Offshore Casinos Are the Real Heroes for Players in Restricted Countries

[Yamifoud]

It’s interesting how most offshore or Curacao-licensed casinos can still accept players from almost anywhere, even in countries where gambling is technically illegal. The trick, it seems is simple, they just don’t advertise or directly target those countries.

From what I’ve read, as long as these casinos aren’t promoting or marketing to restricted regions, they’re not breaking any local laws. Basically, players can still access their sites on their own, and the operator won’t face any lawsuit or penalty.

What do you guys think? For gamblers like us who live in countries where gambling is restricted, this might actually be our chance to still play. As long as these offshore casinos don’t advertise locally, they can still accept players quietly, and we can still enjoy gambling without worrying much about legal issues.

[retaur]

There are a lot of places where the onus is still on the casino to ensure they're complaint with laws of individuals that use them (especially if they're large enough to be able to ban certain countries from using their site IP wise).

You can usually, as an individual, use their site but your profits (should you make any) might be liable for tax. It is nice to use crypto gambling sites over regular local fiat ones because they're actually doing something interesting and a bit more innovative than most other places (like betting exchanges too).

[Yamifoud]

You can usually, as an individual, use their site but your profits (should you make any) might be liable for tax.

How would the government know I made a profit?

If I remit taxes and declare it came from casino winnings at an offshore casino, would I be foolish to get myself in trouble for breaking the law against gambling?

[stadus]

How would the government know I made a profit?

If I remit taxes and declare it came from casino winnings at an offshore casino, would I be foolish to get myself in trouble for breaking the law against gambling?

Of course they wouldn’t know, since in the first place they don’t even know you’re gambling. they can’t really force overseas casinos to give out your info either, especially if those sites aren’t regulated under their laws.

And honestly, the government isn’t that interested in the gamblers themselves, they know most gamblers lose anyway. what really catches their attention are the casinos, that’s where the real money and control are.

[Ruttoshi]

What do you guys think? For gamblers like us who live in countries where gambling is restricted, this might actually be our chance to still play. As long as these offshore casinos don’t advertise locally, they can still accept players quietly, and we can still enjoy gambling without worrying much about legal issues.

Of course, you have the freedom to still have fun by gambling in a global casino like those ones in oyr forum. Your government is the one missing out on benefitting from revenue gotten from casinos. Online gambling has made it easy for gamblers living in a country that gambling is prohibited to still have the to gamble whenever they want.

 You are not paying any tax on profits only if you are using an exchange to convert your crypto to fiat but as long as your profit remains in crypto and kept in your self custody wallet, you ain't paying tax to no one because it's impossible for them to know if you're gambling or not.

[JeffBrad12]

That's the reason why a strict country should think for twice in banning gambling. I meant Offshores casino became paradise for all of people from the restricted countries. They helped to by pass the strict rules created by the government. How much potential income that went to the offshores casino's pocket instead of government. it should be the main concern.

[Dave1]

You can usually, as an individual, use their site but your profits (should you make any) might be liable for tax.

How would the government know I made a profit?

If I remit taxes and declare it came from casino winnings at an offshore casino, would I be foolish to get myself in trouble for breaking the law against gambling?

The burden is on you, whether you want to report it or not. But for sure, you won't as you know that your government are not allowing gambling and you somewhat circumvent it by playing online. So forget about tax, majority here are not going to declare, simply as that. I won't say that they are heroes, but off shore casino has open up a lot of doors and options for us.

And we can go back to the pandemic 4-5 years ago wherein everything stop. But then again the brilliance of online casinos to established this business, yes we have online casinos already but you could see the growth and explosion on the last couple of years and thanks to the pandemic as this is the offshoot of it.

[Russlenat]

That's the reason why a strict country should think for twice in banning gambling. I meant Offshores casino became paradise for all of people from the restricted countries. They helped to by pass the strict rules created by the government. How much potential income that went to the offshores casino's pocket instead of government. it should be the main concern.

If the income means nothing to them, then sure, it’s fine. But wouldn’t it be kind of an insult if they make a ban and it turns out to be useless? it just shows how incompetent they are.

and instead of that money going to the government where it could actually help the economy, it ends up going to offshore sites that don’t even pay taxes here. that’s something they should really think about before making a ban, because once they ban and then unban later, gamblers might not come back anymore, they’ll get used to playing offshore where it’s tax free.

[KTChampions]

It’s interesting how most offshore or Curacao-licensed casinos can still accept players from almost anywhere, even in countries where gambling is technically illegal. The trick, it seems is simple, they just don’t advertise or directly target those countries.

From what I’ve read, as long as these casinos aren’t promoting or marketing to restricted regions, they’re not breaking any local laws. Basically, players can still access their sites on their own, and the operator won’t face any lawsuit or penalty.

What do you guys think? For gamblers like us who live in countries where gambling is restricted, this might actually be our chance to still play. As long as these offshore casinos don’t advertise locally, they can still accept players quietly, and we can still enjoy gambling without worrying much about legal issues.

Yes, that's true. I'm very glad there are so many services that turn a blind eye (or don't care at all) to where their customers come from. For example, I am from a sanctioned country, and why should I suffer (even though I personally have not committed any crimes, or at all against the government of my country) because I have the “wrong” passport? The Internet was created as a new free sphere, but unfortunately, the damned states are seizing power here too, thank God, islands of freedom still exist.

[alani123]

Heroes? I don't know.

I live in a country with proper licenses issued by the government and I still play in offshore casinos when I want to spend some money on gambling.
The reason is that to the licensed casinos there's no sense of provable fairness and they also don't host any games with 1% house edge or lower.
There's no computer blackjack where if you play right you can get house edge lower than 1% or there's no dice with a stable 1% house edge. Aviator has 3% edge etc.

So while a government license can mean a site won't outright steal your unused deposit, it's also not guaranteeing anything in terms of fairness. Predetermined rolls are not guaranteed and house edge there is low. In other words, you're robbed blind and the governments don't care because this way they make more money.

So even us in non-restricted countries like to play in offshore casinos because they're more fair and innovative.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

There are some casinos too that will not allow a country where gambling is restricted to access their website and once a player use IP blocker to access the casino and it gets detected, the account will be locked. So, if you are looking for the one to play on, let it be that you can access the site in your country, and if not, before you use IP blocker, make sure they allow it to avoid penalty, but sure, offshore casino helps individuals that are living in a country that restricts gambling.

[Free Market Capitalist]

From what I’ve read, as long as these casinos aren’t promoting or marketing to restricted regions, they’re not breaking any local laws. Basically, players can still access their sites on their own, and the operator won’t face any lawsuit or penalty.

What you say is partly incorrect. Those casinos should not accept players from those countries, and that is stated in their Terms of Service. Some block them directly, but many others turn a blind eye.

I live in a country with proper licenses issued by the government and I still play in offshore casinos when I want to spend some money on gambling.
The reason is that to the licensed casinos there's no sense of provable fairness and they also don't host any games with 1% house edge or lower.
There's no computer blackjack where if you play right you can get house edge lower than 1% or there's no dice with a stable 1% house edge. Aviator has 3% edge etc.

HAHAHA, so basically you're gambling illegally because casinos that have a Curaçao license pay less tax and therefore charge you less. Curaçao has low public spending, low taxes, and regulations, but it seems that in this case, austerity does not bother you.

[iv4n]

Well, they are not here to help you avoid restrictions, they are here to take your money... And if you get caught breaking the rules, your heroes will just turn their heads and say: "We said that we are not responsible for the laws in your country". In other words, go fuck yourself, your loss is only good if you lose in our house. Hard truth...

Let's not mix up the idea of Bitcoin, and I would be free to add some other coins, even some others wouldn't agree with them, with crypto gambling... especially with crypto casinos.

[alani123]

HAHAHA, so basically you're gambling illegally because casinos that have a Curaçao license pay less tax and therefore charge you less. Curaçao has low public spending, low taxes, and regulations, but it seems that in this case, austerity does not bother you.

I'll admit you're correct but only partly in terms of what you conclude.

Is Curacao implementing austerity? On paper it's a Netherlands territory so I doubt they're a low government spending territory. I haven't studied their economy much to know more. Not that it matters though because they're an outlier on everything. If we put them side to side to any country, no other place could have such large percentage of its income from gambling because Curacao is a tiny place with very low population.

But yes, as a gambler it's always in your interest to go with casinos that offer the lowest house edge.

As of gambling licenses, do as I say and not as I do! We're talking national politics here, not self intrrests. In my country gambling was legalized with local government licenses and now you see ads everywhere. This has lead to an increase in government earnings from gambling but also the gambling economy is becoming too big now. Online casinos had a turnover of around 30b EUR while our GDP is around 200b EUR.

So now the government has created an unstoppable industry and addiction is running rampant. I'd personally see online gambling remain banned if it were to ruin so many people.

[Cointxz]

I don’t what you guys think about Curacao license but it’s not bulletproof on liability with law if they accept user from restricted country.

Casino ToS just don’t specifically list all the restricted country but they do have a terms that include other country with gambling restrictions that doesn’t mentioned.

Casino is liable if they accept user from country that has forbid them to gamble. The catch is the government can’t watch all the casino that accept user from this countries.

This is the reason why some user freeze their account once they are asked to KYC.

[Taskford]

It’s interesting how most offshore or Curacao-licensed casinos can still accept players from almost anywhere, even in countries where gambling is technically illegal. The trick, it seems is simple, they just don’t advertise or directly target those countries.

From what I’ve read, as long as these casinos aren’t promoting or marketing to restricted regions, they’re not breaking any local laws. Basically, players can still access their sites on their own, and the operator won’t face any lawsuit or penalty.

What do you guys think? For gamblers like us who live in countries where gambling is restricted, this might actually be our chance to still play. As long as these offshore casinos don’t advertise locally, they can still accept players quietly, and we can still enjoy gambling without worrying much about legal issues.

Technically they still have certain regulation implemented on their platform.

Since those offshore casino still have country restrictions so if you see that your country is on their list then you cannot gamble on those casino.

So maybe check if you are really allowed since if you are trying to do nasty thing and bypass those restrictions by using VPN or other tools maybe you might experience getting serious issue on the casino since they are also following the law.

[snipie]

You can usually, as an individual, use their site but your profits (should you make any) might be liable for tax.

How would the government know I made a profit?

If I remit taxes and declare it came from casino winnings at an offshore casino, would I be foolish to get myself in trouble for breaking the law against gambling?

I think there is a risk depending from countries regulations. I mean if a country is banning just casino from operating in its territories then it is fine but if gambling as a whole is prohibited even if it is not clearly written in the laws then I am afraid that legal measures will be taken and your money will be hold by the government and even you can face charge of money laundering. You have to prove from where you brought the money in the first place to bet with it and if you have the right to send it abroad. Then once you won and decided to bring that money home, you have to prove from where it comes and if it is legal, taxable, like 25% more or less... There are a lot of details to check in every country before trying to do a move.

[crwth]

The internet has provided so many things, and this subject is probably one of the things that people could take advantage of. I'm curious about how the cross-border enforcement works and if there are people who take it seriously because the casinos are probably getting KYC and AML compliance to see if there are red flags with members.

I'm not sure it's safe to say that this is a "workaround" type of thing.

[danherbias07]

That's the first time I heard about that kind of ruling.

I didn't know that offshore online gambling sites can still be accessed by countries that restrict online gambling. Thank you for that information. Here in our place, there are only games that cannot be played, and even offshore gambling sites cannot do anything about it. I guess it's the provider that's limiting the access, and it must not be changed.

Anyway, have you tested it? What games can you play and on what site?

[DubemIfedigbo001]

It’s interesting how most offshore or Curacao-licensed casinos can still accept players from almost anywhere, even in countries where gambling is technically illegal. The trick, it seems is simple, they just don’t advertise or directly target those countries.

Most times these casinos might not even know the players are from restricted countries since these players engage with VPNs and route through countries that are eligible. I've read of scenarios where players forgets to turn on their VPNs while playing a and their accounts are flagged. The truth is that gamblers must find a way to satisfy their desires and these countries declaring gambling illegal are only enriching the casinos since they get the patronage and don't pay taxes.

Additionally they're making gamblers from their country more vulnerable since they cannot seek legal redress when treated unfairly by the casino.