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October 06, 2025, 08:25:33 AM
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We know lots has been happening during the last week Peace offer by US for Gaza and Hamas seems to comply with some of the conditions but not all, we can follow the updates from here Hamas says it agrees to release Israeli hostages but seeks changes to US Gaza peace plan and the ultimatum of 72 hours was given to effect this release, which it supposed to last this Monday, which is today, but that side, we are also aware about the approach employed by US in setting up the other religious  nations as How Arab nations, rest of the world reacted to Trump’s Gaza peace plan over the conflict and all supported the President Donald Trump Approach.

I will like us to apply our honest thoughts on what we see to all these genuinely without any attack or sidedness on any, how is our opinion on these few questions.

1. What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?
2. Will Has accept to tender their arms and be disarmed?
3. Did Gaza support Hamas or Israel in taking over the leadership?
4. Is President Trump approach to settle the war the lasting solution?
5. What could be your overall input as offer to this solution needed?

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October 06, 2025, 10:53:20 AM
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1. What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?
terrorist group. they couldnt even run the municipal public services and instead required UNRWA to run hospitals schools and civil services. also other leaders hiding in qatar run the politics/diplomacy of delegating tasks. so hamas in gaza were just terrorists pretending to be a government

2. Will Has accept to tender their arms and be disarmed?
they said not before elections. they will hand over weapons to the next presiding palestinian government. whereby elections can take as long as christmas 2026(15 month plan publicised)

3. Did Gaza support Hamas or Israel in taking over the leadership?
gaza voted them in as an alternative to the fatah PA party, that governs westbank. israel did not fund them but on occassions unrestricted the sanctions to allow funding that was laundered through qatar to get to gaza. funding that came from sponsors like tehran and other palestinian supporting arab league nations

4. Is President Trump approach to settle the war the lasting solution?
even if brand name "hamas" was dissolved. extremists have many other brands to form under, like the PIJ and others. even hamas founder Sinwar was actually part of a syrian faction of extremists that wanted activities to happen in palestinian regions, same with some houthi and even jordanian factions. so hamas brand may disappear but a new brand will popup. even hamas shown their hand too early by rebranding to a "movement", which shows they ar enot willing to step down from their military/terror actions but are just sidestepping labels and branding issues

5. What could be your overall input as offer to this solution needed?

hamas is under the belief that:
they can still get an immunity deal even if it takes months to bring back the hostages.
they can still get an immunity deal even if they never disarm
they can still be part of a new "movement" by just saying hamas is gone. and then take their guns into the new movement and carry on
they can keep a ceasefire going for months(keep IDF in defense objective but not let IDF go back to offense objective)
they can help the arab league in a new government before hamas do any of the 20point deal hamas suppose to do
hamas still think they have the upper hand/control over negotiations

the terms of the 20point deal need to be more detailed of deadlines. such as only having X days before immunity deal goes away.

unless they:
release hostages
disarm
agree to let a PA political group take over the governance of gaza

get hamas negotiating by the hour not by the week-month
offering the immunity deal needs some formal conditions/deadlines to get hamas talking faster

hamas already made an announcement of conditional acceptance on thursday 2nd oct which meant hostages should have been starting to be release by sunday(72 hours).. they are already extending the first deadline, which western negotiators needs to stop giving them so many chances to escape holding upto to deal conditions

the hostage part of negotiations should have been done between 2nd -5th with first releases happening last night
but now we have negotiations starting this week and "possible " suggestions of some releases later this week, but no defined deadline.

hamas have already suggested it would take months to locate all of the hostages (facepalm - stall tactics)

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October 06, 2025, 07:15:49 PM
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1. What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?

I don't want to engage in any form of political debate. Hamas is seen from a different perspective by people or governments.   

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2. Will Has accept to tender their arms and be disarmed?

They have already agreed to disarm and allow a group of Palestinian technocrats to run Gaza. 

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3. Did Gaza support Hamas or Israel in taking over the leadership?

Gazians will always prefer self-rule. They are even rejecting the option of Tony Blair heading post post-war Gaza administration.

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4. Is President Trump approach to settle the war the lasting solution?

The option for lasting peace might be the age-old two-state solution.

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5. What could be your overall input as offer to this solution needed?

Both nations should embrace peace, stop the killings and respect their territorial integrity.

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October 06, 2025, 08:16:17 PM
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I will like us to apply our honest thoughts on what we see to all these genuinely without any attack or sidedness on any, how is our opinion on these few questions.

1. What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?
The answer to this would depend on which side of the divide and individual is on and what informations about HAMAS he's being fed  through the media.
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2. Will Has accept to tender their arms and be disarmed?
That absolutely depends still on what the negotiations and conditions are.
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3. Did Gaza support Hamas or Israel in taking over the leadership?
Prefer not to say ...
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4. Is President Trump approach to settle the war the lasting solution?
We all know what can really bring about a lasting peace, the two state solution which has been  on ground for decades.
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5. What could be your overall input as offer to this solution needed?
sovereignty and self rule is every human's right. Any form of invasion should stop and let peace return with with the different parties occupying the lands as rightly belonging to them by origin.

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1. What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?
2. Will Has accept to tender their arms and be disarmed?
3. Did Gaza support Hamas or Israel in taking over the leadership?
4. Is President Trump approach to settle the war the lasting solution?
5. What could be your overall input as offer to this solution needed?

1. The Muslim Brotherhood is a global organization internationally designated as a terrorist organization. Hamas is the Muslim Brotherhood's branch in Palestine, and its terrorism has been perpetrated against the people of Gaza since 2007. Yes the 07th October is an act of terrorism like all the acts made before and after by Israel.
2. Hamas no longer has any sources of support after it turned to the Iranian camp, which had been funding it as part of its war against Israel. Hezbollah is gone, the regime has changed in Syria, Iran has become a target for Israeli drones, and the leaders are being targeted everywhere. They are forced to surrender, not their choice.
3. Gaza neither supports Hamas nor Israel. An institution called the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) is internationally recognized as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in Gaza strip and the west bank. Hamas overthrew that authority and declared Gaza under its control, just like the occupation carried out by Israel.
4. This may be the last solution for palestinians to save what remains of their homeland and people from destruction and kill. It is also the last only solution for Hamas to protect its leaders and fighters from persecution, after Israel demonstrated its ability to target them in any other country. However, this is certainly not the last option for Israel, given that it has the capabilities to continue the war.
5. I have no input but to save palestinians from both Israel and Hamas.

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It would have if this were a war. This is genocide so it would only end if either the entire population of Gaza is killed or if the terrorist organization carrying out this genocide (aka Israel) is stopped. And the Israeli terrorists are not going to be stopped with deals their supporters put forth, they will only be stopped with brute force.

What is Hamas to you, Activist group or Terrorist group?
Are the Ukrainian people fighting the foreign invaders today, a terrorist group or a resistance group?
Were the French who fought the Nazi invaders, terrorist groups or resistance groups?
If a thief invades your home and murders your child and steals your property and you pick up a baseball bat and beat that thief, will you be considered a terrorist or a self defender?

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If a thief invades your home and murders your child and steals your property and you pick up a baseball bat and beat that thief, will you be considered a terrorist or a self defender?
if a tyrannical terror pretend-government agents take over your home. turns it into a military operations position or a weapons store where the agent will hide in your kids bedroom where they sleep...
they tell you not to leave, to ignore any evacuation warnings, holds you there and say that you will be repaid in the nextlife if you agree to become a willing martyr for their cause.. then the terror governments enemy give warnings to you and to your neighbours to try to escape the area because they want to deal with the terrorist pretend-government agents in the local area.
 
the terrorist government agent will be dead. and you might end up dead, but the cause will be mystified to make the terrorist pretend-government look innocent/unmentioned, leaving the truth as to what happened in the hours-days before your death be filled with lies that suit the narrative of the terrorist pretend government being "innocent palestinian"

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In life, we believed everything that is backing up with this fight was under historic believes and this same mentality is what needed to be erased in other to make peace, because you can't be harbouring karma in you a d expect to have inner peace, once the crisis of the past had been forgotten, there won't be a need to habe inner bitterness against each other, because most of these happenings are just transgenerational battles being fought to this day, we needed a reorientation on both sides.

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October 07, 2025, 04:04:42 PM
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Hamas is no way something different than a terrorist organization, They attacked and killed civilians for the sake of terror and try to achieve their political objectives, that is the definition of what a terrorist organization is, they just happen to have power over the gaze strip, and for peace to be lasting and firm, then Hamas needs to be removed from power within the gaza strip.

In my opinion this plan to disarm and make peace in gaza is an opportunity for people to try to rebuild their life, but terrorist are never to be trusted as long as they have weapons and will to continue to pursue their objectives by any means necessary. It is not only about giving up and hand over their weapons, members of Hamas need to be completely disbanded and their structure of power disolved, the same needs to happen with terrorist organizations in lebanon.

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October 07, 2025, 04:15:06 PM
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Hamas wanted to only surrender under the Palestinians government to take over Gaza and Israel is in demand that they surrender for them to take positions for peace and security operations in Gaza, Hamas may not agree a cease fire deal with Israel taking over Gaza, except the Palestinians authority, but is it not a return to power sense Hamas is playing when they got returned back to where they originated.

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