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pooya as always takes narratives aimed at tehran and its proxies and tries to then flip it to their opposition such as the word axis does not apply to nato but does apply to iran
as is hama's desires for wanting as much death as possible including training kids for battle, teaching them to be pawns, sacrifices and martyrs. aswell as hamas troops and leaders dragging their own family members with hem into urban battle zones
pooya does not want peace he loves the tehran/houthi/hamas agenda of making the middle-east fully arabian
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Something that is going to go higher now that many on the peace flotilla (Sumud) were taken hostage by Israeli terrorists and have been tortured.
One of flotilla vessel activist who was released from Israel prison tells that "we have good passports and we have ambassador representation in Israel despite that the Israel treated us with inhumanity. They denied access to medicines, drinkable water was given after 32 hours, the police come to our cells after every 2 hours with dogs barking at us and guns pointed towards us all this is done to prevent us from sleep. If they are doing this to us then imagine what they do with helpless Palestinians. " These self claimed "God Chosen" people can go to any low. Just imagine yourself or your family undergoing such treatment, only then one can understand the pain of people of Palestine. There is Pakistani Senator also in Flotilla Vessels and he is still not released from Israeli illegal detention. The activist who are from EU or USA are released while others are still held illegally.
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Something that is going to go higher now that many on the peace flotilla (Sumud) were taken hostage by Israeli terrorists and have been tortured.
One of flotilla vessel activist who was released from Israel prison tells that "we have good passports and we have ambassador representation in Israel despite that the Israel treated us with inhumanity. They denied access to medicines, drinkable water was given after 32 hours, the police come to our cells after every 2 hours with dogs barking at us and guns pointed towards us all this is done to prevent us from sleep. If they are doing this to us then imagine what they do with helpless Palestinians. " These self claimed "God Chosen" people can go to any low. Just imagine yourself or your family undergoing such treatment, only then one can understand the pain of people of Palestine. There is Pakistani Senator also in Flotilla Vessels and he is still not released from Israeli illegal detention. The activist who are from EU or USA are released while others are still held illegally. The Pakistan senator that was arrested and detained by Israeli terrorists forces was Former Pakistani Senator Mushtaq Ahmad Khan but he has been released today from captivity. Ex senator Mushtag released from terrorists Den was confirmed by Deputy prime Minister Ishaq IDAr in his official X handle today, "I am pleased to confirm that former Senator Mushtaq has been released and is now safely with Pakistan Embassy in Amman. He is in good health and high spirits. The Embassy stands ready to facilitate his return to Pakistan, in accordance with his wishes and convenience. Am pleased to extend our gratitude to all our friendly countries who actively engaged and assisted in this behalf to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Pakistan". https://tribune.com.pk/story/2571069/former-senator-mushtaq-ahmad-released-from-israeli-captivity-arrives-in-jordan-darEX SENATOR Mushtag was a on a humanitarian service to supply medicine and food to Gaza, that was his offence for his arrests. If an Ex senator can be humiliated and treated like a common criminal for committing no offense, isn't this proof that Israeli forces are the real terrorists and not Hamas.
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terrorists forces .. captivity. .. terrorists Den
funny part is how you use such buzzwords Am pleased to extend our gratitude to all our friendly countries who actively engaged and assisted in this behalf to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Pakistan".
funny part is how you think other countries were active and assisted in the release EX SENATOR Mushtag was a on a humanitarian service to supply medicine and food to Gaza, that was his offence for his arrests.
funny part is how you think his vessel was full of aid If an Ex senator can be humiliated and treated like a common criminal for committing no offense, isn't this proof that Israeli forces are the real terrorists and not Hamas.
funny part is how you think he didnt break any laws funny how you admit you dont think hamas are terrorists.. but atleast you admit whos ass you kiss
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The fact that the NATO-Zionist Axis has intensified the bombardment of Gaza and has focused on slaughtering children over the past couple of days ever since Trump put up that nonsense proves what I said in my first comment that this was a genocide proposal and had nothing to do with peace. Trump was just trying to buy time for the Zionist terrorists and decrease the public pressure specially now that the number of people in Western capitals who protest against these Western genocide enabling regimes has reached an all time high. Something that is going to go higher now that many on the peace flotilla (Sumud) were taken hostage by Israeli terrorists and have been tortured. Maybe they want Gaza so they could build their bases their for easy access in the middle East. So many children had lost their lives as a result of this war and I plainly see this as a genocide on the people of Gaza. The world is seeing everything that is happening in Gaza and how bombs are being dropped their to reduce the population of the Palestinians. This is the current situation in GazaMany families are lost and those that are alive had lost all their properties, access to food, portable clean water, shelters and others that are main basic amenities for human survival. With all these there is still continuous bombing of those areas women and children are staying to shelter themselves. Winter is coming, no food for them, no water, no medication/medical cares for these people. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Impact of the war on Children in Gaza | | | Estimated number | | | | Palestine children reportedly killed (Gaza) | | | 14,500 | | | | Palestine children injured (Gaza, as of April 2024) | | | 24,000 | | | | Children in need of humanitarian assistance | | | 1,554,700 | | | | Palestine children displaced in Gaza | | | 990,000 | | | | Estimated unaccompanied and Separated children in Gaza | | | 17,000 | | | | Attacks on health in the Gaza Strip | | | 1,106 | | | | Children out of learning in the Gaza Strip | | | 658,760 | | | | School buildings in the Gaza Strip have been directly hit or damaged | | | 87.4 % | | | | Children in Gaza affected by malnutrition(Projection 2024) | | | 500,400 | | | | Palestine children injured (West Bank, including East Jerusalem) | | | 1,047 | | |
This was based on 2024 estimate on war on children in GazaIf you think about it, it is not even possible to have peace with radicals who think they are the "chosen race" and are superior to other human beings while calling others Amalek (which is a very similar concept to what Nazis called Untermensch). It would be like trying to have peace with the Nazis! Therefore as long as the Zionist regime exists and its terrorist chiefs like Smotrich believe and announce that "International law does not apply to Jews because they are the chosen people" (regardless of the fact that Zionists are not even Jews) there won't be any peace. It pissed me off why the Isreal government has refused the entering of humanitarian aid to Gaza through the flotilla. I saw the way the Israeli soldiers are detaining those humanitarians bringing aids to Gaza. You can check this video to see the extend of this war on children and families. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUY4yHmS/ Gaza has been flattened!
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pooya does not want peace he loves the tehran/houthi/hamas agenda of making the middle-east fully arabian
Why would a predominantly Persian country want the entire Middle East to be Arab? You like to consider yourself an expert on clans, factions and tribes, yet you don’t even know very basic facts.
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pooya does not want peace he loves the tehran/houthi/hamas agenda of making the middle-east fully arabian
Why would a predominantly Persian country want the entire Middle East to be Arab? You like to consider yourself an expert on clans, factions and tribes, yet you don’t even know very basic facts. firstly im trying to dumb things down when i umbrella mix the factions because some idiots dont like walls of texts. but if you want the more detailed explanation(again) because they(arab&persian) share the muslim culture, so first rid the area of the jewish,hebrew,christian,english cultures, secondly, why do you think persians would risk persian lives when they can just sponsor arabs to be martyrs*. and then swoop in later on and then leave it for a fight between factions of arab vs persian, or atleast share the land as pure muslim territory *learn why houthi, hamas are called tehran's proxies. aka pawns/expendables it like why did the british empire want the middle east to be arab/israeli, when it was owned by the turks(ottoman) in the 1900's.. the british empire made promises to both arab and jew's that if they fight off the ottoman, the arabs and jews will get the land as separate double dealing promises in the 1900's the brits promised the land to both arabs and to jews.. but then the brits controlled it in the 1920's-1940's whilst faking that it was a promised arab('palestine') brand land for ~25 years. and then brits gave it to israeli's in the late 1940's even now the ex british empire->league of nations->UN are still getting their fingers in the pie via unrwa $multibillion deals im a brit and even i can admit to the crap historical brit leaders, and my current PM keir is involved in and also ex-PM tony blair are involved in when it comes to $$profits of war but i do find it funny how certain idiots in this forum are ass kissing and trying to hide hamas's involvement and hamas's sponsors involvement of using palestinians as pawns/martyrs/human shields first.. and using israelis as the distracting narrative of whom has caused so much collateral damage due to cowardly urban warfare setting instead of desert/border guard setting of war there is alot more context to the whole scenario thats played out over the last 100 years, and last 20 years and last 2 years. but until you can take the first step of recognising hamas's atrocious acts in the last 2 years, your not ready to then work backwards to see the money flows and promises made and the actual puppeteers for profit and property. and definitely not ready to see what is going to happen in the next 2 to 20 years involving the future fights between the arab(sunni) and persian(shia) groups
even though gaza will be given to the muslim cultures** there will be alot of profits swaping hands with each redevelopment and then each skirmish there after, fighting over the new property/land ** even when hamas are removed. there will then be more fighting between different factions of muslims(arab&persian mix). first the syrian/jordanian/yemen terror groups will restart war over the canaan area as tehran sponsored proxies. then the tehran regime will just take control .. imagine the tehran regime repeating british empires 1900's playbook.. tehran making promises and funding both sunni and shia factions to fight and martyr as proxies to rid the region of israeli-jews, promising both sunni ands shia groups the land.. but then later controlled by tehran .. notice how the tehran/houthi(shia) groups are more remotely operating but then using the sunni groups(syrian, jordanian,Pa,hamas) as the front line terror groups and using PA/palestinians as martyrs
the british/US coalition(ex league of nations and now UN) dont want to own/govern the middle east, they just want to profit from the skirmishes and redevelopment deals the tehan regime and the arab league will continue to fight and have skirmishes between each other, even after this hamas drama is over
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Apart from the peace deals (they aren't transparent and have hidden agendas) and the current situation the gaza I have just one thing to say, maybe it's not directly related but a great singer Michael Jackson once made a song on peace and his words mean a lot and if everyone could make this world a better place.
Some of those lyrics if I recall them correctly,
"Make this world a better place for you and for me and for generations to come, let's make it for you and for me and for the entire generations"
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Apart from the peace deals (they aren't transparent and have hidden agendas) and the current situation the gaza I have just one thing to say, maybe it's not directly related but a great singer Michael Jackson once made a song on peace and his words mean a lot and if everyone could make this world a better place.
Some of those lyrics if I recall them correctly,
"Make this world a better place for you and for me and for generations to come, let's make it for you and for me and for the entire generations"
You cannot make peace with a nihilist death cult who wants to kill anyone who does not agree with their jihadi way of life. Their false teachings tell them Christians, Jews and non believers are infidels that must "convert" to their fanaticism. Both Jihadi fanaticism and Marxism are the same ilk using different methods of attack and subversion. Both them and their global funders/sponsors are a threat to global peace and every citizen of goodwill on earth.
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tehran/houthi/hamas agenda of making the middle-east fully arabian
This shows extreme levels of ignorance from your side (as always) becasue Iranians are not Arabs and your claim should be "making the middle-east fully Persian'. With that said, your heavily equipped army has lost the war against the real land owners with Ak-47s and home made explosivs, no hostages were released by force, no end of hamas, nothing but a forever lasting curse on Israel and it's supporters for commiting a genocide, many people who were brainwashed by the Mossad are now aware of the truth (with the exception of paid trolls like yourself). I know you would have wanted this to go on forever because it is obvious that you enjoy the suffering and the death of all Palestinians including women and children, don't worry tho, Israelis will keep on doing that just not in the same scale, just back to pre-oct 7th when they used to kill only a few hunderds instead of tens of thousands. Free palestine.
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mikeywith is just an idiot
much like how the british wanted to use other groups as the frontline soldiers.. promising the land to arabians AND israeli.. , its a multi-phase game as explained in other post, tehran are playing british empires playbook first make promises to 2 groups to get them to be the soldiers/martyrs and then take over.. fake promising it to one group, and then give it to the other group after a couple decades
its obvious the idiots i keep calling out use certain buzzwords.. but underneath their fluff they dont support the peaceful people, they support the jihadi/terrorist/extremists actions
.. the population of gaza was above 2m 2 years ago, and still is over 2m today. so not a genocide plot by israel the israeli's could have attacked gaza without warning the peaceful unarmed population if they intended on genocide the israeli's could've locked the borders without food for 2 years, if they intended on genocide but instead sent more then 2 years worth of food into gaza out of the <70k deaths. that number is not simply <70k of innocent casualties of war. its co-mingled number of deaths unrelated to weapon injury, its also includes hamas troops. so stop thinking that israelis were actually targeting and hitting <70k innocent palestinians. israelis were the ones offering all the charters of peace, the treaties, the accords, the ceasefires
hamas stole 85% of the food, hamas are the ones that want maximum martyrs. hamas give no warnings when area's become battlefields hamas made false promises causing more casualties than needed hamas have charters that intend to wipe away an entire race/nation aka genocide hamas have all the buzzwords showing their intent to wipeout race/nations aka genocide
anyway. hamas are pretty much done for now. so i wonder who the idiots are going to support soon. and its becoming obvious there is a next phase about to occur where other persian/arab chess games are at play
if you are the idiot that wants the "from river to sea" agenda, then you are not pro-palestine. you are part of the tehran regime multi-phase chess game of using palestinians as canon fodder.. or atlest a dupe shouting such desires without realising their end game
so do you wish to admit your an idiot not realising the depths of the games at play, or wish to admit you are pro genocide by always wanting the tehran plot ultimate desire .. just remember your time is limited on whom you have left to support in the current phase. so truly ask yourself who are you going to support next. whos ass are you going to kiss hoping they recognise you, hoping they will adore you. because it wont be hamas, so no point covering up hama's atrocious behaviour anymore
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EX SENATOR Mushtag was a on a humanitarian service to supply medicine and food to Gaza, that was his offence for his arrests. If an Ex senator can be humiliated and treated like a common criminal for committing no offense, isn't this proof that Israeli forces are the real terrorists and not Hamas.
The Pakistani senator is released but there are Flotilla activists that are still illegally detained by Israel. The flotilla vessels are intercepted by Israel in international waters and that's one of millions of crimes committed by Israel government. It's important to understand what is Hamas and why people vote and join that organisation. Hamas and other freedom fighting moments of Palestine are composed of local people, who just want a free land where they live a normal life like all of us. Israel has killed almost 70,000 innocent people in Gaza in last two years, what you expect there remaining family members to do? Will they love Israel for that inhuman act. Palestine is a country but they are denied of having a regular army that can defend the people from Israeli atrocities. In absence of regular army, the freedom fighters who fight for rights and safety of people of Palestine are declared terrorist by Israel and it's allies i.e. US and EU. The US and EU has declared Hamas as terrorist but has said nothing to Israel for it's atrocities and genocide in Gaza/West Bank. There is ceasefire in GAZA but there is important statement from Balkees Jarrah, acting Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch, "Palestinians in Gaza will continue to suffer and die so long as Israel maintains its unlawful blockade of the Gaza Strip".
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October 10, 2025, 09:16:35 AM |
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It's important to understand what is Hamas and why people vote and join that organisation. Hamas and other freedom fighting moments of Palestine are composed of local people, who just want a free land where they live a normal life like all of us. Israel has killed almost 70,000 innocent people in Gaza in last two years, what you expect there remaining family members to do? Will they love Israel for that inhuman act.
so many things wrong with your statement the local people dont vote in the political leaders.. there has been no public elections since 2006 the change of leaderships since then has been a internal matter of hamas top leading committee choosing someone from within their ranks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyl3yg7wzzothe 2006 elections were more about separating gaza politically away from westbank governance. there were conflicts between the fetah-hamas over the governance of gaza and the majority chose to not be governed by westbank but set themselves apart.. since then hamas has not allowed further public elections Ismail Haniyeh served as the prime minister of the Palestinian National Authority from March 2006 until June 2014 and the first Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip from June 2007 until February 2017, where he was succeeded by Yahya Sinwar. haniyeh was not actually governing gaza from within gaza, he was cowardly hiding in other countries. and eventually assassinated in iran in 2017 as the BBC link shows, when leadership changes happen the top leadership committee of hamas travel from many different countries(they cowardly hide in) and meet up to choose a replacement when one of them is taken out sinwar(2017-2024) was not some peaceful innocent citizen. he organised the october 7th attack and had other crimes throughout all his life the citizens didnt get to vote him in .. the almost 70k deaths are not almost 70k deaths of innocent people. the majority are hamas troops, their own families and others that hamas threatened, coerced, bribed, false promised, blackmailed to stay in the danger zone next to hamas, instead of taking the warnings to heart and evacuate many of the children had no choice but to stay with their extremist, military,hamas employed parents. yep hamas mindset was that even their own wives and kids are sacrificial lambs, martyrs for the cause and when you look at the "axis of resistance" funding from iran. it all becomes clearer that hamas, houthi, hezbollah and other groups are sponsored by iran you start to see the bigger picture reading hamas's charter from 1988 does not read as a civilian peaceful political doctrine/pledge. but a call for war and genocide ... anyway those still ass kissing hamas need to find a new idol. hamas's days are numberedthere is no reason anymore to ass-kiss and hide hamas's atrocities. they are done, they are over. you have nothing to fear now.. so be honest that they have not helped the actual peaceful palestinians, but made things worse for them, provoking them into experiencing wars. hamas have declined all peace deals for decades and not helped bring peace. but now. this is hamas's end. the whole arabian groups want hamas gone, replaced
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What do we have to say about this, it seems the long awaited peace is happening already and the better we know this that even Netanyahu appreciates the US President for his intervention and this seems to have a signal for the reintroduction of peace back to Gaza and the people are returning back, who is now against who, when there is no mutual understanding, am just happy the people still have the reason more to return back to their homes after all these had been settled and i wish its permanent this time. You can read fruthermore from the link below as at what is ongoing today in Hama. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2nzlj2j4kt
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im looking at all the pictures of gazans celebrating the ceasefire this week.. not looking for if they are calling it a win for whomever.. but purely looking for all the supposed anorexic/gaunt looking starved people of 2 years.. .. i cant really see any that are showing that supposed near death gaunt looking skeletal leanness you would expect from starved people for 2 years
where are all the super malnurished in all these pictures of people running around
also if there is issues of dehydration due to lack of water claims.. where are all the people that should by now be looking like tramps, (dirty clothes, ungroomed, shredded old clothing), chapped lips, dry flaky skin etc
now the ceasefire is on, investigators can now look deeper into gaza and actually get details, away from what hamas health ministry has been propagandising
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update whilst hamas released all 20 alive hostages as a piecemeal stop gap to prolong things, hamas are claiming this ceasefire was the mindchild of hamas wanting peace. hamas are trying to say that israel never tried to win/offer/propose anything. hamas are also not backing down by just hiding in their holes until the next phase. they are now sending their pawns out into the open to kill off palestinians that object/oppose hamas. this alone shows 2 things from hamas point of view a. hamas never cared about palestinians b. hamas still think they have control/governance of gaza and need to fight to retain control, instead of preparing to remove themselves it also shows 2 things from palestinians point of view a. palestinians have/do/are objecting to hamas b. palestinians want hamas out asap as for western media whilst there are many camera's following the red cross for eastern media, the western media is following trump, kushner, witkoff basically a message to the west that a business/real estate deal is getting done today yet not showing the hostages being driven to safety(the main deal point which should be displayed/celebrated today) yep whilst hostages are moving, western media is just showing trumps meetup and conference room where he will make a speach western media middleeastern media  ... hamas just announced "we will not completely fulfil this trump plan, we will stay in power" hamas today started their own domestic civil war against palestinians opposing hamas(facepalm)
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October 13, 2025, 09:57:51 AM |
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im looking at all the pictures of gazans celebrating the ceasefire this week.. not looking for if they are calling it a win for whomever.. but purely looking for all the supposed anorexic/gaunt looking starved people of 2 years.. .. i cant really see any that are showing that supposed near death gaunt looking skeletal leanness you would expect from starved people for 2 years
where are all the super malnurished in all these pictures of people running around
also if there is issues of dehydration due to lack of water claims.. where are all the people that should by now be looking like tramps, (dirty clothes, ungroomed, shredded old clothing), chapped lips, dry flaky skin etc
now the ceasefire is on, investigators can now look deeper into gaza and actually get details, away from what hamas health ministry has been propagandising
Well spotted. Many people in the west especially those from disadvantaged urban and rural areas, trailer parks and crime ridden neighbourhoods all across their countries would be glad to have tier 1 smart phones and a lightning fast cell phone signal like some of those citizen journalists who blame Israel for everything each day ignoring the fact Israel gives ample warning in advance of any operation to the civilians with instructions of where to go to safety and find food and shelter whilst at the same time ignoring the fact that tonnes of aid , not only food and water but also vital supplies like baby formula, medical supplies, diesel oil etc destined for these camps and other essential places is looted and ransacked before they reach the people who need it by the very people Israel is trying to liberate the citiozens of Gaza from.
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... hamas just announced "we will not completely fulfil this trump plan, we will stay in power" hamas today started their own domestic civil war against palestinians opposing hamas(facepalm)
It is not actually a civil war, as Palestine people who oppose Hamas do not actually have weapons to go fully against a terrorist group like Hamas, Hezbollah or others alike, they are just going to continue to be oppressed by criminals within the power structure or Hamas, who do not have any regard for the safety of civilians whatsoever. Also, it is very gullible to asume Hamas ever had any intention to quit being the ones in charges of Gaza, if it is already difficult to have corrupt governments to leave power, imagine how difficult is for literal terrorist to leave power. They only understand the language of force.
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whilst hamas released all 20 alive hostages as a piecemeal stop gap to prolong things, hamas are claiming this ceasefire was the mindchild of hamas wanting peace. hamas are trying to say that israel never tried to win/offer/propose anything.
hamas are also not backing down by just hiding in their holes until the next phase. they are now sending their pawns out into the open to kill off palestinians that object/oppose hamas. this alone shows 2 things from hamas point of view a. hamas never cared about palestinians b. hamas still think they have control/governance of gaza and need to fight to retain control, instead of preparing to remove themselves
it also shows 2 things from palestinians point of view a. palestinians have/do/are objecting to hamas b. palestinians want hamas out asap
@franky1 I was thinking that today we should shun all these accusations and counteraccusations and celebrate. We should be celebrating that the ceasefire deal is being implemented. Both parties are freeing hostages, and there is so much joy in Israel and Gaza. I saw the joy that family members are expressing, and I think we should join them. If I were staying in your location, I would have invited you for a drink so that we could celebrate the end of this war that has brought so much pain.
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... hamas just announced "we will not completely fulfil this trump plan, we will stay in power" hamas today started their own domestic civil war against palestinians opposing hamas(facepalm)
It is not actually a civil war, as Palestine people who oppose Hamas do not actually have weapons to go fully against a terrorist group like Hamas, Hezbollah or others alike, they are just going to continue to be oppressed by criminals within the power structure or Hamas, who do not have any regard for the safety of civilians whatsoever. it is becoming a civil war because the number of hamas troops left is small.. not even enough to defend all of one city let alone the whole of gaza.. some hamas opposition have weapons and when they take out a hamas troop, or find a hamas weapons storage/cache, they take their weapons.. some are using incendiary devices. a few of the jihadi groups that were fighting with hamas against israel, only done so for money, and now that has dried up they are no longer bound/siding with hamas but they still have the weapons hamas gave them, and using this opportunity to rid the area off hamas. also israel employed some palestinian groups to act as security so they were given weapons too so its not a fists vs guns riot, but a gun vs gun civil battle Also, it is very gullible to asume Hamas ever had any intention to quit being the ones in charges of Gaza, if it is already difficult to have corrupt governments to leave power, imagine how difficult is for literal terrorist to leave power. They only understand the language of force.
the troops and middle ranks(commanders in gaza) have no intention to suddenly be unemployed/lose their promotional positions/ranks to just return to civilian life without a business to employ them.. also they are so indoctrinated into their cause and live by the old 1980's charter they are willing to sacrifice their lives to defend "their" land but now the question is who is left to fund them to continue. it might escalate to hamas troops grabbing more hostages(palestinians) and blackmailing arabian superstates.. israel is now organising with america, to get an arabian super committee to come together so that the arabian super-states can tell hamas and other jihadi's in gaza to back down. so hamas's days are numbered. their troop numbers are numbered, not even enough to protect a full city let alone the entire gaza area. and although the hamas' top leadership are hiding in many countries, they are not going to want to ruin their own immunity deal by keep ordering the small group of troops left in gaza to keep fighting. so the only inevitable action the mid level commanders and troops in gaza have is to eventually give up or sneak out of the border to join some other faction i feel the hamas effort will fizzle out. but not over quite yet
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