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October 12, 2025, 11:02:45 PM
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That's how some casino just restrict it users having huge win, then giving reasons like arbitrage in sports bets for them to give excuse and confiscate their winnings or refund their deposits for "lighter restrictions" and called them considerate. It's unfortunate but it happens.

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October 12, 2025, 11:14:37 PM
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Because the jackpot also creates an advertisement. They may have given the jackpot, but that will also attract more players. As for consistent winners, of course, even you wouldn’t want your business to keep losing the same goes for bookmakers or casino owners. I’ve read and watched a few stories where a player got banned after consistently winning. True or not, I think it really happens. Your business is meant to earn you money, not give it away. Business is business.


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October 12, 2025, 11:25:14 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with winning consistently if you are not cheating, any bookmaker that has an issue with bettors that win consistently without using any forbidden systems cannot be trusted. Recently I read a thread about how a gambler couldn't claim his wins because the casino couldn't provide it. It's not hard to tell that bookmakers such like this will not pay out big wins to bettors
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October 13, 2025, 06:00:25 AM
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Of course, casinos don't like players who consistently win, as it can lead to losses or hinder their profits. But I've previously wondered if anyone can consistently profit from gambling, even if they're just a casual player.

I think it's almost impossible for anyone to consistently profit from gambling and consistently meet their needs through winnings. If that were the case, gambling could be considered a source of income, while using gambling as a source of income can have detrimental consequences.

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October 13, 2025, 06:21:50 AM
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I really dont know how much of this becomes actually true. Most of the scam accusations on the forum have some problem on part of the gambler, otherwise the money involved gets resolved on raising the issue.

Then regular winners is something that I dont see in casinos, because that is how it is supposed to be. If someone is winning consistently, they are probably cheating in some way or another, because otherwise it seems strange.

It might seem I am against the gamblers, but that is not the case, because I am trying to reason it out here. Feel free to correct me.

 
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October 13, 2025, 06:44:10 AM
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Of course, casinos don't like players who consistently win, as it can lead to losses or hinder their profits. But I've previously wondered if anyone can consistently profit from gambling, even if they're just a casual player.

I think it's almost impossible for anyone to consistently profit from gambling and consistently meet their needs through winnings. If that were the case, gambling could be considered a source of income, while using gambling as a source of income can have detrimental consequences.

They can consistently profit assuming they have a good sports analysis skills even though they are being restricted by casino.

You will notice that some user always have problem on different casino because they keep on creating new account to different casino once they are already restricted to a certain casino.

There’s a lot of new casino and existing casino that they can choose to gamble once they are already restricted.

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October 13, 2025, 07:07:54 AM
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I didn't know them personally but I have watched some clips in Youtube before about players that gets banned for card counting, though it's not illegal it is not encouraged by the casino owners since they are losing. It's different than winning the Jackpot, because winning a jackpot requires luck and the percentage of you winning it is really low, while the card counting is a skill/strategy to beat the casino. So far, I have been playing mostly online and haven't experienced getting banned or restricted in real physical casinos.

Before, I thought that it was only in movies that a person could count cards but when I watched the clip, you just need to be smart and practice a lot and you can achieve it.

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October 13, 2025, 07:38:25 AM
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‎A typical example to illustrate my point and let you understand why bookmakers don't like consistent winners will be:

‎The case of a gambler winning a $100 million jackpot on a slot machine versus a gambler winning $150k over a month playing blackjack while clearly counting cards.

‎While in the first case scenario, the casino will celebrate the winner of the $100 million and even let the public carry the news on every channel so as to bring in more desperate folks who intend to better their lot by gambling.

‎In the second instance, the casino is likely to ban the gambler who has won $150k over a month while counting cards at blackjack.‎

Your "typical" example is not typical at all.
One guy won the jackpot fair and square the other guy did his winnign by cheating!

It's like saying banks loving people that deposit money and hating people that rob them is discrimination!

It's different than winning the Jackpot, because winning a jackpot requires luck and the percentage of you winning it is really low, while the card counting is a skill/strategy to beat the casino.

The jackpot is part of the game, no matter how big it is it it's proportional to the sums the casino makes out of it, a game provider that only makes $1000 a day out of a game won't throw 20 mils as a jackpot on that game, with cards, there is no pot, a casino could have 10 players out of which 9 are couting cards screwing the balance out of control.

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October 13, 2025, 07:45:31 AM
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Because the jackpot also creates an advertisement. They may have given the jackpot, but that will also attract more players. As for consistent winners, of course, even you wouldn’t want your business to keep losing the same goes for bookmakers or casino owners. I’ve read and watched a few stories where a player got banned after consistently winning. True or not, I think it really happens. Your business is meant to earn you money, not give it away. Business is business.
Yes, it could be an advertisement outside of the casino business. By rewarding players with winnings, they're more likely to tell others about their wins, and they'll likely also tell the casino that awarded them the winnings. This will certainly attract more attention from other players who want to try their luck. Furthermore, if you win in a physical casino, many people will see it, making them more confident in their ability to win at that casino. However, casinos won't reward all players because, as you said, business is business, and the goal is to make a profit.

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October 13, 2025, 07:56:44 AM
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My question is this;
‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?

‎* or could it be something like this ban or restriction happened to you and you didn't take proper note?


I've actually meet a few guys both online and offline, and also heard stories too of people who were banned from accessing their account on a casino by the casino on the ground that they were winning too much, but this happens rarely or rarely happens, and it's mostly happens when or if the gambler is suspected of using manipulative means to win from the casino..

One that happens more frequently is restrictions, most casinos do not hesistate to restrict and or limit gamblers who are seen to be winning too much, it's clearly bad for their business.
This is why it is always advisable that gamblers who know that they are too good in a particular game should not focus on playing that particular game alone, they should try as much as possible to mix up, and sometimes, willingly loss a game or two as a way to have a balanced sheet, to avoid getting restricted or limited by the casino.

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October 13, 2025, 08:54:18 AM
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My question is this;
‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?
There are lot of such news all over, 5 famous people who’ve been banned from casinos and Ban from a Casino for Nothing Other Than Winning Too Much Money

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‎* or could it be something like this ban or restriction happened to you and you didn't take proper note
Something like that has never happened to me, and I hope it doesn't as well. I wish to be lucky enough to hit it big but not to be banned from the casino. Now that a new bill has been proposed for such to be stopped, let's hope it passes hearing and becomes law so that these casinos can stop treating winners that way.

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My question is this;
‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?


Not really, but it caught the attention of the casino and raised some suspicion of cheating, which led to an investigation. It may not say they hate gamblers keeping on winning, but I think they wanted fairness, just like how they show fairness to them as well. Because they know that gamblers more often lose than win. When they notice something unusual, they start to watch your movements, and sometimes, without solid proof, they ban gamblers from playing anymore.

However, if we are playing religiously, then banning is certainly not on our minds. But if we are guilty of doing it, even if we are never caught, that already raises concern. 

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October 13, 2025, 01:43:54 PM
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Serious casinos will not fire a customer just because that customer is making money constantly, they will limit that customer so that he does not bankrupt the casino, but strangely I read that the MMA guy was fired from a casino

https://www.sportbible.com/mma/ufc/ufc-news/dana-white-ufc-casino-money-gambling-ban-086404-20241129

Probably when casinos do this, they realize that if a guy can win consistently and that guy teaches it to more people, then there would be many people winning consistently, and if the guy starts increasing the bet amount, then the casino will go bankrupt. That's why casinos take action very early. Whether this is right or wrong, I honestly prefer not to give an opinion. I don't know if there is any casino that has included this in the TOS.

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October 13, 2025, 02:01:30 PM
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I really dont know how much of this becomes actually true. Most of the scam accusations on the forum have some problem on part of the gambler, otherwise the money involved gets resolved on raising the issue.

Then regular winners is something that I dont see in casinos, because that is how it is supposed to be. If someone is winning consistently, they are probably cheating in some way or another, because otherwise it seems strange.

It might seem I am against the gamblers, but that is not the case, because I am trying to reason it out here. Feel free to correct me.
I wonder how possible it is to keep winning regularly without losing for a while. Seems to me that there's more to their winning than the normal gambling process. In all my gambling on the casino and encounters with fellow gambler community, it's very rare if at all to see someone winning regularly and whenever such situations occur, it's obvious the gambler is cheating in some kind of way and the casino would always restrict the account temporarily to evaluate the fairness in his play patterns.

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‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?

‎* or could it be something like this ban or restriction happened to you and you didn't take proper note?

If you count cards, you can be banned from casinos. However, the most common way someone is banned is when they are an expert at a certain type of game and no one wants to play against them. It's not like they are actually banned, but their talent makes others afraid to play against them. Casinos monitor their users. If they see you making money regularly, they will observe you to find out why and determine whether you are cheating or not.

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My question is this;
‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?

‎* or could it be something like this ban or restriction happened to you and you didn't take proper note?
You do not need to even look for anyone who has such cases before but just go through the scam accusation section you would see how often many people has been complaining about some casino's restricting them from withdrawing their funds after countless of deposit on that site, but immediately they noticed that you have won substantial amount you would see them limiting you from having access to the gambling site so that you wouldn't be having that chance to make all withdrawal so easily.

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‎* Do you know any cases of gambler(s) chased out of or banned from visiting a casino or gambling platform because they won too much?

‎* or could it be something like this ban or restriction happened to you and you didn't take proper note?


Still considering the scenario, such as the deposit habits, withdrawals, and how they will use the platform, more like even its a slot game, table top games or even sports betting once they detected a suspicious activity with your account they will probably flag, but of course with due process which for sure they will seek an additional level of KYC to verify you are a real player and not just a bot and even to make sure the transactions. So far i didnt experienced it yet but most of the thread created here have the same problem but of course others get resolved and still others are open.

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I didn't gambling too much so, impossible to me to got banned from online casinos if the caused is too much win consistently but so far i had read the stories that some of gamblers known as the legend because they have fantastic winning consistently and indeed because of their reputation plenty of casinos were banned them that because they do not want to go bankrupt if those people playing at their places but i do not really sure these stories is valid or not but some casinos doesn't liked to the players with excellent winning statistics because the people like this probably will eat the profit which they got from other players so, probably the casinos will find a way to prevent these players from returning to play

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Here is the thing, if they find out that you win consistently and your wins are traced to arbitrage betting or every other system that's forbidden your account will stop functioning, they are going to ban it. If they notice that your wins are either random or you are just good at predicting games they might reduce that odds you have. This tells you that betting is nothing more than a losing game
Even if you are the owner of the casino, you would suspect a user who has been winning consistently to ascertain if he is cheating the system. This is because the system is built in a way that you win less and lose more. I think I have seen some cases of scam accusations where the casino freezes the account of a bettor who won big because of some flimsy excuses. Sometimes they release the funds after the intervention of some reputable members. This shows that the reason why these customers were targeted was because they won big or consistently.

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Naturally bookmakers wouldn't like a gambler that is exceptionally lucky, it is just a business psychology, if it is a reputable casino and they don't find the gambler cheating in anyway I don't think that they can ban such a player. Sooner or later the gambler's luck will turn around and the casino will start to recover their loses, I don't know if anybody's luck can continue to shine for a very long time except exceptional people. What I believe is that if a winner is on a winning streak a casino will most likely have a special interest on such a gambler. I have never heard that a gambler is banned simply because he is winning more, maybe it happens but it won't be fair because far more people lose their money regularly.

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