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In his case, the casino should step in and settle it since it happened within their premises. I’m sure they have CCTV footage to confirm who really won that bet. If the casino doesn’t take action, then they’re not a reputable one, and it shows they’re not protecting players from harassment. That’s why it’s important to choose a casino where you actually feel safe.. plenty of security, cameras everywhere, that alone gives some peace of mind. And honestly, the amount he won isn’t even that big.
How will people know that they feel safe in a casino if something like this can happen in one of the casinos? This is the reason I just do not like land based casinos because I feel insecure and I feel like I do not have privacy if I want to use them, unlike online gambling sites that I can easily access and still feel secure. And we have argued that the safest place is inside the casino because of a lot of security presence and even if you win big, you are still safe as criminals are not going to do something because of many security personnel. But this is the first time that we have heard that security is nowhere and that it has fallen. This should not happen inside a casino and specially a big casino like Bellagio. The winner or the victim has ever to sue the casino for the damages, physical and monetary. And again, it's obvious that they didn't do their job and for sure heads are going to role here. I don't know if casino hire a 3rd party security or employed their own. But someone is going to be held accountable here.
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?
read the whole story here. The man has every right to file a lawsuit. If the security was doing their job, he could not have been assaulted. Assuming after the slot official, who went in for other verification, informed the security person to watch over what's happening, especially as there is a win on display there is no how someone could have come from outside to drag that with the winner, if everything from the source link is through the case will be in his favor, he could have not even waited for this long to file for a lawsuit
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Ive seen a different stories like this they saw a winner and they keep arguing with them telling they are the winner, which is i dont get it why other people do this. Like they get envy to those people who win a large amount and they dont?. Just kinda weird or its part of the casino to have this kind of strategy well no one knows reason why as possible is to keep low key and chill if you win, its good but dont celebrate too much that might give an attention to other people that you won because you know its gambling and large sum of money people can do anything just to have that money.
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted. vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? read the whole story here. Truly a sad turn of events, these issues are not exactly isolated, every now and then you hear something like this and it's really unfortunate because most times the winning loses everything, quite the irony. In this case the casino and the assaulters share parts in the blame, the casino should have known who the winning belonged to, they did just ask him to give them time while they process his winnings so they can't even claim to be oblivious here, they assaulters are thieves plain and simple but I guess that's what greed does to people, but the balls to claim someone else's winning as yours😅 they deserve to pay for what they did, it's wrong and that's why we have laws in the first place, to punish people like them.
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There's no harm in spending a few dollars for fully armed security officers to escort you to your destination.
Cases of assault and robbery often happen to those who win big jackpots, as far as I know, this is because criminal things like that often happen to gamblers who carry large amounts of money, At present many physical casinos who provide bodyguard services that escort the journey home to their destination for those who win.
I wouldn't trust an escort to accompany back to where i live, they may be an associate of the attack offering me for assault by leaking my address. If it took that long for the casino to respond, they do have a poor customer structure, and should deal with the law suit. Use of coercion by the three persons already prove disapproval as the jackpot winner, the casino thought they could discard the win seeing two parties fight for it. Disadvantage of using a physical casino is that you are exposed to threat, online casinos are the best because of esteemed privacy, every of your winnings (jackpot) are undisclosed except you decide talk about your win.
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted?
The casinos I go to have cameras everywhere, security, private parking and taxis at the door, although I see that happened at the Bellagio. Anyways, it is extremely unlikely that the same thing would happen to me as in that story. How many people have won jackpots at the Bellagio and didn't have any problem? But since you bring up the example, I think the casino does bear some responsibility, and it would be better for them to agree to a deal without going to court, because the costs are going to be higher.
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He should be compensated because the casino failed to maintain order in its establishment. The staff only attended to him and saw his winnings, so he has a witness to confirm that he is the real winner. The security officers should also arrest those impostors for alarm and scandal, and for claiming ownership of the winning amount.
Casinos have CCTV, so it's easy to know who the winner is, so he has a strong case. The real winner should press charges against the people who assaulted him and the casino as well. He has a strong case on this.
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?
Apart from the casino, the guy should also sue the people who assaulted him. If you ask me, they'd most likely be ordered to pay the OP for damages they caused if there is enough evidence that they caused the problem. As for the casino, it will depend on the evidence, I mean, yeah, the casino are responsible to their gambler's safety but if the assualt happened fast and ended quickly, before the security could respond, then the casino might not be held liable(again, this depends on the evidence presented against the casino), but if the casino's security fail to respond in proper time, then they might be held liable(again, this will depend on the evidence presented against the casino).
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted?
The casinos I go to have cameras everywhere, security, private parking and taxis at the door, although I see that happened at the Bellagio. Anyways, it is extremely unlikely that the same thing would happen to me as in that story. How many people have won jackpots at the Bellagio and didn't have any problem? But since you bring up the example, I think the casino does bear some responsibility, and it would be better for them to agree to a deal without going to court, because the costs are going to be higher. D P D, I didn't know you frequented land based casinos! I almost never go, but maybe that's because I don't have great casinos nearby (casino kursaal at most), although I've always said that if I ever won the lottery I would definitely visit Las Vegas and live that experience. Back on topic you're right: reading this news is like when your mother worried if you went out at night because she saw a news story about a stabbing at the exit of a nightclub. With all the security measures in place to prevent this kind of thing from happening, I think that this particular case is completely anecdotal.
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The casino aren't responsible with anything happened to the winner, they're only responsible to pay what they owe to Vargas-Gutierrez. Vargas-Gutierrez filled a lawsuit against the casino was wrong, he won't able to win this case. The man has every right to file a lawsuit. If the security was doing their job, he could not have been assaulted. Assuming after the slot official, who went in for other verification, informed the security person to watch over what's happening, especially as there is a win on display there is no how someone could have come from outside to drag that with the winner, if everything from the source link is through the case will be in his favor, he could have not even waited for this long to file for a lawsuit
Security can't hold many people, if there are a group of people who want to attack someone, the security aren't enough to make sure the safety on the casino. It's simply just a bad day for Vargas-Gutierrez since we can't predict what happen in the future.
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I think if the casino you're playing at is in a particularly volatile area, you might want to hedge your bets by calling a taxi or someone close to you. You shouldn't expect that at most casinos. I've read about areas of Nigeria known for being lawless, and those are where you need to be especially vigilant. In other, less dangerous areas, I don't think people would be so brazen, but it's still worth being cautious. I'm not at risk of being robbed because there are no land-based casinos in my country, and all my winnings are online. Although they're not large enough to warrant worrying about such sums.
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? Both should be held accountable: the attackers for assaulting him and trying to claim his winnings, which can be considered stealing, and the casino as well for failure to secure its players. Casinos on premises like this should be quick to take action if they witness quarrels between players, as every establishment is mandated to have its own CCTV system. Their license can be revoked for failing to maintain peace and order on their premises.
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October 08, 2025, 04:47:30 PM |
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted. vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? read the whole story here. The casino should be held responsible because no one should be assaulted around the premises, this proves that they are not doing the right thing, security guards are supposed to be around to make sure such doesnt happen. This is the reason why I don't even like physical casinos, the attention you get when you win can attract those with evil intentions as well. It's better for me to gamble and take my wins privately
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October 08, 2025, 04:54:34 PM |
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? read the whole story here. I do not think the casino should be responsible for any charges but rather just the assaulters, but on the second thought, I also think the casino is supposed to be responsible for the safety of their customers within and around their environment but they failed and that’s where the casino should come into the lawsuit that was filed. Ive seen a different stories like this they saw a winner and they keep arguing with them telling they are the winner, which is i dont get it why other people do this. Like they get envy to those people who win a large amount and they dont?. Just kinda weird or its part of the casino to have this kind of strategy well no one knows reason why as possible is to keep low key and chill if you win, its good but dont celebrate too much that might give an attention to other people that you won because you know its gambling and large sum of money people can do anything just to have that money.
I am still wondering how someone will play a game and another person comes to claim the winning, like is that even possible, I haven’t been to a physical casino but there are bet shops in my area where you only go to play an already booked game or book a game and at this point, I think I would love to visit a physical casino to see things for myself.
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October 08, 2025, 05:03:31 PM |
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted. vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? read the whole story here. The assaulters should be responsible for their actions but even the casinos should pay a huge sum of money to the lucky gamblers because the casino should be able to know the rightful winner and who's not the rightful winner. So long as it's within the casino environment, they are supposed to protect the gambler because if anything should happen to any gambler within that environment their business will be split as alot of investigation will be going on, and that will probably give them a bad record at the main time.
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October 08, 2025, 05:45:25 PM |
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Seeing this kind of problem, most people have used online platforms. When gambling was not so much available online, this kind of problem used to occur more. Many times, it has been seen that after winning money from a casino set, he was attacked. Many people have suffered financial and physical losses due to this kind of problem. I know a story of one person like this. He was not that much of an expert in betting, but suddenly he got a lot of money by betting online, he showed it to a person he knew next to him, after which that trusted person attacked him with some others added and forcibly took the money. So that such kind of problem does not happen, those who bet should be a little more aware and bet.
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October 08, 2025, 06:01:28 PM |
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Casino is responsible to give the winning to the rightful person and they have cctv all over the casino then it will not be hard for them to find who is telling the truth in matter of minutes and also they are responsible for protecting the users who enters in a casino so yeah it is possible for the user who sued the casino is in favor but a casino can break the case with expensive law firms.
And to answer the question, avoid the situation, don't engage, and file a police complaint against the people who stole money from you.
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October 08, 2025, 06:22:25 PM |
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this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted.
vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?
Indeed it's a rear case scenario, hardly you hear of this type of situation. But However the lawsuit should have been filed against the assulters because the casino doesn't know about this but the people who made a wrong judgment. Why involving the casino was necessary is because it will help in facilitating the resolving of that issue. Because if they are involved in this case, they will facilitate the whole issue for justice to prevail to avoid there reputation been rubed in the mud for the incapability. Another thing I have learnt in this story is that it is better to gamble online than physical casino shops because this was done as a result of physical casino. If it was online, no body would have argued anything when your won amount is deposited right in your account without third party interference.
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October 08, 2025, 06:26:14 PM |
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted. vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible? read the whole story here. Honestly no one would still feel lucky after something like that cause getting assaulted right after winning takes away all the excitement and happiness it just turns what should’ve been a good moment into a nightmare and yeah it really shows how dangerous greed can be when money is involved. As for who’s responsible i’d say both sides in a way the attackers are definitely the main ones to blame cause they’re the ones who actually committed the assault they should face full punishment for what they did no question about that but the casino could also share a bit of the blame depending on how things were handled if the area didn’t have proper security or if the staff didn’t step in quickly enough to protect the winner then yeah the casino might be held partly responsible too. Casinos are supposed to have enough guards and cameras to make sure stuff like this doesn’t happen especially around slot machines and payout areas where people are more likely to be targeted by others if they knew he was waiting for his payout and didn’t ensure he was safe that’s on them too. So yeah while the attackers are the real criminals here the casino might also need to take some responsibility for not preventing the situation or not reacting fast enough it’s one of those cases where both the criminals and the establishment share the fault even if in different ways.
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October 08, 2025, 06:30:28 PM |
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?
If the casino had paid him back on time, this situation would not have arisen. But they couldn't, which is why those people got a chance to attack him after seeing it. The casino may have denied responsibility, but it could have been involved. It needs to be investigated to see if the casino was actually involved. But it seems to me that the casino would not have gotten involved in something like this for $2,600. They would never do anything that would tarnish their reputation. Maybe someone followed him. Maybe not. If the casino had paid the money back immediately, I would have considered free from allegation.
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