Member card in physical casinos, better or worse?

[Patikno]

Depends on how that card is being used, but even if they track your activity I don’t think it’s a big deal. You’re still playing under their system anyway they already know who’s winning and who’s losing.

The main purpose of those casino cards is really just to make things more convenient for players, which in turn makes you gamble more. Nothing deeper than that, I guess. Whether it turns out good or bad really depends on how we handle it.

I think so too. Both physical and online casinos have data on their players wins, and losses. That is why casinos have statistics data, or leaderboards. Personally, I don't think it is a biggie at all, as long as the casino offers a fair system in each of their games. By the way, I also believe any casino wants to keep its players enjoy, so I don't think activity tracking is intended for any unfair purposes. It would be different if a casino did not have a good reputation, or did not offer a fair system in their games, where they had indications of possible cheating.

[Fredomago]

Depends on how that card is being used, but even if they track your activity I don’t think it’s a big deal. You’re still playing under their system anyway they already know who’s winning and who’s losing.

The main purpose of those casino cards is really just to make things more convenient for players, which in turn makes you gamble more. Nothing deeper than that, I guess. Whether it turns out good or bad really depends on how we handle it.

I think so too. Both physical and online casinos have data on their players wins, and losses. That is why casinos have statistics data, or leaderboards. Personally, I don't think it is a biggie at all, as long as the casino offers a fair system in each of their games. By the way, I also believe any casino wants to keep its players enjoy, so I don't think activity tracking is intended for any unfair purposes. It would be different if a casino did not have a good reputation, or did not offer a fair system in their games, where they had indications of possible cheating.

There's value on it, unless the casino is not trustable then there's a possibility that they might be using those details agains the end users, but if the casino already have good reputation they value their customers and they wanted to have them keep going back, there's no use of doing any possibility of doiing something fishy but instead give them that space and enjoyment to have them bring more deposit to the business.

[Findingnemo]

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There's value on it, unless the casino is not trustable then there's a possibility that they might be using those details agains the end users, but if the casino already have good reputation they value their customers and they wanted to have them keep going back, there's no use of doing any possibility of doiing something fishy but instead give them that space and enjoyment to have them bring more deposit to the business.

Data is the new gold, they can use it however they want and I am pretty sure they will share with an analytics company to identify their high-value customers and offer them extra perks to retain their engagement. Once something goes on recods there can be no assurance that it is not used in the way we don't like it.

It is one of the reason why crypto casinos became popular a decade ago, it was completely anonymous and users can just deposit and withdraw there will be no records but those days are long gone now.

[rodskee]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

i do believe this is made for convenience and a little bit of marketing strategy involved as well as i am guessing there will be points that are collected in the cards so it looks like that they have integrated online gambling with physical gambling this kind of system is not that new to me though because in arcades there are cards we have to buy and load in which we will use to play around

[BitMaxz]

Well, it's better for the casino to have a card so they can easily track their players. I'm not sure if casinos take more than that, but I think it's more convenient for the players because they don't have to verify KYC or anything else that could prevent them from entering a casino. Since we all know how strict casino regulations are, having a card makes it easier to access the casino. The good news is that most casinos have loyalty programs, so by using the card, you'll earn something like a bonus or points that you can redeem, which is part of marketing strategy.

It might only be worse if you fall into addiction; it is not because of the card but because of yourself.

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Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

We have to remember that data is the most valuable thing in the world today and this is the case in all fields. In this regard, whether it is a physical casino or an online casino, all casinos try to track the data of the users by creating a member ID or account through which they present the casino services to those players according to their activity with various promotional messages.
In this regard, of course, there is a marketing strategy behind implementing this card system in physical casinos today, where they can retain players for more spending by getting to know them.

[Alphakilo]

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There's value on it, unless the casino is not trustable then there's a possibility that they might be using those details agains the end users, but if the casino already have good reputation they value their customers and they wanted to have them keep going back, there's no use of doing any possibility of doiing something fishy but instead give them that space and enjoyment to have them bring more deposit to the business.

Data is the new gold, they can use it however they want and I am pretty sure they will share with an analytics company to identify their high-value customers and offer them extra perks to retain their engagement. Once something goes on recods there can be no assurance that it is not used in the way we don't like it.

It is one of the reason why crypto casinos became popular a decade ago, it was completely anonymous and users can just deposit and withdraw there will be no records but those days are long gone now.

The house edge is not just restricted to odds in favor of the house. Other ways these casinos can use to lure in customers and especially those with big pockets, is to make them stay by making them feel lucky at their first few tries with reward bonuses and multipliers to their accounts.

It's a good strategy really by these casinos, because for me, I wouldn't even dare say I feel lucky at a new casino I just discovered, but am sure with great rewards and mouth watering bonuses, I might just become the most popular casino goers or most notable player for a long time yet.

[o48o]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

I am not sure where you play, but in where i live that's happening because of casinos are following the law, and kyc is mandatory, even for physical slot machines. Or they could be preparing for it, and logical first step is to build the system ready for it.

Other then that, it's a matter of opinion i guess. Cash anonymity had it perks, especially if you prefer physical cash in everyday life. I don't hold it too much ever on me anymore, after i got robbed. These days i don't think even robbers think you have cash on you.

But lack of possibility to use slot machines is least of the problems when it comes to not being able to use cash.

[coolcoinz]

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There's value on it, unless the casino is not trustable then there's a possibility that they might be using those details agains the end users, but if the casino already have good reputation they value their customers and they wanted to have them keep going back, there's no use of doing any possibility of doiing something fishy but instead give them that space and enjoyment to have them bring more deposit to the business.

Data is the new gold, they can use it however they want and I am pretty sure they will share with an analytics company to identify their high-value customers and offer them extra perks to retain their engagement. Once something goes on recods there can be no assurance that it is not used in the way we don't like it.

It is one of the reason why crypto casinos became popular a decade ago, it was completely anonymous and users can just deposit and withdraw there will be no records but those days are long gone now.

Exactly. Cards offer all the advantage to the casino and none to you.

For instance, let's say you had cash in your wallet and wanted to play. There's a limit of how much you'd have with you. Either it would be due to your wallet size, or the amount of cash you feel safe carrying, or just the limit that you've decided to impose on yourself when you left home. If your member card has a credit card assigned to it, the only limit is on the card and that's usually going to be higher than the cash you carry.
You feel it when you put cash into a machine and it doesn't come back, but you don't feel balance being subtracted from a card.

Then there's data, KYC and all that...

[Cantsay]

Like you said, the casinos are just trying to make sure that they keep statistics of their customers physical customers, same way they have records of their online customers. It's just about gathering database. I don't believe that the casino intention of doing this is to lure new players by giving them big wins, or are you trying to say that it is the casinos that decide if gamblers should win bets or not?

This is the most plausible answer I have read thus far. Casinos don’t even know who’s going to win and who’s going to lose, they don’t control the outcome of each accounts if they do then they’ll be able to control the win and loses of those who usually wager huge amounts on a single bet. The system was built in a way that the casino would have the advantage at the long run, it wasn’t built for them to control and then start giving newbies more advantages than old timers.

Even some new account lose their money on their first few tries, if the speculation of the Op was correct then you won’t see any newbie lose their money when they’re just starting the platform.

[Mindyspace]

I've never played, but I find it quite curious. It makes sense that casinos want to control everything, especially with so much technology these days. And this idea of giving players more luck at the beginning to get them excited seems very real. In the end, it seems like the game ends up being more about their strategy than pure luck, right?

[Stepstowealth]

I've never played, but I find it quite curious. It makes sense that casinos want to control everything, especially with so much technology these days. And this idea of giving players more luck at the beginning to get them excited seems very real.

If there is enough proof to support this and a gambler notices that physical casinos have this practice, they can use it to their advantage and to the disadvantage of physical casinos. how? they may decide to play in this casino and after they have enjoyed winning because the casino wants to lure them to remain, they do not remain but move to another casino and enjoy another good winning. They can maybe keep this practice and stay in profit.

[boyptc]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

I guess that it's all about tracking the habits and that luring of making them win at first and then changing the algorithm in making them lose to gamble more is normal in a casino setup.

I think that it's also about monitoring all of their players for some anti-money laundering things from the government.

We all know that the casinos are the places where the money launderers go and try to wash their money. They're like the mixers in our era but just a traditional one.

I still prefer the online casinos though it's a different feeling when we're inside the physical casino.

[Findingnemo]

You feel it when you put cash into a machine and it doesn't come back, but you don't feel balance being subtracted from a card.

Then there's data, KYC and all that...

It is the con of going cashless, we increase the convenience but it also increase the spending habit on average level because there is only so much people are very cautious with all their spending even if it goes from their credit card and some just chose to ingore and carry forward the loan just because they can.

[Hispo]

... What do you think?

There is definitely data gathering going on behind the scenes, that is the only justification for casinos to implement and invest in such technology, so they can make use of that information about their gamblers to enhance profitability in the mid and long term.
They could either sell that information to advertisers or also use the information on how many gamblers have won money from the casino, so the casino itself can offer them bonuses and tempt them to continue to play more on slots, allowing the house edge to recover part of that money back for the casino, reducing potential losses.

If it was in my power, I would allow people to continue to gamble with cash and offer those cards to gamblers who actually show interest on having them, so they would not need to carry much cash around all the time. That is probably the only advantage I can take from all this for gamblers: not having to carry their cash in order to gamble, just swipe a card and they are ready to go.

[JunaidAzizi]

Making cards mandatory brings another shift in the gambling world, making it easier and more digitalized for the users. It has pros and cons, but the thing you mentioned was a fact, that the card is a kind of gold mine for the casino. They now know when you enter and leave, how much you win and lose, which one is your favorite game, and your bets. But somehow, the card is now easy to carry, and you don't have to hold cash at casinos while moving from one machine to another.

[Raflesia]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

I don't really know because for now in my country physical casinos will obviously never exist considering gambling is still quite illegal but if you look at the current conditions such things could be a possibility when physical casinos start developing the facilities they have.

It may indeed be used as tracking but more than that I think it can also make it easier because of course when we want to gamble with a large nominal we certainly don't need to carry money or Chips in large quantities but on the one hand this can also be a marketing for them so that gamblers don't care too much about the nominal they have spent because indeed the use of cards can be an easier step for us to spend money again and again.

[Orpichukwu]

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

If that's possible, it will only mean that the slot machine owner or the casino itself is not fair. If they could easily make someone win because of promotional reasons, then they can also tamper with the system to limit and choose who can win and who cannot, which it's not supposed to be, so the system should be allowed to do its job and part and let every other thing be on luck.

[blockman]

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

This has nothing to do with member cards because this also happens in regular online crypto casinos. That's their way of getting more users and trying to allow them to win and have some beginners luck but later on it will change. I guess that everyone have been through with that and it's only a matter of time until these gamblers will realize that it's no longer in favor of them and that's why they're going crazy thinking why at the beginning they're winners and it didn't them a while until the results have been in despair and losing streak.

[GeorgeJohn]

People will not like to play in physical casino because they don't want to be expose to were many people will see and notice that they are into gambling, so that is why most people preferred online gambling casino

People who will prefer using a physical kind of gambling card on casino is people who is not hiding anything about gambling and they are also people who love a gambling so for me I will prefer online gambling casino where everything will be in secret and the nobody will know my way about in gambling and if I lose I know that I lose without the awareness of anyone but the way I'm seeing this physical kind of gambling casino that are requires membership card or member card I think they will physical record for the machine that accepts the card.