What's the best way for a Newbie to join conversation?

[Comeacross]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

[hosemary]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here.

It's simple.
Make post if you believe you can add value to the thread or you have something you ask.

Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie?

You won't be tagged by DT members without any reasons.
All people are welcome to the forum, unless you evade ban, break the forum rules, abuse the forum with multiple accounts, spam or try to scam others.

[Ndabagi01]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

You don’t need to hide any information when you have something useful to share to the forum. Newbies that are tagged must have violated a rule of the forum and that was why their accounts got tagged. Just by engaging in the forum does not make you getting tags from DT members. Every judgement from them is always linking to a proof to show that you’ve violated something that makes you deserving of the tag.

Don’t focus on that as a newbie, focus more on how to grow in knowledge here, that’s the only way you can grow and help to give back to the forum. If you’re a newbie, you can’t hide yourself for too long because even from your way of expression, it will tell a lot and if you’re none and pretending to be one, your means of expression and communication also will tell immediately or overtime in a short while.

[TryNinja]

I'm going to assume you're talking about newbies whose account are created to participate in forum drama without their original account being revealed. For example, I don't like a very known user but don't want toget on bad terms with him, so I create an account to call him out. Usually people will see you are not new.

But if you're just participating, answering questions, debating bitcoin, why would anyone tag you? This usually doesn't happen, and people don't care if you're really a newbie in terms of bitcoin knowledge.

[bitmover]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Just stay away from forum politics and drama.

Learn about crypto.  Read more than you write.

Try to add value to conversation. Bitcoin is what we talk about here. Learn about it and share, and ask what you dont know!

[Findingnemo]

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.
 

When other users suspect that someone behind this newbie account is not really a newbie but it's eutral and doesn't matter what colour it is which doesn't stop anyone from posting or engaging in conversations. Just be polite and not everyone is gonna assume a newbie as someone else unless it's obvious but for the starter just stick with crypto and learning more about it instead of engaging with the forum related matter until you have enough knowledge to express your opinion.

[freedomgo]

The forum conversation and discussion do not set limits, as everyone can participate in the discussion as much as you want. But it’s more efficient and effective if you join the discussion only if you have something valuable to ask or something relevant to share in the forum, either new insights or new sets of information that you think will definitely leave an impact to the forum members.

Newbies, even heros and legendaries will be surely tagged by DT if they have break the forum rules. But if not, there’s no reason for them to be worried about that as long as they are just doing the right thing in the forum.

[Floxynice]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

I honestly feel that forum members (or some forum members) are not being fair enough when looking out for who is a genuine newbie or not. Most of the time people act on their instincts. It is biased to assume that a newbie who knows a lot about crypto is fake. A person might be new to this forum but not new to crypto. The act of calling out newbies for knowing too much is not fair enough; it will kill their ability to express themselves better and give back quality to the community, which is what this forum stands for.

A newbie should only be called out if there are obvious signs that they are not genuine newbies.

[Liliana1304]

The best way is to be yourself and contribute when you have something that can be meaningful. Some newbies get flagged immediately as old users hiding in a newbie account because of information they tend to give out. Now I'm not saying that newbies can't be knowledgeable or anything but there's those who give themselves away by little things that aren't really little.

Don't get intimidated or try to tone yourself down because you feel that you might get called out as someone who's not entirely new to this place because if there's one thing that's appreciated here, it's the ability to be original.

[goldkingcoiner]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

There is only one way to stop being a newbie: by asking questions and learning from answers which are provided by the veterans. There is not shame or dishonor in it. And it definitely should not be seen as bothersome. In fact, most veterans are glad to help. But we do expect newbies to have at the very least read the pinned topics before posting their own texts. Otherwise they just ask things that have been answered already and they did not bother to research.

The ones with the tags of being suspected of not actually being newbies are too familiar with the culture and posting fashions. It seems suspicious as why they would need to create a throwaway account unless they are planning on defaming or scamming.

[uchegod-21]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Just be yourself. If you are truly a newbie, we would know from your discussions, except you have something to hide. I see you are trying to be extra careful so you do not end up in one problem or the other. Just go through the forum rules, as long as you are not going against the rules, you will be fine here.

Ask questions where you need clarification and join discussions you are familiar with. Every good input here matters alot.

[OcTradism]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

A newbie account knows many things about the forum, how to post, what to avoid in posting. You make me feeling you are not an actual newbie.
Posting after reading.
Reading first, reading more, thinking more, and don't post if you have nothing helpful in any topic for discussion or help the other forum members.

In general I can give you an advice: Read more, read more, post less, and don't post if it is not necessarily.

[The Cryptovator]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

It's really unnecessary to create an introduction post. We are all forum users here when joined to the forum, and we shouldn't disclose our identity here. Means it's unnecessary, definitely.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

This might happen for various reasons. Without reason or strong proof, no one will tag your account. Some forum members create a new account for bad intentions, like raising fake allegations, etc. So when someone was caught this way, their account would be tagged. No one should tag for knowing about the forum; it isn't hard to learn about the forum. But there should be a sequence.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Legit people will not be tagged. Simply, you learn from the forum and engage in discussion. Creating an introduction post doesn't proof anyone new. It's very normal to detect alt accountsacting as newbies. Be simple, so no questions will arise.

[Zlantann]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Most newbies receive those tags not because they posted quality information. Some of them engage themselves in forum politics and begin to show that they have a deep understanding of the forum. You might be knowledgeable about Bitcoin and crypto before you join the forum which would show in your post. But you would have to be in the forum for some time to understand how things work here. So when you know the forum more than a newcomer people begin to suspect that you have been here for a longer time.

Welcome to the forum.

[acroman08]

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

would you mind sharing some of the newbie accounts that got tagged for not acting like a newbie? also, the "tag" you mentioned isn't negative, it seems like it is just a neutral feedback that the user of the account is familiar to the forum.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

having a newbie account does not mean someone is new to the forum or is ignorant about bitcoin/cryptocurrency. nobody would really care if you know a lot about the forum or cryptocurrency. just join any discussion that you want and share what information you can share.

[Comeacross]

But you would have to be in the forum for some time to understand how things work here. So when you know the forum more than a newcomer people begin to suspect that you have been here for a longer time.

Welcome to the forum.

This is exactly my point here. I have been around here for some time now surfing through threads by threads but I mostly do that without logging in since it always request for my login details and I don't like inputting my details often. So I visit the forum and read some few threads. Of course, I'm suppose to be familiar with this environment after spending more than two years visiting it time to time. Although I am not a fan of politics even in real life but it still unfair for someone to be criticise for knowing too much. Isn't it?

would you mind sharing some of the newbie accounts that got tagged for not acting like a newbie? also, the "tag" you mentioned isn't negative, it seems like it is just a neutral feedback that the user of the account is familiar to the forum.

Unfortunately, I don't keep track of such accounts but I know they exist. The tag is neutral in most cases.

The forum is like any other discussion forum and anyone who's familiar with such other forums won't have problem using this forum either.

I appreciate you all for your contributions. Unfortunately, I can not respond to each replies here but of course, I noticed everything.

[lovesmayfamilis]

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

I assume you're talking about this account?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3691031

But you should understand that in this case, I meant that the user flagrantly violated the forum rules by registering another account after the first account was completely banned.

What can you do on the forum? Don't pretend to be someone you're not. Always remember that all your posts are archived, and those who read you will inevitably follow your progress on the forum from time to time. It's quite unsettling to see a newbie who claims to be completely ignorant of the forum's activities or Bitcoin itself (for example) only to start giving out instructions in the next post or posting in threads where merits are often given. To avoid being labeled a liar, you need to live up to your claims from the start.

[Obim34]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

The forum has no restriction for newbies, any discussion that you can contribute, go ahead and make your contribution. Any controversy is as a result of questionable behaviors, a newbie might be well acquainted with Bitcoin knowledge but entering the forum is another community that will take a sincere period of time to understand how the forum operates, but we've seen newbies know too well, some go back to involve in discussions that happened years back in the forum, obviously you can tell that the account is owned by someone already familiar with the forum.

My advice is that you keep to rules and respect other users, if you don't like a user just use the ignore button, avoid unnecessary drama as a newbie, it is best here when you keep a good relationship than having spoilt your reputation.

[Doan9269]

Know the best and desiring topic you know about and be able to contribute on, follow the strict pattern as required from you of a quality post, don't spam, don't write off topic post, give your personal opinion and don't plagiarize other's contents except you added a reference link, don't give false information or a misleading one and read more of the posting etiquette of the forum to understand more better on the things expected of you.

[Awaklara]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie?

Newbies with new knowledge will be greatly appreciated by forum users. There is no need to worry about that tag. Those who are tagged as not being newbies are certainly conducting some investigation. It does not mean that those who are new with knowledge will automatically receive such a tag.
Ideally, newcomers can visit their local boards and gain insights from various existing topics. Although it is not impossible, there are longtime users who indeed become active again with their new accounts, either because their old accounts had issues or they can no longer access them.