and AI economies.

TeraWulf’s financing shows how Bitcoin miners are adapting for long-term sustainability in a world where pure mining margins are tightening.
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October 06, 2025, 06:04:33 AM
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in the olden days of the US wild west gold era.. many people learned when the gold nuggets reduced to gold dust and mining became more expensive, the profits came from selling the mining equipment not the labour of doing the mining

bitmain learned this a decade ago, and now other mining companies too

if you can make a shovel for $0.25 in the 1800's and sell it for $2 you have already 8x your profit before even digging a hole
if you can build an asic for $500 and sell it for $4k you have already 8x your profit before a single hash is hashed

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as for people thinking that a bitcoin ASIC is going to do some AI stuff in its market downtime..  need to learn an asics circuitry design is optimised purely to hash, so its not really going to offer any real support for other AI projects/diferent code/algo stuff thats nothing to do with SHA hashing.

the whole "data centre" wording is not about using AI equipment to hash bitcoin(insufficiently). nor about using bitcoin asics to do AI algo stuff. its about having a building/warehouse with enough electricity supply, fibre internet and racking/shelving to house bitcoin asics.
its more about a facility name for a building with enough cables and racks.. its not about the function of "data"

google renting a building is guaranteed monthly lease rental income no matter the bitcoin market, no matter the hashrate or difficulty of mining.
many companies are building data centres but then dont have enough data companies leasing the building, so atleast leasing it to bitcoin miners is an income they wouldnt have had if they only leased to data companies


as for the impact to bitcoin
instead of a bitcoin mining company needing to plan ahead any expansion where they would need to build a facility as a upfront lump sum. they instead simply sign a lease agreement of a already built facility, which means they can expand sooner/faster/cheaper. also they dont need to pay real estate developers $Xm for a build but spread the cost over Xyears lease of 2-4 year contracts, so that its not a huge expense per expansion upfront
this can mean that bitcoin mining companies can wait out the storms of volatile markets by spreading the cost. this means they can continually mine even in low market prices because they dont have a huge build cost lingering infront of them but a manageable periodic bill

smart mining businesses wont just sell bitcoin per month to pay the bills but would use an initial lump to cover them for 2 years. and then wait out for the market peaks to then sell to then cater to and supplement the next periods bill, which are still cheaper then complete build-outs of facility costs

so i dont see this causing any change to the economic dynamics already set by by the long term miners already inplace like bitmain and its antpool subsidiaries
it will just result in more expansion(hashrate increase) faster.

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October 06, 2025, 06:24:16 AM
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Bitcoin mining machines, ASICs, are fully specialised and can only mine Bitcoin they cant do anything else. Because of this, miners are largely dependant on users running Bitcoin nodes. If the nodes were to reach a consensus to change the hash rate , all those ASIC machines worth billions could become useless.This is why miners must carefully monitor the network and act in accordance with the consensus of the nodes otherwise they risk huge loss. In a way, miners are at the mercy of the node runners because they set the rules within Bitcoin network.

Yes, it is possible that some miners may one day stop mining Bitcoin and shift to other businesses, such as AI computing, but not all of them will Some small or inefficient miners will likely stop as the block reward decreases and we shift to transaction fees, but large and modern mining centers will most likely remain active.

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October 06, 2025, 11:18:06 AM
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Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?
I don't think this is the case. Terawulf it's only launching another business line besides mining. There no limit to creativity and business expansion. They took the money to expand their data centers to facilitate a better AI business too maybe utilize the same electricity. It's really good to think big, innovative and make more money even if it entails launching a sister business model. Who knows maybe they would use this business model to sustain their mining activity for a longtime.

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Bottom line: Bitcoin miners are no longer just about blocks and hashes, they’re becoming infrastructure players at the heart of AI and digital finance. Are BTC miners thinking of alternatives already since there are only about 1.26 million BTC to be mined?

No worries at all on these, after the entire bitcoin has been mined completely, miners will earn from the transaction fees as rewards, while it's not a bad idea as you have suggested, that some could actually get on their hands doing additional things to help increase their income source, but not because bitcoin is no longer rewarding to miners, but for them to utilize on other opportunities for additional earning opportunities.
Already from the genesis miners has been receiving incentives after new blocks are mined and also from transaction fees after executing successful transaction orders. So them earning on the transaction fees will not be a new phase for miners after no more new blocks to be added to the Blockchain.

What happens is that... Their rewards will be minimized on that course and while transaction fees may increase as Bitcoin price may also be increasing, such is how their rewards on solving puzzles in facilitating successful and secured Blockchain may also increase.

Diversifying of how to maximize their rewards to be profitable in the crypto industry could be a different thing which is literally individuals challenges.











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