Trim quoting goes wrong

[Cryptohygenic]

I don't really know how best to explain. Also hope here is the right place to post this  .
I understand the essence of "Trim Quoting" is to avoid clutter but an extent,  some users jumps into the conversations and trims very irrationally making the other users information appear less quality before the public by single quoting the user in the nest posts and then shrinks the importance and values of the user he is quoting information at its necessity.
Such quality of post usually  brings red herring in a different context of the parents posts.

If you ever have experience to what I am saying, can you describe how you feel when unnecessary single quote you from a nest post just to get your post less relevant in a different context?

[Mrbluntzy]

If you ever have experience to what I am saying, can you describe how you feel when unnecessary single quote you from a nest post just to get your post less relevant in a different context?

Quoting someone's comment in a snip doesn't make the comment to be irrelevant because a reader that is really interested on the snip quoted comment can simply click on the hyperlink of that quoted comment (judt above the comment) and it will be immediately directed to the entire comment that was quoted. A good reader, or someone that reads to comprehend the whole essence of the post they are reading would go back to the first quoted comment to see the linkage of the later comment that quotes the first.

It's normal that someone can snip your comment and pick out a few lines that they want to criticize, but that shouldn't be a problem to you, if other readers are interested on the comment, they will go back to the original comment that have been quoted.

[Hatchy]

How exactly does trimming a quote makes it less relevant? I want to reply to a particular phrase on a post, do I leave the whole write up, quoting the parent post? How then do you expect the next reader or the op I'm quoting to understand what I'm replying to? Just like Mrbluntzy already said, you can easily refer back to the parent post by clicking on the quote link. Sometimes to make it known that the post was trimmed, some users usually add the

Code:

~Snip~

to the trimmed part. There's no discussion here mate.

[retaur]

Quotes are pointers to where you can find the context the user's responding to. It's up to you to follow the "nest" and read the quotes above.

Users should provide enough context for the post above in their posts if they're quote replying with a snip and if they don't their post is probably the low quality one...

[Mia Chloe]

~snip

Well actually I don't know about other users but for me personally, I use ~snip to trim when I'm making a general or rather a summarised reply to what the person has previously said. The point is I'm either contributing or supporting or against your opinion when I quote. Let's assume you make 3 points and I agree with them and I just want to add to it then I'll use snip like I did here.

However if I for example agree disagree with 2 of those points, when I'm replying I'll quote each point separately and reply to them separately.

[uchegod-21]

A particular phrase, clause, context or paragraph in a quote may pick my interest and require me to address it. I can always trim out the unnecessary part, leaving just the part I want to respond to. This even makes the post clearer to read and understand, instead of having multiple quotes and write ups which might not hit the nail on the head the way I wanted.

I don't know why you have a problem with this. Partial quoting is very valid in this forum and it is a means of communication as long as the response is not out of context

[Ambatman]

If you ever have experience to what I am saying, can you describe how you feel when unnecessary single quote you from a nest post just to get your post less relevant in a different context?

From my understanding and limited scope, I don't think anybody trims post to make it less relevant.
They are singled out because they are what caught our attention.


I just trimmed your post. Does that make it less relevant?


It might become an issue if it's not quoted in a  way the parent post can be located.

[LTU_btc]

I understand your point, but I don't see problem there. As already said, if you're interested you can click on post and read it in full. Yeah, sometimes users quotes irrationally, but still, I think it's a bit better than quoting full post, especially if it's lenghty. BTW, if you already raised this question, maybe you have solutions for this problem? Because I don't see how these things can be changed.
I only annoyed when some users takes words out of context when quoting.

[Xal0lex]

Technically, posts with quote pyramids are considered low quality posts.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

[...]

Examples:

1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

Here's an example: I quoted mprep's post with the forum rules. I cut out the part I needed. Imagine if I had quoted his entire lengthy post.

[DYING_S0UL]

Imagine a long massive article sized topic! Or multiple quotation. Would you quote the entire thing?  I wouldn't, as it would look messy or unclean in that thread. Instead i would just trim the post add snip and keep the part intact that I wanna reply to. A topic may contain many things, many important points, but some may be interested in replying to one thing, it's not necessarily required that we need to cover all the points. I hope you understood what I was referring to. Trimming a post would never make it less quality. You can still go to the source from the link and read the extended/original/unedited content.

[mikel_012]

I always remove the part that is irrelevant to the reply and leave for context what I think someone needs to read to understand my post.

I never read a post with trimmed quotes and think the quality is bad because there is one line and the rest was removed by the user that replied. I think this is not an issue.

[Merit.s]

A post is trim doesn't mean that it has lost itself value of the context. It's a norm to only comment on the points that you want to discuss on instead of quoting the whole OP. When I just registered on the forum that was what I learned first because I love the way it looks when you trim a post and comment on your interested part of the post. Post trim gives room for you to quote more than two people post and reply one after the order below the trimmed post. It's a sign of quality post and shows your area of concentration on the people's comment or the OP.

[Pi-network314159]

I don't really know how best to explain. Also hope here is the right place to post this  .
I understand the essence of "Trim Quoting" is to avoid clutter but an extent,  some users jumps into the conversations and trims very irrationally making the other users information appear less quality before the public by single quoting the user in the nest posts and then shrinks the importance and values of the user he is quoting information at its necessity.
Such quality of post usually  brings red herring in a different context of the parents posts.

If you ever have experience to what I am saying, can you describe how you feel when unnecessary single quote you from a nest post just to get your post less relevant in a different context?

Single quoting does not mean to trim out the important of the other person post. But it is a way of pinpointing or summarizing the post in other not to quote the entire post of the other person. It is not possible to quote everything to maintain the quality of the post. You should know that each quote contain the whole information of that post so even though you cut it, it is certain that clicking in the hiperlink will take you to the original post where you can get the whole information. So it's not a big deal. But a way of reducing pyramid quoting and reducing spamming.

[Obim34]

If you ever have experience to what I am saying, can you describe how you feel when unnecessary single quote you from a nest post just to get your post less relevant in a different context?

I have used ~Snip a few times and i don't think it is bad to use or anyone feel bad about it, that makes you the first expressing dissatisfaction.

The trim quoting is basically used or more importantly used when responding to a large wall of reply, instead of quoting every paragraph you need to respond just give your points in one.

~Snip

Anyone that wants to read complete text of the trimmed post can click on quote link with username and date of posting.

[Cryptohygenic]

I understand your point, but I don't see problem there. As already said, if you're interested you can click on post and read it in full. Yeah, sometimes users quotes irrationally, but still, I think it's a bit better than quoting full post, especially if it's lenghty. BTW, if you already raised this question, maybe you have solutions for this problem? Because I don't see how these things can be changed.
I only annoyed when some users takes words out of context when quoting.

I have to say this that you understand my point better. So it is not really that I am kicking against trim quoting because it also keep the conversation easy going.
Some users trim quotes contentions are red herring from the contexts of the conversation in the nest post.
For instance the point of discussion is about volatility market and the other user trim quoting misinterprets the context of a particular users in the nest post creating controversial to the quoted post before public.
So when you click on the hyperlink of the post you will see that the trimmers post was totally off from the original context.

[Richbased]

I think i understand what the OP is tryna say, it's not as if OP is against trimming a whole text and only emphasize on a particular paragraph but what i understand is that OP is actually talking about those who do not read the whole contents of a post, they can just read the first paragraph and quote something they perceive as wrong sentence without reading through the whole text to know if it has been explained better. Just like a kind of anastrophe. Someone has done that to me before when i made a statement and later explained it better but he could only read the first paragraph and left the other line. It can be so annoying because it shows that most people do not even care to read the whole content of a post before snipping and quoting. Some people even goes as far as quoting someone who made a reply in a thread without reading the OP so that his reply can be in consonant with the subject of discussion.

[PX-Z]

You can just respond and correct the reply by quoting again what have you said, sometimes some users are like that, although it happens but not so often, some jus misunderstand or some just selective reading/hearing.

[CryptSafe]

OP I understand your point of view here, and it is a general experience were one would have their post trimmed or snipped to a single sentence from the whole statement made making it looks different from the original message the poster is trying to convey and they would initiate another conversation through the trimmed post making the thread looks like two conversations are going on and this would somehow distort the real purpose for which that thread was created.

At first you should know that this is a platform where everyone is free to engage in interaction and discussion in contributing to knowledge. Most times such snipping or trimming might have something new to learn from outside the topic of discussion. Oh yeah I have had similar experience in the past where I created a Topic but along the line I encountered a quote that was trimmed in between and the trimmer made a comment quite totally different from the subject of discussion but even at then I picked ideas and information from that trimmed quote as it was meaningful. One thing you should know is that no knowledge is a waste, every information has a purpose and your approach towards it determines how smart you are to learn new things.

In all, trimming or snipping should not be a thing of concern to you, you should not allow that bother you too much as it is part of the learning process here. So take it as an advantage to learn more from trimmed quote which looks quite different from OP.

[Cryptohygenic]

OP I understand your point of view here, and it is a general experience were one would have their post trimmed or snipped to a single sentence from the whole statement made making it looks different from the original message the poster is trying to convey and they would initiate another conversation through the trimmed post making the thread looks like two conversations are going on and this would somehow distort the real purpose for which that thread was created.

I can not just say that you are a stone throw to the point but arrived at the very right point.
So they trims the sentence in the contexts on the ongoing specified discussions and create a different branch of discussion off from the original topic. So some lazy users who may not be able to navigate through the hyperlink for better understanding of the discussion may takes it up and baselessly drives unnecessary discussions in the thread staring red herring.

[Zoomic]

Op, I understand how you feel and it has happened to me some few times. You will write something comprehensive and one smart person will edit out some parts and reply only to the contradictory part or less important parts. When you come back, you will understand that you had been quoted out of context.

This reminds us to be attentive and make every part of our post count. Don't neglect any part of your post, else it will become a loophole to be exploited.

However, every quote when clicked will take one to the main post. Any curious user will easily locate the real post.