You think holding make you a Bitcoiner?

[VIP police talk]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

[rat03gopoh]

How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin,

That's not the only classification of a Bitcoiner; you know, some people don't want to do it often even though they could. I think the reasons are simple, such as each transaction incurring network fees or legalities that don't allow them to use Bitcoin like fiat currency.
Holding on-chain also requires a practical understanding of wallet security, as we have several methods for that.

In my perspective, as long as you keep your Bitcoin away from any centralized entities, you're a Bitcoiner.

[Z-tight]

Nobody has to prove anything to you or anyone else, that is part of the concept of the network, Freedom. Their keys, their coins. If you want to hold your coins, spend it, create a BTC faucet, day-trade with it, etc, that is up to you, the owner of the keys.

I am sick of people trying to tell others what they should do with their coins to achieve the social status of 'bitcoiner'. Who coined that title? And who determines what you have to do to attain it, you op?

[Dunamisx]

What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Is holding not part of the doings?

Being a bitcoiner shows that you have a level of understanding about some specific areas Bitcoin could be better made applicable, which you either choose to be an investor, someone who holds and later sells as the market improves or you trade, which involves the exchange of bitcoin with other altcoins for the benefit of profit.

While on the last aspect, those that depend on the use of bitcoin for their daily transactions in making payments, we are all bitcoiner, not even the miners alone are called by this term, but everyone who already key into bitcoin adoption for his own purpose is a bitcoiner.

[Cgrexp]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

The main purpose of Bitcoin is to provide freedom from central rules and regulations and financial freedom so that we can achieve complete freedom over our money. If I only hold Bitcoin, in this case we have ownership rights. When we can participate in its use and work, we will be real Bitcoiners. Those who are real Bitcoiners do not just wait for profit, they use Bitcoin according to its real purpose and learn, and become part of this system to create their own financial freedom. So we should not only think about profit but also think about how we can control our own money without being dependent on any government or center.

[Zigabel]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

There is no known agreed or approved definition for a Bitcoiner to the best of my knowledge, and the best i know is that for professionals, you do not have to steadily practice to be called one neither do u have to actively be concern in the running of a business to be called a shareholder or an investor, and so i would love to see same with Bitcoin, i don't think you have to consistently be on trades, trading Bitcoin to be called a Bitcoiner except you want to tell me you are undermining big Holders to not been eligible enough because they are not actively always moving Bitcoin on the chain meanwhile we know how expensive that can be and on bad days the effect of that on your portfolio is not a thing i think you will want to discuss.

May be if you will wan to separate them into been seen as Bitcoin investors and maybe classify the active ones by your description as the Bitcoin savvy, i will consider that fair enough and mind you, we also have the miners who are actively into Bitcoin daily, what name then will you give to them to distinguish them from the ones actively trading and moving the coin from one wallet to another?, they are all under the umbrella of Bitcoiner from my perspective just like everyone who buys stocks are referred to as investors in stocks.

[kotajikikox]

So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

I think you are policing others too much. If he is holding bitcoin then he clearly understands the value of bitcoin and its potential so I believe that makes someone a bitcoiner already. What about those who can't afford bitcoin, they have none but they understand bitcoin and follows the recent movements of the market. They also understand concepts of bitcoin. They might not be considered bitcoiner anymore?

I believe it is not about how much they have or own or how they use it. Besides holding bitcoin means they already have made one transaction which is to buy the bitcoin in the first place.

[hd49728]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners.

Why not?

Seriously, if they did enough research, had good knowledge about Bitcoin and strong belief in its future, then actually bought bitcoin, and hold it, why are they not deserved to be called as Bitcoiners?

Ask me, why please?

The challenge is only how long they are able to hold their bitcoins and you only can make a sensible argument about a minimum holding time to be called as Bitcoiners. If your opinion is like this, I would happlily agree with you because holding bitcoin for one month, three months or six months are easier than holding it for many years. It relates to market volatility, market phase like bullish or bearish and a lot of effects from negative and positive news.

[aylabadia05]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

There's nothing wrong with using it as an investment asset, because Bitcoin doesn't force its owners to use it as they wish.
If you own Bitcoin, you can be considered a Bitcoiner, even if you don't use it for transactions but as an investment asset, and you haven't done anything wrong.
Anyone who owns Bitcoin doesn't have to publicly declare their ownership. So, what must be proven to be considered a Bitcoiner in the way you're referring to?

[batang_bitcoin]

There is no rule that obliges any bitcoin holder to be part of any movement. This is a free market and anyone who owns and holds it is entitle for what they want to do with it or what they want to do after they have owned it. Bitcoin is widely used now and accepted as an investment, an asset, as a store of value and that's hard to remove from the most of us and there is nothing wrong if we treat it as is because we all do.

[Satofan44]

A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)

That is your opinion and has nothing to do with reality. If we were to try to rank Bitcoiners then it would be based on belief and knowledge. Who has the strongest belief? Those people who are diamond holders and have held it through a thousand or even ten thousand fold increase in price. Creating artificial transaction activity just to call yourself a Bitcoiner is useless. Most people have lost coins in one way or another with this. Whether to unnecessary spending or through investing in scam shitcoins, it is all the same.

That's not the only classification of a Bitcoiner; you know, some people don't want to do it often even though they could. I think the reasons are simple, such as each transaction incurring network fees or legalities that don't allow them to use Bitcoin like fiat currency.

Every digital fiat transaction has a fee. Just because you don't see the fee written somewhere explicitly that does not mean that you are not paying it in some way.

In my perspective, as long as you keep your Bitcoin away from any centralized entities, you're a Bitcoiner.

Not your keys, not your Bitcoin. Whoever does not follow this rule is most definitely not a Bitcoiner.

Why not?

Seriously, if they did enough research, had good knowledge about Bitcoin and strong belief in its future, then actually bought bitcoin, and hold it, why are they not deserved to be called as Bitcoiners?

Ask me, why please?

My guess it is just a bad attempt at getting some merit so he wrote something stupid that he thought was going to sound smart.

[Pauldesaints]

If someone who is holding a Bitcoin is not a bitcoiner.what will you call some beginners who are yet to purchase a single coins.The way anyone want to make use of his Bitcoin I think shouldn't be our concern because definitely one day he will sell it or buy more of it.
I don't see anything wrong with someone accumulating alot of Bitcoins.

[rat03gopoh]

Every digital fiat transaction has a fee. Just because you don't see the fee written somewhere explicitly that does not mean that you are not paying it in some way.

Yeah, I know that. But in this context, I'm talking about transactions whose fees can't be determined unilaterally. Recording every single utxo that moves on the blockchain requires significant power, and it stands to reason that fees can't be avoided by any means.
Digital fiat could even be costless, given how easy it is to write those digits on their own servers. Just like transferring any crypto between the same CEXes.

[JoyMarsha]

How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin,

If we all go by transacting our Bitcoin every time, not hodling it, how do we achieve the financial freedom Bitcoin gives? Is being financially free not part of the purpose of Bitcoin's creation?

I think we are free to choose whatever we want from Bitcoin. If it is merely for profits, so be it. It's our choice since we didn't get Bitcoin for free. We invested our money not borrowed money. We have every right to think of making profits out of it 

[Hewlet]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit.

if you are not one that is a bitcoinner, you will not buy and hold bitcoin in the first place. it takes someone that knows about bitcoin and also believes in it to buy and hold bitcoin. of cause, you can decide to spend your coin if that is what you want but that does not make you any better than those that have decided not to sell their bitcoin at the moment. the selling point of every investor is different and depend entirely on what accumulation goal the person in question is working with.

The bitcoin ecosystem comprises of investors, traders, enthusiast that are constantly stating how bullish they are about bitcoin and newbies that are just coming into the system. each and everyone one of us falls under this category and that determines how we threat our asset but with those type of segmentation, we are all bitcoin investors at the same time.

[Renampun]

Let's see what the true definition of bitcoiners is. According to Google, a bitcoiners is someone who is actively involved in Bitcoin-related activities, and according to ChatGPT, a bitcoiners is a term for someone who strongly supports and believes in Bitcoin. so, from these two explanations, we can conclude that bitcoiners are people who believe in Bitcoin, whether they hold it or those who actively participate in its ecosystem, such as mining, transacting, and engaging in discussions and education about Bitcoin, those are bitcoiners.

[beveryu778]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Those who hold Bitcoin are Bitcoin holders, those who mine are miners, and those who trade are traders. I don't know who is actually called a Bitcoiner. Bitcoin is an investment currency. Those who can invest for a long time can do a lot of good things here, but those who cannot hold for a long time are very afraid of Bitcoin's volatility and lose a lot. But I am not aware of what the main job of Bitcoiners is. I have never heard anything about who is called this. Today I first encountered such a question that who can claim to be a Bitcoiner.

[osasshem]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

What can really make you say a person is a Bitcoiner?
The perspective of the system is do what you want with what you have under your control, if holding is what makes you feel good with the process, then hold. When it comes to finance or investment, it is mostly all about how much profit you can make at the end of the day.
At the part you say doing, what really is the doing? Cause not all countries are accepting the day to day utilization of Bitcoin yet, while there are some county(ies), not everyone within uses it.

Taking a look at the Whales in the system, who just have their Bitcoins stored on cold wallets for years, and having not moved/touched it, what would they be called? Freedom in the crypto community is for everyone.

[cr1776]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Yeah, sure.  Bitcoin is freedom to do with as you wish.  Someone just shows up here and decides to define it?  Bitcoin is meant to be used however each individual person wants to use it.  Nothing more, nothing less.

[EluguHcman]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)

I think you have not gained much experience about Bitcoin yet. You are also contradicting. And believing you are still a beginner in the forum where Bitcoin ideals are discussed and also perceive to educative ness, I will advice you focus on learning more in the space before you can teach or counter others because overconfidence fails out of overrate self ability.

In a simple term, Bitcoineers can be described as ones that uses or associated with Bitcoin. It does not matter how they spends it or uses it.
It is also beyond only when you have Bitcoin but also enthusiasts who fancy Bitcoin even without having a portfolio on it. Also as supporting it technical developments and growths or otherwise that has impact on Bitcoin are Bitcoineers.