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October 09, 2025, 09:20:07 PM
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The victim was physically attacked in the casino, the casino supposed to pay him the money that he won and also needs to pay him for damages done by the attackers. I have read the news in details and I see that the casino is very wrong. There should be security in all land based casinos and they should respond fast to fighting.


How can a casino function without securities, that's a careless act on their own part, what are they using all the money they make for? The assault would have been avoided if the casino had security guards but they failed to do that. I don't really go to land based casinos but if I do I wouldn't go to places that has poor security, your safety should be the priority. The casino are definitely going to pay him.

The lack of proper security at the casino, is not only a derogatory repercussion to the casino but is also irresponsible. It is a pity that they could use their massive profits to maintain a safe environment, in terms of hiring more security guards to guard against crime.

It is our right to insist that casinos carry the utmost criteria of protection and I sympathise with the fact that we should not be visiting a casino where the security is of lesser priority. Where accidents happen, negligent casinos ought to pay dearly given that their responsibility is to protect patrons who derive them financial gains as a basic duty.

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October 09, 2025, 09:20:24 PM
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?
The both should be held responsible, who knows if the casino arrange the assaulters to do what they did while acting like they aren't aware.

And also, it's the casino fault to publicly wants to reward Vargas, when actually they know something awful may happen,

Is 2500$ such a big amount of money that can cause this abuse, I was thinking it's $25k. Wtf

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October 09, 2025, 09:42:24 PM
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The victim was physically attacked in the casino, the casino supposed to pay him the money that he won and also needs to pay him for damages done by the attackers. I have read the news in details and I see that the casino is very wrong. There should be security in all land based casinos and they should respond fast to fighting.


How can a casino function without securities, that's a careless act on their own part, what are they using all the money they make for? The assault would have been avoided if the casino had security guards but they failed to do that. I don't really go to land based casinos but if I do I wouldn't go to places that has poor security, your safety should be the priority. The casino are definitely going to pay him.


Precisely! Knowing that there's always a possibility that assaulter might be present land based casino should have enough securities to protect both the business and those gamblers who are playing and using their services, on my own opinion both should be liable with what happened, that kind of negligence can be avoided if the facilitator manage to secure the player who wins the jackpot, they have the liability to protect those users while they are inside their premises.

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October 09, 2025, 11:21:08 PM
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It's the casino's responsibility to guarantee everything that happens within it. In this case, if a player wins, the prize should go to them, without exception, and it's up to the casino itself to ensure this. One possible solution would be to implement technologies like blockchain, or some system that makes each player unique and easily verifiable.

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October 10, 2025, 02:46:52 AM
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It's the casino's responsibility to guarantee everything that happens within it. In this case, if a player wins, the prize should go to them, without exception, and it's up to the casino itself to ensure this. One possible solution would be to implement technologies like blockchain, or some system that makes each player unique and easily verifiable.
Even now many casinos are already integrated with Blockchain and have their own crypto tokens such as Rollbit with RLB.
But for the security issue of the winning player when it comes to gambling accounts it will be the responsibility of the online casino, but the security outside of that will not be the responsibility of gambling.

Physical security only exists in offline gambling and yes it is the responsibility of the casino if it is still in the gambling area, but beyond that the casino will not provide a guarantee of security.

 
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October 10, 2025, 02:56:19 AM
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just don’t make the mistake of posting about your winnings and exposing your personal details such as name and address because you might not come out of your house but criminals may be the one to enter where you are

i know we like to flex and show off our accomplishments but sometimes being private or being lowkey pays as in you’ll be a lot safer from evil people
It crossed my mind that if we were to win big or win the jackpot in online gambling, not many people would know about it. However, if we intentionally posted about our winnings, it could cause problems. A minor issue might be that people would borrow money from us, knowing we had money at the time. Another possible problem might be that someone might commit a crime, such as robbery or something else. This is especially true if we live in a similar gambling environment, as both of these things could happen.

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October 10, 2025, 03:37:37 AM
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It's the casino's responsibility to guarantee everything that happens within it. In this case, if a player wins, the prize should go to them, without exception, and it's up to the casino itself to ensure this. One possible solution would be to implement technologies like blockchain, or some system that makes each player unique and easily verifiable.
Even now many casinos are already integrated with Blockchain and have their own crypto tokens such as Rollbit with RLB.
But for the security issue of the winning player when it comes to gambling accounts it will be the responsibility of the online casino, but the security outside of that will not be the responsibility of gambling.

Physical security only exists in offline gambling and yes it is the responsibility of the casino if it is still in the gambling area, but beyond that the casino will not provide a guarantee of security.
I agree that the introduction of blockchain to the operation of online casinos is a great phenomenon that warrants a new outlook on security. But the scope of responsibility needs to be delimited considering the extent of control. The biggest role online casinos can play is to safeguard player account integrity so that money and other tokens of crypto can be secured in the online casinos.

Nevertheless, I believe that they should not be held liable to issues like connexion of players on internet when it is not within their area of control. This is unlike physical casinos with which the physical security is the sole responsibility of the physical casinos. We should come to terms with the fact that when a player gets out of the premises or getting out of an online location, the burden of protection falls upon the player wholesale.

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October 10, 2025, 06:19:33 AM
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...this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted.

He should have had a gun. I haven't read the article, but apparently it happened in a country where there are no major difficulties with owning weapons. So what's the problem then? Apparently, it was the lucky one who wasn't ready for unexpected luck. By the way, this situation (lost winnings) is even worse for him than not winning at all.

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October 10, 2025, 06:40:45 AM
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this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted.

This is why online gambling is safer than land based casinos. Grin You never know what kind of shady people are hanging out in land based casinos. Some land based casinos are owned by criminals and mobsters. I definitely wouldn't want to win the jackpot in such casinos. Grin
I'm joking about online casinos being safer. We've all seen horror stories about people being scammed by online casinos, but at least you won't get physically assaulted for winning money/crypto at an online casino. Preserving you life and health is more important than winning money via gambling.

 
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October 10, 2025, 07:32:46 AM
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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one

this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted.

vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?

read the whole story here.

That happens when you are more in favor of the physical casinos compared to online ones. I mean sure there are people who prefer the physical casino because of human interaction yet there are these cases where human interactions end badly like in the story here. I never play in physical casinos from a lot of years now and I have totally peace of mind when playing in online ones as if I win the jackpot I can easily wait until the casino verify that my win is genuine and then release my money, no risk of being assaulted when you play from home or anywhere with your mobile, I mean alone where other people cannot see what you are doing. As for the specific story the casino should have invested in physical security officers and cameras which show how things were.

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October 10, 2025, 07:58:09 AM
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In cases like this,  when someone wins big in physical casino, I believe that casino managenent should approach the winner discreetly. Also there is possibility that casino employees were in arrangement with robbers, so they let the winner wait unprotected on purpose. Anyway I think casino should have safe location for winners to avoid situations like this.

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In cases like this,  when someone wins big in physical casino, I believe that casino managenent should approach the winner discreetly. Also there is possibility that casino employees were in arrangement with robbers, so they let the winner wait unprotected on purpose. Anyway I think casino should have safe location for winners to avoid situations like this.

Ah, i cant answer you and i can only speculate because I've never been to a real casino.
I can tell you that i would like to go there live with friends in real life
but after a while i would get bored playing the slot machine alone, i am more of a person who enjoys company and therefore playing with others

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The casino and the assaulters should be held responsible for any damage they must have caused the gambler because it's not his fault that some random guys at the casino there decided assault a customer and instead of the casino to handle it properly by making sure the real winner gets his money, they decided to be irresponsible. Was the casino not supposed to have security operatives on duty to help retrain those thieves from assaulting their customers.

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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?

read the whole story here.
It's so sad how a fortunate outcome turned out to be an unfortunate scenario for a gambler who may have being losing ever since and on having that one lucky win, he got assaulted  which could have risk his life. He the gambler did the right thing by containing the casino in the law suit. They acted unprofessional by delaying, and in a public place like a casino, security cameras are supposed to be available and could have used in identifying the real winner without chaos.

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October 10, 2025, 03:32:38 PM
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vargas-gutierrez filed a lawsuit against the casino. do you think the casino is also responsible for what has happened or should the assaulters only be the ones responsible?

This is definitely a unprofessionalism from the casino team , they should have the security responsibility. I thought this would be million dollar robbery as your titles stated. But it's sad that ther was only $2500 jackpot not that big to be noticed. Yes that guy faced this humiliation and assaulted. Poor security management from the casino, I read the full story. If someone had won million how could they tackle this. What a shame. In online casino , casino owner's team freeze the fund, here people's getting assaulted from a random guy.

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October 10, 2025, 04:21:31 PM
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In cases like this,  when someone wins big in physical casino, I believe that casino managenent should approach the winner discreetly. Also there is possibility that casino employees were in arrangement with robbers, so they let the winner wait unprotected on purpose. Anyway I think casino should have safe location for winners to avoid situations like this.
We can not know if they anyone from the casino is among the ribbers or just some random people who are looking for a way to assault someone and get away with what the person has. However, what you said might probably help too, but I think the one of the best ways to prevent such issues not to repeat it self anymore is when the casino plants a hidden CCTV camera all around the slot machine and other areas inside and outside the casino.

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will you still feel pretty lucky if shortly after winning the lottery you end up getting assaulted? this is not a rare case because we know how greedy and evil people can be that it becomes dangerous when we are carrying large amounts of money or just acquired one

this is what happened to a man named Joel Vargas-Guitierrez after winning $2,600 in a slot machine. after winning the casino told him to wait as they process his winnings but a group of people were able to see the machine displaying his jackpot win and claimed it to be theirs and this entire argument ended with the jackpot winner being physically assaulted.
People think that money from gambling winnings is easy money. And if evil natured people know that someone has won a big jackpot from gambling, then it is natural that they can attack him. Therefore, gambling winnings should never be declared publicly and one should never tell anyone about any big winnings. One should always keep one's gambling winnings hidden. However, many people get very excited when they go gambling and tell the story of their winnings to many people. Due to which others can know about their financial condition. Every gambler should keep his gambling winnings hidden.

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October 10, 2025, 04:42:34 PM
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In cases like this,  when someone wins big in physical casino, I believe that casino managenent should approach the winner discreetly. Also there is possibility that casino employees were in arrangement with robbers, so they let the winner wait unprotected on purpose. Anyway I think casino should have safe location for winners to avoid situations like this.
We can not know if they anyone from the casino is among the ribbers or just some random people who are looking for a way to assault someone and get away with what the person has. However, what you said might probably help too, but I think the one of the best ways to prevent such issues not to repeat it self anymore is when the casino plants a hidden CCTV camera all around the slot machine and other areas inside and outside the casino.
I think big money is always watched by passersby and the general public. Especially if you win the jackpot, it will attract a lot of attention in a land-based casino, and you need to understand that among these people, there will be people who want to keep that money in their pockets, even through less-than-legal means. Therefore, it's best to think twice before shouting at every casino about winning the jackpot. There's even a saying that money loves silence, so I'll never shout even if I'm lucky enough to win the jackpot.

 
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October 10, 2025, 05:24:16 PM
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This bizarre incident was clearly the fault of the casino, particularly the security guards. Oddly, they were not present during the altercation that led to the fight, even though they should have been there to protect the casino from crimes that harm both players and the casino, as described in the OP's story. Security guards should have been there to break up the fight, and the casino should have taken responsibility and paid out winnings. And I'm sure the casino's reputation was tarnished after this incident due to their poor security, which will undoubtedly cause concern for other visitors.


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October 10, 2025, 05:41:49 PM
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just don’t make the mistake of posting about your winnings and exposing your personal details such as name and address because you might not come out of your house but criminals may be the one to enter where you are

i know we like to flex and show off our accomplishments but sometimes being private or being lowkey pays as in you’ll be a lot safer from evil people
It crossed my mind that if we were to win big or win the jackpot in online gambling, not many people would know about it. However, if we intentionally posted about our winnings, it could cause problems. A minor issue might be that people would borrow money from us, knowing we had money at the time. Another possible problem might be that someone might commit a crime, such as robbery or something else. This is especially true if we live in a similar gambling environment, as both of these things could happen.

If you post your winnings online and people come to see it trust me it will definitely cause big problems or even if you don't post it and people generally knows that you are the winner of a the lottery or something trust me they will be definitely no peace around for you anymore . I think there is one viral video of one dude from the US who was murder due to the fact that he won the lottery and everyone wanted a slice of the winning and humans with got to the extreme just to feel the taste of that winning .

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