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I hate when people call bitcoiners "lucky". You weren't "lucky". You weren't "early". You felt that something's wrong with the world, and saw the glitch. You didn't have a "good timing" in bitcoin. You were watching Saifedean Ammous explain money, while the others were talking about the ball game last night. While they were asleep at 3 AM, you were casually reading Austrian economics before finally getting some shut-eye. When others were scrolling for 4 hours on TikTok, you were sending sats at the speed of light through someone's basement node via lightning. They told you bitcoin was a scam while you quietly watched them go to the bank to ask permission to move "their" "money". They told you bitcoin is a ponzi scheme, while their retirement plan is based on promises of people who will be dead long before the bill comes due. Fiat people will blame everything for every evil we're living apart from fiat. Sometimes the blame goes to the "greedy corporations". Other times, it's the politicians. Some other times, it's the "energy cartels". But never the reality that a handful of unelected lizard people decide how much to rob you from your savings. You live amidst this debt-fueled chaotic simulation, and then you find bitcoin: - 21 million, fixed. No "transitory inflation". No "oops, we printed another $2 trillion for this war". No "21 million unless x". Just 21 million.
- Self-custody. No "yours unless bankruptcy". No "Hey, I'd like to know why I couldn't move my money this morning".
- Globally accessible. No sanctions. No "we've detected a suspicious activity to your account". Settlement in minutes. Not days.
You don't hold bitcoin. Bitcoin holds you.
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October 16, 2025, 11:21:47 AM |
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Holding Bitcoin isn't any luck, especially for early adopters because they went through several emotional pressures to sell off and take profits but they held back believing in a greater reward ahead. They understood properly that Bitcoin is a revolution unfolding, even during several price crashes, they held still not paying attention to the media nonsensical attacks on Bitcoin, yes for every reward they get for their resilience, they worked for it, they deserved it and they're not just lucky, they made a decision to keep holding and that single decision has rewarded them holders massively.
Bitcoin remains the only true asset with a fixed supply, which makes it scarce and it would always be more in demand while supply remains very limited and in turn the value keys appreciating. Those who appreciate this principle and hold on to their Bitcoin for longer stand a chance at a bigger reward. Its not luck but foresight, commitment and resilience
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October 16, 2025, 12:02:45 PM |
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Would love to think I am genius but am too old to fool myself much.
Bitcoin was a literal way out for me. From the undesirable part of the planet trying to earn money freelancing. PayPal didn't like me. Transfer wise, Revolutionary, all those people supposedly helping the unbanked, squeezing me out, freezing me out. Banks making it increasingly hard and expensive to accept payments.
Tried Bitcoin. Yes was curious but .ore importantly, it worked.
Then I got lucky more and more people were willing to pay with it. Lucky that I started in 2016 rather than 2020 or 2025. Luckier anyway.
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I agree , I dont think that getting early as we did in bitcoin is about being smart. But we were looking for opportunities. We just had our eyes open. Like we say in Portuguese "we were phising when there was a fish to catch". most people weren't looking for fishes. We hit bitcoin, but it wasn't the only opportunity around in our time. There were also amazing opportunities like Nvidia apple Microsoft tesla etc... most people here missed all of them, but we got into bitcoin (which is amazing and one of the best assets there is)
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October 16, 2025, 12:25:46 PM |
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You don't hold bitcoin. Bitcoin holds you.
How deep, yet very true. Though I still wonder why many people struggle to break free from this simulation despite realizing that it is a repeated cycle. Nothing seems to make sense, but at the same time, people are scared of moving on. Claiming that Bitcoin was scam was their own justification for not trying out something new. People keep trusting that the government or banks will take responsibility when things eventually snap, but we fail to realize that the system has been broken long before now. Bitcoiners were never lucky... They saw the glitch in the system and had to move on to something better. Fighting the system was a war no common man could ever win. Quietly searching for an alternative was rather the best decision.
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October 16, 2025, 12:41:34 PM |
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There's nothing lucky about watching a single documentary/video or read a single article about the world's finance system and instantly getting redpilled. Millions of people have been exposed to Bitcoin and this topic many many times and they still don't get it at all. We hit bitcoin, but it wasn't the only opportunity around in our time. There were also amazing opportunities like Nvidia apple Microsoft tesla etc... most people here missed all of them, but we got into bitcoin (which is amazing and one of the best assets there is)
There were many opportunities in the stock market indeed, completely different to what Bitcoin offers but nevertheless they were there. Though I still wonder why many people struggle to break free from this simulation despite realizing that it is a repeated cycle. Nothing seems to make sense, but at the same time, people are scared of moving on. Claiming that Bitcoin was scam was their own justification for not trying out something new.
Read 1984, Animal Farm and Brave New World. We are living in a world that combines different aspects of each book in different magnitudes. Most people have near zero or zero free will. They are as plugged in into the matrix as they could be without actually being in a hardware hibernation capsule. It is a sad state of affairs but it is better to be aware and accepting of reality than to live in some delusion.
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October 16, 2025, 12:54:14 PM |
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You read that bitcoin maximum supply is 21 million BTC. If you buy now, the price will increase because it will be scarce. If people buy it, you will be lucky and you bought it. I will say that is not luck.
But how about those that go for altcoins that are similar to bitcoin but their money fall more because the coins are falling. In life there is luck but some people will not have luck if they do not have knowledge and understanding about something.
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October 16, 2025, 01:07:09 PM |
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Smart men create their own luck by preparing the environment accordingly and when somebody starts doing it, it cannot even be called luck anymore. It is a business by design.
Early bitcoiners are indeed rich but they hedl their coins while the others were selling. That cannot happen by dumb luck. That kind of dedication requires strong dedication and knowledge. It is like seeing the future. Only a few can wield that kind of power and that’s why there are not many early adopters around.
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I've been on this internet since the beginning to know that I don't feel like I belong, everything was like a weapon fashioned against me, until I found Bitcoin or maybe bitcoin found me, I started feeling like I am home, the exact way that I dreamt my life to be, a warm place where freedom speaks louder for itself, a place where no one will kick you around or force you to lick their asses.
Bitcoin felt more like a home and I saw how messed up this world is, I am not lucky, I seek for answers and never gave up on it and then I got blessed, who says prayers aren't answered ? There are many humans like me in the world today and I am sure that bitcoin made them feel like home.
I can move my money around when I want, I am free from control over my own money from banks and the government, I also feel like my future is secured when it comes to investment wise, there is nothing like it.
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Tried Bitcoin. Yes was curious but .ore importantly, it worked.
Then I got lucky more and more people were willing to pay with it. Lucky that I started in 2016 rather than 2020 or 2025. Luckier anyway.
Hahaha luck is always a factor but you have to position yourself to a strategic point for the luck to hit you  They say luck is when preparation meets opportunity. And like Martin Luther King, Jr said "If you can't fly, run. If you can't run, walk. If you can't walk, crawl, but by all means, keep moving," So if a hodler started on 9th October 2025 and all of a sudden he went short on bitcoin from the top of $122k to $104k making a difference of $18,000 in profit within few hours of the day, is he still lucky? I think knowledge is key to bitcoin investment.
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Bitcoin is ontological repair
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October 16, 2025, 01:40:05 PM |
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Tried Bitcoin. Yes was curious but .ore importantly, it worked. Same experience. Paypal had warned me that they'd be shutting down my account if I don't connect with a bank account, at a time when it was impossible to do for me. Then, I discovered bitcoin. Once I read the whitepaper, I knew that this is something entirely different. Then I bought $300 worth of bitcoin. Easiest purchase ever. I'll never feel that much liberated by emptying a Paypal account. Sending and receiving money never felt so liberating, as with bitcoin. Every transaction you send is more than a payment; it is a declaration. A middle-finger statement to all the faceless entities that control the banking system. Every transaction broadcasted is one satoshi closer to the end of the empire that is backed by complete inertia and NPC faith.
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October 16, 2025, 01:41:42 PM |
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I hate when people call bitcoiners "lucky".
You weren't "lucky". You weren't "early". You felt that something's wrong with the world, and saw the glitch.
You didn't have a "good timing" in bitcoin. You were watching Saifedean Ammous explain money, while the others were talking about the ball game last night. While they were asleep at 3 AM, you were casually reading Austrian economics before finally getting some shut-eye.
We create our own destiny, as cringe as it sounds, is true. Nothing will happen if we don’t take action. Money doesn’t just come knocking on our doors. It doesn’t just fall from the tree. We have done something in order to reach the kind of life we are living now. Though sometimes luck really do play a part. But it doesn’t do everything. People who are just waiting on luck will never progress in life.
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I hate when people call bitcoiners "lucky".
You weren't "lucky". You weren't "early". You felt that something's wrong with the world, and saw the glitch.
Lucky is also partially as people could luckily know about Bitcoin many years ago but what they did after knowing that is not luck-based at all. They must find information about Bitcoin, make their decision, buying it, investing money in it and holding it or not. It's decision making and it's not luck-based. So lucky or not, it is only one part of many steps that lead to Bitcoiners and success by holding bitcoins a long time like many years. Generally, I don't consider any Bitcoiners from the past are lucky people and who got rich with Bitcoin are lucky. They really deserved with their success by their determinantly investment decision on Bitcoin and confidently hold their bitcoins for years.
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October 16, 2025, 01:56:18 PM |
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In life there is luck but some people will not have luck if they do not have knowledge and understanding about something.
Those that are lucky are those that had tried multiple times and found the right track how to proceed exceedingly. No Bitcoiner started the journey without loosing some part of their fund, without paying some certain price, without sacrificing time and energy on study. These people arent actually been lucky but maintaining the luck till eternity. Those that get lucky at their first trial do not stand in the test of time, sooner or later they fade away because the root of knowledge is not strong.
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October 16, 2025, 02:03:26 PM |
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A fellow countryman of yours could learn from that, since registering on the forum in 2013 didn't seem to do him much good. Instead of focusing on accumulating bitcoin, he spends all his time expressing his anger towards the wealthy. It's no surprise he hasn't become wealthy; he despises them. Sometimes the blame goes to the "greedy corporations". Other times, it's the politicians. Some other times, it's the "energy cartels". But never the reality that a handful of unelected lizard people decide how much to rob you from your savings.
A perfect example of what I'm talking about. You don't hold bitcoin. Bitcoin holds you.
As long as you understand how the financial system works and what Bitcoin is all about.
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October 16, 2025, 02:28:46 PM |
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Some acquaintances/friends used to call me crazy because I was throwing money away by investing in something that would fail in a year or two, then they envied me because I was lucky enough to recognize what they call "the right opportunity", and today they say it was a genius move.
However, for me it was never all about profit, because most of the coins I acquired in one way or another are still safe and only a small part is sold if the situation requires it. Best of all, I'm aware that I understood what Bitcoin is long before all these so-called geniuses who are buying thousands of BTC for $100k+ per coin today, and when it was only worth a few hundred dollars, they said it would fail or that only criminals would use it.
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October 16, 2025, 02:37:25 PM |
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Some acquaintances/friends used to call me crazy because I was throwing money away by investing in something that would fail in a year or two, then they envied me because I was lucky enough to recognize what they call "the right opportunity", and today they say it was a genius move.
If they knew you did your investment, they had great opportunity to follow you but by critizing against your decision, they wasted good opportunity to find luckiness by themselves. Chance came but they ignored it so they deserved with missing opportunity of investment in Bitcoin and getting richer with Bitcoin like you actually did and got good profit with your Bitcoin investment. Years later, they felt regret and called you and your successful investment as lucky, it's not right and not fair too. It is more sensible if you knew about Bitcoin years ago while they did not, but it's not what happened in your story with your friends.
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Ahli38
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October 16, 2025, 03:08:53 PM |
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I hate when people call bitcoiners "lucky".
I also hate it when people call bitcoiners lucky. They don't know what they're talking about. And most of them have heard of Bitcoin for a long time but don't want to find out more about what it is. If they knew the value that Bitcoin provides they would be speechless. Moreover if they tried to compare Bitcoin to fiat currency. They would see Bitcoin as a currency that is far more valuable or even more useful than fiat currency. It's only a matter of time before they truly realize this and even change their negative perceptions of Bitcoin. In the end they will regret it. Furthermore Bitcoiners cannot be considered as lucky. They don't know what Bitcoiners have been doing all this time. Even if they realize the concept of luck they should know that luck cannot be achieved without effort. What I mean is that no one who does nothing can get lucky let alone extraordinary luck.
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October 16, 2025, 04:13:03 PM |
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Same experience. Paypal had warned me that they'd be shutting down my account if I don't connect with a bank account, at a time when it was impossible to do for me. Then, I discovered bitcoin. Once I read the whitepaper, I knew that this is something entirely different. Then I bought $300 worth of bitcoin. Easiest purchase ever. I'll never feel that much liberated by emptying a Paypal account.
I think majority of people that found bitcoin actually found it after undergoing same payment stress like both of you, I was a victim most precisely, easiest way was PayPal then they ended supported for my country created multiple account and had may funds stuck in them then was introduced to bitcoin, it was one of the smoothest form of transactions in fact was the only way i actually used bitcoin then. No third party just use my high priority fee and get confirmed in the next block, this is one of the reason why I still don’t accept slender of bitcoin transaction fee because I know the hassle of the doing cross boarder transactions. Then using bitcoin as a form of investment was what I found because of my country’s devaluing currency, buying other precious metals as assets were also an hassle not to talk of where to keep them but bitcoin actually solved that issue easily
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October 16, 2025, 04:24:00 PM |
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As if this is not enough for them to say, you will also discover the worst being that each time the market falls, then they go ahead flooding the Internet with all manners of talks that does not conforms the ethics of Bitcoin in cryptocurrency, I don't know why people are doing this and what they stand to gain from discouraging others from adoption, bitcoin has been the reason why some of us today could boldly hold onto financial freedom amidst all odds.
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