Are vccines good for people, especially children?

[BADecker]

For a long time people have been asking for studies that would show if vaccines are good. Such studies haven't been done properly. But finally the evidence over the benefits of vaccines is coming out into the open. It's starting to change the midds of pro-vaxx medical people.

Note that there are many proof links in the article that I haven't added to this forum page. If you want to see the proof, go to the actual article.


Bombshell Vax vs. Unvax Study Finally Sees the Light of Day -- And the Results Are Staggering


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/bombshell-vax-vs-unvax-study-finally-sees-light/
In 2016, Dr. Zervos crossed paths with Bigtree, who urged him to take on something public health had avoided for decades: a study comparing the health outcomes of vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

Dr. Zervos agreed, determined to prove Bigtree and other vaccine skeptics wrong. At the time, he vowed, "Whatever the results, they get published."

Both the buried study and the film are now available for everyone to see.

Before diving into Zervos's findings, the film laid out prior evidence raising serious questions about vaccine safety.

One striking example came from Dr. Peter Aaby. Once a vaccine believer, Dr. Aaby became a skeptic after discovering that the DTP vaccine he helped promote for African children led to 2.3 times higher mortality among the vaccinated.

Decades after launching the DTP program in Guinea-Bissau, Dr. Aaby realized only half the children there had received the shot — giving him a perfect comparative study between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

The DTP vaccine did protect against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis, but there was also more than a twofold increase in overall mortality. The results stunned Aaby, who now speaks openly about what he discovered.

"It's important to recognize that no routine vaccine was tested for overall effect on mortality in randomized trials before being introduced. I guess most of you think that we know what our vaccines are doing. We don't," he now teaches.

The film then turned to Dr. Paul Thomas, who had his license suspended after publishing this study.

Dr. Thomas studied 3,324 children and found unvaccinated kids had fewer doctor visits and better health outcomes.
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[Hispo]

I have gotten several vaccines through my life, for a handful of conditions, like difteria, yellow fever, and others.

Am I expected to die out of nowhere or something?
Very unlikely. Here in my country we have a very strong positive sentiment and trust towards vaccines, and yet our population has continued to grow through time, non-stop.

Since almost the one hundred percent of this country is vaccinated, then I would have expected to see a decline in the population by now, that has not happened...

[DeathAngel]

The long time tested & trusted vaccines are good for children, I think yes. At a very young age babies have the Measles, Mumps, Rubella vaccination amongst others like Meningitis & Smallpox vaccines. I didn’t have & wouldn’t have the COVID jab but there is no way I’d ever recommend a parent avoid giving their kids the other ones I mentioned.

[EluguHcman]

I have gotten several vaccines through my life, for a handful of conditions, like difteria, yellow fever, and others.

Am I expected to die out of nowhere or something?
Very unlikely. Here in my country we have a very strong positive sentiment and trust towards vaccines, and yet our population has continued to grow through time, non-stop.

Since almost the one hundred percent of this country is vaccinated, then I would have expected to see a decline in the population by now, that has not happened...

While I will agree with you that vaccine is not bad at all as the intention is to build immunes against certain diseases. But we can always leave our fates of these vaccines by the manufacturers and regulations. Anything can happen.

In my country we also have this immunization vaccines recommended for everyone from childhood so as to stay away from measles and other skin diseases like the chicken pox.
Over decades this vaccines has never been contradicted to any health reaction.

[BADecker]

The point is the literal, doctor authorized, tests. These tests need to be double-blind tests, with the test people being watched for whatever, over a period of at least ten years. On top of that, it needs to be ascertained that the shots given later, to the public, be made of the same materials as the test shots.

Covid-19 vaccines were never tested over ten years. They had to be brought out into the public fast, because, as we have now found, Covid is a lie, and ten years of testing would have brought this out into the open. (The simple cure for Covid and a host of other diseases is NICOTINE. Look at the Dr. Ardis info at the links at the bottom of this post.)

In addition, there are many doctors and researchers who have found that the vaccines are not really what they have been said to be. Among them are Del Bigtree and Dr. Andrew Kaufman.

You can't be vaccinated all your life, and then guess what you would be like if you hadn't been. And, the other way around. Thats the reason for the double-blind tests.


BREAKING: World’s First International Governing Body and Judicial Authority Declares mRNA Injections Biological and Technological Weapons of Mass Destruction


https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-worlds-first-international
The Alliance of Indigenous Nations International Tribunal - recognized by Canada on a Nation-to-Nation basis - has issued a historic global Order intended to take immediate worldwide effect.

By Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

First reported by Dr. Joseph Sansone and Lisa Miron, in a stunning and historic move, the Alliance of Indigenous Nations (A.I.N.) International Tribunal has issued an ORDER and DECLARATION stating that "mRNA nanoparticle injections are in fact biological and technological weapons of mass destruction."



"This Tribunal finds and hereby declares that the 'COVID-19 nanoparticle injections' or 'mRNA nanoparticle injections' or 'COVID-19 injections' meet the criteria of biological weapons and weapons of mass destruction according to the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act, of 1989 18 USC § 175; Weapons and Firearms § 790.166 Fla. Stat.(2023), Canada's Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention Implementation Act, 2004, and the International Biological Weapons Convention. This Order and Declaration is intended to have immediate worldwide effect."

This marks the first formal judicial declaration by any recognized international authority categorizing the COVID-19 mRNA products as biological weapons.
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[Richbased]

I have gotten several vaccines through my life, for a handful of conditions, like difteria, yellow fever, and others.

Am I expected to die out of nowhere or something?
Very unlikely. Here in my country we have a very strong positive sentiment and trust towards vaccines, and yet our population has continued to grow through time, non-stop.

Since almost the one hundred percent of this country is vaccinated, then I would have expected to see a decline in the population by now, that has not happened...

While I will agree with you that vaccine is not bad at all as the intention is to build immunes against certain diseases. But we can always leave our fates of these vaccines by the manufacturers and regulations. Anything can happen.

In my country we also have this immunization vaccines recommended for everyone from childhood so as to stay away from measles and other skin diseases like the chicken pox.
Over decades this vaccines has never been contradicted to any health reaction.

Vaccines fights against any intended disease that might want to attack the body and also gives immunity against any disease that might want surface in the future. It is very necessary to vaccinate the body whether an adult or a kid because different sicknesses are going viral now so if you get vaccinated it protects you for a very long time. If not for the vaccines that are given to children at a very tender age, the rate of child deaths would have been alarming. Yes of a truth, i haven't really heard about any side effects of vaccines but i don't know why some persons are afraid of taking vaccines, i don't think they are harmful to the body.

[passwordnow]

Vaccines for infants are important. They've got weaker immune system and that's why those vaccines that are recommended for them are needed. But parents can opt not to take it but there's a proven study about it. And after that, I think it's all natural growth and stronger immune system through the environment where these kids are growing up. I didn't got a lot of vaccinations as well and I think that it proves what's said about those people that have lesser vaccinations to being unvaccinated. But if it's me, I'd recommend it still for the younger ones for the specific diseases.

[BADecker]

Vaccines for infants are important. They've got weaker immune system and that's why those vaccines that are recommended for them are needed. But parents can opt not to take it but there's a proven study about it. And after that, I think it's all natural growth and stronger immune system through the environment where these kids are growing up. I didn't got a lot of vaccinations as well and I think that it proves what's said about those people that have lesser vaccinations to being unvaccinated. But if it's me, I'd recommend it still for the younger ones for the specific diseases.

Of course vaccines for infants are important. Why? A multitude of reasons. But major among them is that when these kids grow up, they will constantly need to go to some form of medical for some kind of vaccine caused illness or debilitation.

Probably 90% of American jobs have something directly to do with the medical. Think of all the unemployed people in America if these jobs were not needed any longer. So it's the childhood and infant vaccines that are keeping the future of the American economy afloat.

But it's not only vaccines. It's loads of other common medicines, as well.


Because Big Pharma owns our politicians,” RFK Jr. says. “And I’m telling them ...


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“Because Big Pharma owns our politicians,” RFK Jr. says. “And I’m telling them to get lost.”
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[tvbcof]

Most people have never heard of and cannot conceive of a 'non-lethal biological weapon'.  These are, by definition, not specifically designed to kill.  One can impact a society a lot more effectively by changing the individuals on a broad scale as opposed to simply killing them outright.  And you can do so over a much longer period of time.

Here is the 'money shot' from the Ford/Zervos study:



The area between the curves represents a VAST amount of money being spent by chronically ill people and their families (not to mention the time and agony they experience).  Much of it is going toward medications which need to be purchased indefinitely in order to deal with their symptoms.

Yes, in a general sense people who are chronically ill will have a shorter life expectancy.  That also has benefits insofar as the social security ponzi will last a bit longer.  The health care system in the U.S. is designed such that the cost of treatments is borne by those who are healthy and there are no caps on what the medical/industrial complex can charge the non-ill for treatment of the ill.

[AmaGold70]

Vaccines are very important for children especially when they are in their infant and toddler age, I have been given a lot of vaccines while growing up as a child and I believe it has been helpful to me fighting off some sickness like measles and yellow fever and even chicken pox. Even as an adult too it is very important to get vaccinated because it help to give you immunity against any future emergencies regarding the health.

[o48o]

For a long time people have been asking for studies that would show if vaccines are good. Such studies haven't been done properly.
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Funny, it's probably most studied field in medical history, and which is continued to being studied, so it could be even more effective.

But wait! Badecker has heard about some far out hippie who has different ideas. Stop the press and throw all the vast body of research away, because it's too boring to read, as it's too complex.

Quoting RFK jr or linking your weird sites doesn't help your credibility.

[passwordnow]

Vaccines for infants are important. They've got weaker immune system and that's why those vaccines that are recommended for them are needed. But parents can opt not to take it but there's a proven study about it. And after that, I think it's all natural growth and stronger immune system through the environment where these kids are growing up. I didn't got a lot of vaccinations as well and I think that it proves what's said about those people that have lesser vaccinations to being unvaccinated. But if it's me, I'd recommend it still for the younger ones for the specific diseases.

Of course vaccines for infants are important. Why? A multitude of reasons. But major among them is that when these kids grow up, they will constantly need to go to some form of medical for some kind of vaccine caused illness or debilitation.

Probably 90% of American jobs have something directly to do with the medical. Think of all the unemployed people in America if these jobs were not needed any longer. So it's the childhood and infant vaccines that are keeping the future of the American economy afloat.

But it's not only vaccines. It's loads of other common medicines, as well.


Because Big Pharma owns our politicians,” RFK Jr. says. “And I’m telling them ...


https://rumble.com/v70bfgw-because-big-pharma-owns-our-politicians-rfk-jr.-says.-and-im-telling-them-..html?e9s=src_v1_upp_v
“Because Big Pharma owns our politicians,” RFK Jr. says. “And I’m telling them to get lost.”
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Pharmaceutical is a huge industry and so as the entire medical industry. Viruses are also mutating and there are still a lot of diseases that don't have any cure. While there are conspiracies that many cancers have already the solution and medicines for it, I'm not going to ignore those people that have been cured with the help of medicine and modern technology. As for the kids, I guess those booster shots that you're saying and I understand that there's always been politics involved with it whether we like it or not and huge mone is in the line so.

[Odusko]

Vaccine here is a my country are taken to schools and all the students are mandated to take the based on their age specifications, any school that don't allow the health staff to vaccinate their students will face government closure of their facilities for none compliance with regulations, so for that reason almost all the vaccines are properly taken, this helps to prevent future diseases that can affect the body at old age.

[tvbcof]

Vaccine here is a my country are taken to schools and all the students are mandated to take the based on their age specifications, any school that don't allow the health staff to vaccinate their students will face government closure of their facilities for none compliance with regulations, so for that reason almost all the vaccines are properly taken, this helps to prevent future diseases that can affect the body at old age.

I suggest to leave before it is too late.  And don't make long-term investments there because there will be fewer fully functional people to support the economy and astronomical sums will be needed to keep the chronically ill going at all.

It's possible that the WHO and other global powers will direct your country (and other ones which are just as stupid and corrupt) to make the chronically ill into sausage and help address world hunger for a period of time.  In that case the trajectory (for those who remain among the living) may look slightly better in some ways.

We as a species are definitely headed toward an 'evolutionary bottleneck', and it will strongly select against people who are prone to follow the directions of 'leaders' without thought or research.  That very well could end up 'improving' the world, but it will take a lot longer than I have left on this earth.

[ImGenius]

I think there is no alternative to vaccination to reduce long-term health complications in children and increase immunity. It is not true that some vaccines are effective. Vaccine producing countries market them in all countries of the world without testing their effectiveness. As a result, vaccines are not working properly in many countries, but rather there is an imbalance in the doses. Vaccines should be marketed after regular effectiveness testing on children because sometimes the RNA of the virus changes.

[BADecker]

All one need do is consider nature when thinking about vaccines. What I mean is, where in nature do we have injections? Poison snake bites, bee stings, all kinds of sea creature stings and bites, Gila monster, mosquito bites (even though their injections of materials are incidental), all kinds of bug bites and injections, fire ants, there are a whole lot more.

So why would anybody think that doctors and researchers have found a way to make vaccine injections safe and non-poisonous? Vaccine poisons might cause the body to fight the problem with every ounce of its strength, but when that strength is gone, illness sets in from the vaccine using up the body's strength to fight the vaccine.

Take your cue from nature. Vaccines aren't good for anybody in the long run.

[o48o]

All one need do is consider nature when thinking about vaccines. What I mean is, where in nature do we have injections? Poison snake bites, bee stings, all kinds of sea creature stings and bites, Gila monster, mosquito bites (even though their injections of materials are incidental), all kinds of bug bites and injections, fire ants, there are a whole lot more.

So why would anybody think that doctors and researchers have found a way to make vaccine injections safe and non-poisonous? Vaccine poisons might cause the body to fight the problem with every ounce of its strength, but when that strength is gone, illness sets in from the vaccine using up the body's strength to fight the vaccine.

Take your cue from nature. Vaccines aren't good for anybody in the long run.

So you went from nonsensical "not enough studied" to "there's no vaccines in nature", which doesn't make any sense either.

You are literally typing that with a device that couldn't been build without science. If you want to give up that because it doesn't exist in elsewhere on nature, then be my guest, but remember to turn of electricity while you are on it.

If you are looking to do what other animals do, maybe most natural forum would be drawing with a stick to wall of a cave. Also, there's no man made religion in nature either.

Doctors and researchers are able to develop vaccines and cures because unlike you, they do their research.