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I operate with the mindset that Bitcoin can be fine without government influence so I'm fine with either cases (Congress approved BSR or not).
Of course, bitcoin can still function just fine without government intervention or strategic bitcoin reserves. But without those catalysts, bitcoin will have a hard time achieving bigger things, like competing with gold. Something that many bitcoin investors have always wanted. Just like Bitcoin was doing well before ETFs, Wall Street got involved. But it is clear that with their participation, Bitcoin has reached new heights and become more popular faster. If there isn’t a large inflow of funds from ETFs, I don’t think Bitcoin’s price can reach $100k that quickly. Likewise, I don't think bitcoin can hit $1 million or compete with gold in market capitalization without central bank intervention.
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Of course, bitcoin can still function just fine without government intervention or strategic bitcoin reserves. But without those catalysts, bitcoin will have a hard time achieving bigger things, like competing with gold. Something that many bitcoin investors have always wanted.
Just like Bitcoin was doing well before ETFs, Wall Street got involved. But it is clear that with their participation, Bitcoin has reached new heights and become more popular faster. If there isn’t a large inflow of funds from ETFs, I don’t think Bitcoin’s price can reach $100k that quickly.
Likewise, I don't think bitcoin can hit $1 million or compete with gold in market capitalization without central bank intervention.
I believe that Bitcoin will hit $1M in the future but it won't hit $1M price too soon. I agree with you that central banks nationally and globally will try to do more regulations under government request and also interventions with Bitcoin market and services related to Bitcoin in the future. Bitcoin won't separate itself completely from governments and central banks, and as Bitcoin investors and users we must have that realistic vision on Bitcoin growth in the future. From $120,000 to $1M, the pathway to a 7-figure price milestone is far but is reachable. Next market cycle in 2028: $200,000 Two market cycles in 2032: $300,000 Three market cycles in 2036: $400,000 Four market cycles in 2040: $500,000 In 2044: $600,000 In 2048: $700,000 and so on. Bitcoin can hit $1M price milestone in 2048, 2052, 2056, and you see it is only 30 more years, not too soon but not too far. Bitcoin has been here already 16 years since 2009.
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Of course, bitcoin can still function just fine without government intervention or strategic bitcoin reserves. But without those catalysts, bitcoin will have a hard time achieving bigger things, like competing with gold. Something that many bitcoin investors have always wanted.
Is it not better for Bitcoin to have that hard time going slow and steady and be crawling down to wherever it wants to be than having the government involved to fasten the process and have the power of manipulation in their hands, which can still bring it down from the top if they make a reverse move which stands against what contributed to its push up? I'm not against bitcoin now being seen as a big asset and store of value by many investors, institutional and on a national level; my concern is the market manipulation power which then holding a higher portion of bitcoin gives to them, and I'm not necessarily concerned about Bitcoin competing with Gold market capitalization.
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I think that will be a welcome development,if the bill goes through and approved to make Bitcoin become a national reserve.it will change the wrong notations other countries of the world have against Bitcoin. With that I sincerely believe its market value will be raised.
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another elected government can come in trash all these plans immediately the current tenure is over. This is why I don't think we need to be super reliant on the strategy reserve from the US government being talked about.
Yeah, if the Democrats probably get back power, then we might go back to something similar to the Biden administration, were every crypto policy of government was regressive for the network and its growth. We'll see what happens, however i don't think bitcoiners are reliant on the positive news coming out from countries and institutions, BTC is decentralized, so it obviously can survive without any of it, but if a news is big and good, then it is worth 'celebrating'.
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I think that will be a welcome development,if the bill goes through and approved to make Bitcoin become a national reserve.it will change the wrong notations other countries of the world have against Bitcoin. With that I sincerely believe its market value will be raised.
And I think that it doesn't matter whether it goes through or not. It's all a big hoax. I don't know who is playing who, is it the FED and those holding bitcoin ignoring Trump, or maybe it's Trump himself. Lets start with the fact that there was an executive order signed by Trump in March. The order gave each agency holding bitcoin to report how much they have within 30 days and this has not been done. I've read that some agencies had trouble finding coins. When the audit is complete the funds were supposed to be transferred to a single wallet, but again this has not been done. The person responsible for this was David Sacks who employed Bo Hines who was eager to do the work and to be honest might have been a good choice for this position, but a few months ago Hines resigned. According to rumors it's because they were hitting brick walls everywhere with no crypto laws being voted and agencies that hold bitcoin not cooperating with them. IMO he resigned because he wasn't able to get any BTC for the reserve, or the coins were being sold. Why do I suspect foul play? Because Scott Bessent was asked in an interview about the bitcoin reserve and said that "we will stop selling crypto" and that was months after the executive order was signed! So they were selling coins that were supposed to be in the reserve? It all stinks and I don't expect much from this lying administration.
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I think that will be a welcome development,if the bill goes through and approved to make Bitcoin become a national reserve.it will change the wrong notations other countries of the world have against Bitcoin. With that I sincerely believe its market value will be raised.
You probably are not following up with what's happening around bitcoin, that the US proposed reserve policy to accumulate bitcoin through purchase has been abandoned. Their major source of owning bitcoin now is just by seizure, which is not what other countries which took the idea of strategic reserve are doing on their own side. Few countries have already started accumulating It's now like something they are making move to see who will accumulate first and higher over the other.
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Just for context. Those Bitcoins that they got are the ones that they seized from various fraudulent websites like mixers in the past. They didn't bought a single Bitcoin at all. --- Questions ~~~
Do you think this move means the U.S. will never dump its BTC again? And what happens if other countries start doing the same, will this change how Bitcoin’s supply behaves long-term?
Nope. At some point, they will dump the Bitcoins that they're currently holding because if I remember correctly, they'll be using that money to pay off the debts. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but I don't think that they're dumb enough to hold their Bitcoin holdings FOREVER. If other countries will do the same, there will be a "supply squeeze" that will happen, and that could push prices to a higher price, BUT that will only be possible IF they bought it on exchanges. Most of the companies who are holding significant amount of Bitcoins bought theirs through the OTC that's why there's no immediate effect to it's price when they bought it. Bitcoin's circulating supply will shrink for sure and that will push the prices go higher. The problem though is when they sell their Bitcoins AT ONCE. Well, they abandoned the idea already so the Bitcoins that they got from seizures, and the Bitcoins that they'll be getting in the future from illegal activities are the only Bitcoins that they might be holding, and they'll not be buying at all.
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There’s a proposed bill in the U.S. called the BITCOIN Act of 2025, which aims to create what they call a “Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.” If this bill eventually passes, it would mean the government’s seized and held Bitcoins would officially be treated as national reserve assets, not something they can just sell anytime.
I personally see this as another attempt to entice other countries to buy dollars, with the ultimate goal of maintaining dominance, and the only way is with BTC. I'm not surprised that the BTC price continues to climb, despite corrections along the way. This discourse conveys a message that, when interpreted, implies that Bitcoin is now considered to have geopolitical value, not just a digital commodity. With the policy of making it a strategic national reserve, especially if other countries follow suit, the domino effect on the BTC price will be extraordinary. Of course, they could sell their BTC at any time, and that would be fine if it were done transparently and gradually. But, if they sold it all at once, they would devalue their own assets. I think they would be very selective if they chose to do so, because they know this is a potential asset and they know Bitcoin will soon become like modern gold as well as economic diplomacy or long-term value reserves.
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October 13, 2025, 02:02:37 AM |
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I believe that Bitcoin will hit $1M in the future but it won't hit $1M price too soon. I agree with you that central banks nationally and globally will try to do more regulations under government request and also interventions with Bitcoin market and services related to Bitcoin in the future.
Bitcoin won't separate itself completely from governments and central banks, and as Bitcoin investors and users we must have that realistic vision on Bitcoin growth in the future.
From $120,000 to $1M, the pathway to a 7-figure price milestone is far but is reachable.
Next market cycle in 2028: $200,000 Two market cycles in 2032: $300,000 Three market cycles in 2036: $400,000 Four market cycles in 2040: $500,000 In 2044: $600,000 In 2048: $700,000 and so on.
Bitcoin can hit $1M price milestone in 2048, 2052, 2056, and you see it is only 30 more years, not too soon but not too far. Bitcoin has been here already 16 years since 2009.
I love realistic predictions like this. I also believe bitcoin will hit 1 million but I don't agree with the exaggerated predictions that it will hit that target by 2030, 2035 as some people are spreading. It can be said that the period of short-term exponential growth is over, bitcoin will not be able to increase x5-x10 in just 5 or 10 years. Bitcoin is no longer a get rich quick scheme. But many people are still haunted by the past and do not want to let go, they still believe that bitcoin will be able to increase x10, x100 in the next 16 years and make them rich like the early investors.
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November 08, 2025, 05:10:25 AM |
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There’s a proposed bill in the U.S. called the BITCOIN Act of 2025, which aims to create what they call a “Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.” If this bill eventually passes, it would mean the government’s seized and held Bitcoins would officially be treated as national reserve assets, not something they can just sell anytime. According to the official White House statement,“Government BTC deposited into the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve shall not be sold and shall be maintained as reserve assets.” (source: whitehouse.gov) That’s a big shift from how people used to see U.S. holdings. Before, everyone worried that the government might dump seized Bitcoins, like those taken from Silk Road and other criminal cases and cause a market panic. But now, it seems they want to hold it as a long-term national asset instead. U.S. Bitcoin HoldingsEstimated total: around 198,000 BTC, worth roughly $23–24 billion at current prices. (source: bitcointreasuries.net) Does This Mean “No More Dumps”? Maybe yes, maybe not. The “shall not be sold” clause sounds strong, but remember, laws and executive orders can always be amended or reversed in the future. Still, it’s a good sign. It means the U.S. is now viewing Bitcoin as something worth keeping, not just selling off for cash. It also reduces the risk of those sudden liquidation events that used to scare the market. Questions ~~~ Do you think this move means the U.S. will never dump its BTC again? And what happens if other countries start doing the same, will this change how Bitcoin’s supply behaves long-term? We are just trying to understand it right we own the strategic crypto reserve branding but we arn't no.1 on google search for strategic crypto reserve its like everyone on earth just doesnt' make sense.
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November 08, 2025, 06:14:08 AM |
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Does This Mean “No More Dumps”?
Genuinely, if there's no dump at any point in time; Bitcoin won't have any value. How do you ascertain the value of something if it's not through the interactions of buyers and sellers? Of course, it's through that. No one finds the value of their assets, take landed properties for instance, until they're subjected to the dynamics of the market That's how value is created. As for if the US will dump? I don't think so but I know it will certainly take profit from time to time. That makes business sense.
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November 08, 2025, 06:31:16 AM |
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As for if the US will dump? I don't think so but I know it will certainly take profit from time to time. That makes business sense.
That depends. If the Democrats win the presidential election, they could reverse the bitcoin policy, but I hope that over time it will become such an important issue that both parties will agree on it. With regard to business sense, it is assumed that in Fort Knox there are 147.34 million troy ounces (4,583 metric tons) of gold which have been sitting there untouched for many decades. It doesn't make much sense to get rid of premium assets that keep increasing in value. I hope the same will happen with bitcoin in the strategic reserve.
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November 08, 2025, 06:44:43 AM |
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The law can always be amended at anytime so what they are saying there is just for the moment and does not hold any force. The US are never trusted whenever things of this nature comes up as seen in the words of their President whom just come on air and say something that affects the market and not minding the consequences of what he has said.
The US strategic reserve is a nice idea but they never invested in Bitcoin but rather ceased Bitcoin are what is to be converted into the national reserve and these are people's assets that were stolen which should have been possibly returned back to them through the safest and more reliable means but they chose to hold onto it and making it a national reserve. If they can act this way, is it law that they can not amend under seconds to suit their main goal?
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November 08, 2025, 06:49:51 AM |
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Bitcoin respect the chart more than whales and big institutional, when it is time to go into a bear market there is never thing that can stop it, these is why big whales have been taking profit after bitcoin reached 126k, it could actually be the top but they respect the chart too and start taking profits.
There is time for everything, even Fiat which many people preferred the most get times when they should print and when they should not print, Bitcoin is volatile and this creates opportunity to buy and sell when the time is right, Bitcoin reserve can't stop bitcoin from volatility, even if all the countries in the world decide to use Bitcoin as reserve volatility is still something to look out for, it is funny when some people on here said that from now on Bitcoin won't be as volatile as before, that's not so true, volatility is not even a problem.
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November 08, 2025, 07:30:52 AM Last edit: November 08, 2025, 07:57:00 AM by fuguebtc |
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The law can always be amended at anytime so what they are saying there is just for the moment and does not hold any force. The US are never trusted whenever things of this nature comes up as seen in the words of their President whom just come on air and say something that affects the market and not minding the consequences of what he has said.
With just one signature from Trump, the United States has a strategic Bitcoin reserve, meaning everything can be reversed with just one more signature from him. Or that strategic reserve will suddenly become ineffective when his term ends and another president comes in and abolishes it. The US strategic bitcoin reserve is unreliable because it is only recognized by a president with a term of only 4 years. The US strategic reserve is a nice idea but they never invested in Bitcoin but rather ceased Bitcoin are what is to be converted into the national reserve and these are people's assets that were stolen which should have been possibly returned back to them through the safest and more reliable means but they chose to hold onto it and making it a national reserve. If they can act this way, is it law that they can not amend under seconds to suit their main goal?
They don't need to return it because returning it to the victim would be costly and time consuming. It is not as simple as we think. They can retain it and auction it off for the benefit of the government and the people, and this is perfectly legal under their federal laws. What they did was not wrong but it should be noted, they only keep it as part of the government treasury. Those bitcoins are not national reserves like gold, because under US federal law, seized assets cannot be added to national reserves. This means the US does not have a national bitcoin reserve, and many people are still confused about this.
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November 08, 2025, 07:53:01 AM |
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Bitcoin respect the chart more than whales and big institutional, when it is time to go into a bear market there is never thing that can stop it, these is why big whales have been taking profit after bitcoin reached 126k, it could actually be the top but they respect the chart too and start taking profits.
There is time for everything, even Fiat which many people preferred the most get times when they should print and when they should not print, Bitcoin is volatile and this creates opportunity to buy and sell when the time is right, Bitcoin reserve can't stop bitcoin from volatility, even if all the countries in the world decide to use Bitcoin as reserve volatility is still something to look out for, it is funny when some people on here said that from now on Bitcoin won't be as volatile as before, that's not so true, volatility is not even a problem.
Very correct, Bitcoin must obey the law of demand and supply which is what keeps it going, anyways keeping the seized coins instead of dunping is a bold step for a great nation, it's good news cause things like that triggers more adaption but it doesn't guarantee that there would be no dump cause Bitcoin obeys no one but demand and supply. Therefore it must undergo correction thereby dumping and retracing, anyways I just like how it's shown strong resistance at $100k lately it's shows that there's hope for those who strongly believe in it, well what you've just said is something new investors don't understand, they really don't know that volatility is part of Bitcoin and not an issue for those who tend to hold it longer.
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November 08, 2025, 08:58:00 AM |
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As for if the US will dump? I don't think so but I know it will certainly take profit from time to time. That makes business sense.
That depends. If the Democrats win the presidential election, they could reverse the bitcoin policy, but I hope that over time it will become such an important issue that both parties will agree on it. With regard to business sense, it is assumed that in Fort Knox there are 147.34 million troy ounces (4,583 metric tons) of gold which have been sitting there untouched for many decades. It doesn't make much sense to get rid of premium assets that keep increasing in value. I hope the same will happen with bitcoin in the strategic reserve. If I remember correctly, the Biden administration sold 9kBTC in March 2023 and 21kBTC in December 2024 before the Trump administration took over the White House. Therefore, if the Democrats return, it is entirely possible that they will continue to sell the remaining bitcoins. These bitcoins cannot be sold at will unless they pass the Bitcoin Act, which would make bitcoin part of the national reserve. But to do that, it would require the approval of both parties, which is not going to happen at this point as Democrats remain unfriendly to bitcoin. We need to accept the fact bitcoin is not yet as respected as gold. They can sell it at any time, which could even happen under Trump.
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Satofan44
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November 08, 2025, 09:29:15 PM |
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The US strategic bitcoin reserve is unreliable because it is only recognized by a president with a term of only 4 years.
This is a useless statement. It is as if you said a toddler is not yet strong because it is only 2 years old. Obviously it is not even possible for anything else to be the case. Time needs to pass; stating the obvious is not an argument. Celebrate the successes, don't look for flaws that don't exist yet. They don't need to return it because returning it to the victim would be costly and time consuming. It is not as simple as we think. They can retain it and auction it off for the benefit of the government and the people, and this is perfectly legal under their federal laws.
They are not going to auction it off, you didn't even read media headlines that relate to this topic before you wrote this post. What they did was not wrong but it should be noted, they only keep it as part of the government treasury. Those bitcoins are not national reserves like gold, because under US federal law, seized assets cannot be added to national reserves. This means the US does not have a national bitcoin reserve, and many people are still confused about this.
True, but not relevant at this point of time either. Had they gone through this route we would not see any reserve for a long time. There is a long serious of laws and adjustments that need to be done before something can be added to the "national reserve". We need to accept the fact bitcoin is not yet as respected as gold. They can sell it at any time, which could even happen under Trump.
The same way, Democrats can vote to sell the gold that is in the national reserve once they come into power. This isn't a valid argument either.
The important thing here is that this has finally been accomplished. This step should be celebrated instead of looking for flaws or discouraging arguments. Bitcoin can't mature in the US policy would this stepping stone. As the industry grows further, no significant politician will be able to strongly oppose it. Democrats are as corrupt as they come. Once all major banks and financial companies are deeply tied to Bitcoin, they will come on board. They always do. 
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November 08, 2025, 09:55:13 PM |
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The law can always be amended at anytime so what they are saying there is just for the moment and does not hold any force. The US are never trusted whenever things of this nature comes up as seen in the words of their President whom just come on air and say something that affects the market and not minding the consequences of what he has said.
The US strategic reserve is a nice idea but they never invested in Bitcoin but rather ceased Bitcoin are what is to be converted into the national reserve and these are people's assets that were stolen which should have been possibly returned back to them through the safest and more reliable means but they chose to hold onto it and making it a national reserve. If they can act this way, is it law that they can not amend under seconds to suit their main goal?
It can and there's possibilities that it will happen in future especially that not all officials really like the law and actions done by Trump on Bitcoin. That's why they didn't succeed on their BTC accumulation plans even if there's a senator push to create a law that allow US to accumulate Bitcoin since there lots of critics stop this to happen. Also we provably notice that US seems manipulating the market and I will not get surprise if they decide to dump their Bitcoins in future since somehow its expected that this situation will happen in future. Bitcoin strategic reserve idea is really cool but if they are just using their seized coin and will not accumulate still it will not give any big market effect.
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