Member card in physical casinos, better or worse?

[Reatim]

If they ask for getting a physical card to play, its similar to creating an account on an online casino. They will individually track a players wins losses and their time spent among other things.

Of course this data can be used to get the idea of what promotion they can push towards that user.

I have little idea about this because physical casinos almost dont exist from which I live but this seems like how it should run.

it can be helpful for the gamblers also because they can track how much time and money they spend on the casino and it keeps them in check compared to if they were just playing with cash

[TopT3ns]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

Actually I don't view it as a means to track players habits and how they gamble and with what games in particular, maybe you could be right from your angle. But what if we can see it as a means that even promotes players security as they do not have to be carrying physical cash with them in large sum which could attract attackers when they perceive what the player is in possession of. I think it's just an innovative thought from the physical casino which they would have evaluated the advantages for them and the players before swinging into adopting it over cash.

The concept of casinos ceasing to use cash and adopting a digital application will provide greater personal protection of players. Having to carry high amounts of cash is minimised, thus making it impossible to be the victim of a crime. The transformation also makes operations of the gambling houses easier.

Implementing a cashless system should be done with great caution in terms of the impacts such a system might have on the interested parties in terms of advantages as well as disadvantages. This is a step that should be given a proper assessment before it is massively used.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

For me, I literally think this is a strategy to know the individual data information about each gamblers, to know those gamblers who spend huge sum of money gambling, and those gamblers who doesn't gamble huge sum of money. And I think with which data, the casino will be able to know those who are likely to be addicted or control addiction of each gambler, in other to offer either a restriction or permanent ban. While secondly, just as every other industry have evolved and developed over the years, you don't expect the gambling industry to remain static without improving in it's gambling process and activities. Hence, I will solidly say the new introduction of member card is a nice innovation.

[Fredomago]

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account.

That's the purpose why cards are made. It's true that they have to know and track what's happening to their customers. And if some problem occurs, all they have to do is to look at their records to figure out easily if something is wrong with their system and why there's all of a sudden changes and big wins that has happen. But if proven all of those things are to be legitimate, they'd surely spare them and will allow to withdraw the winnings that they deserve.

Casino withdrawal decline is very rare to happened especially on reputable physical casino because they have a license and regulated strictly compared to online casino with Curacao license.

This member card sure works to track players for bonuses and recordings required by the law.

But they can’t use it to freeze user withdrawals just because a player winning big.

It will affect their business if they will not let the withdrawal as they are liable with their customer and similar to what you said, those physical casino needs business permits and if they messed with their customers and recieved complains it will risk their entire business, for sure they are more valuing their reputation compared to those amount that they can freeze from whatever suspicious activities that they may see from their clients, this membsership card might be use to know their client more and the activities if they need to add some freebies or bonuses especially if the person is their VIP client.

[letteredhub]

Actually I don't view it as a means to track players habits and how they gamble and with what games in particular, maybe you could be right from your angle. But what if we can see it as a means that even promotes players security as they do not have to be carrying physical cash with them in large sum which could attract attackers when they perceive what the player is in possession of. I think it's just an innovative thought from the physical casino which they would have evaluated the advantages for them and the players before swinging into adopting it over cash.

The concept of casinos ceasing to use cash and adopting a digital application will provide greater personal protection of players. Having to carry high amounts of cash is minimised, thus making it impossible to be the victim of a crime. The transformation also makes operations of the gambling houses easier.

Implementing a cashless system should be done with great caution in terms of the impacts such a system might have on the interested parties in terms of advantages as well as disadvantages. This is a step that should be given a proper assessment before it is massively used.

Innovarions doesn't come with some disadvantages in the print but in any case on this aspect of the use of card the advantages definitely outweighs all that could be said to be considered. Whatever assessment that could be made shouybe drawn from the cashless financial system how seamless and stress-free it's being compared to walking about with cash all of the time.

I think this innovation puts more responsibility on the gambler on how he chooses to gamble, if he's that gamblers that can't control what he's to spend when playing then he might just rather find this as an easy means to gamble irresponsibly with each swipe.

[batang_bitcoin]

It will affect their business if they will not let the withdrawal as they are liable with their customer and similar to what you said, those physical casino needs business permits and if they messed with their customers and recieved complains it will risk their entire business, for sure they are more valuing their reputation compared to those amount that they can freeze from whatever suspicious activities that they may see from their clients, this membsership card might be use to know their client more and the activities if they need to add some freebies or bonuses especially if the person is their VIP client.

Yeah, that's likely going to affect them if they will continue to do these things against their customers. And that's why they should offer the best thing for their customers and that's why if they don't like to face any trouble then they have to make sure that no customer complains and they have to serve everyone with the best that they can, from withdrawals/deposits and then the games that they offer. So, anything that's in the advantage of the customers, they'd do it but of course they're still a business after all.

[danadc]

I have not seen that option in the physical casinos that I frequent. What you do is buy chips and play with them. I have not seen them having cards. I go periodically because I like to spend a pleasant time there and it is that way. Maybe some casinos apply the one-card thing, but it is a matter of taste and rules about how the casino handles things that way I don't see it as bad, but I see it as a bit Complicated.

[Oluwa-btc]

Depends on how that card is being used, but even if they track your activity I don’t think it’s a big deal. You’re still playing under their system anyway they already know who’s winning and who’s losing.

The main purpose of those casino cards is really just to make things more convenient for players, which in turn makes you gamble more. Nothing deeper than that, I guess. Whether it turns out good or bad really depends on how we handle it.

I somewhat likes the tracking feature of this member card because you can use the records to see how much you’re actually spending, which helps with budgeting especially if you’re honest with yourself.Its better if you’re disciplined,you could track your plays smartly.Its becomes worse if you struggle with self-control,since they’re built to keep you hooked.

[TravelMug]

How's the ambience in Solaire North though, maybe I will give it a try one of this days.  

Oh they also have this kind of tier in terms of the card. Obviously, the bigger the money that you spend on casinos, the better the tier of your card and more benefits.

Since I never tried to register for a card I cant compared much. But the ambiance is good but those you went are bigger in my opinion since I also went there sometimes. But since theres a closer one in my place now Id prefer there in solaire North. Wow it seems like you played a lot bases on your story. Thats cool to know dude.

Ok, the original Solaire is one of the biggest casinos that we have. But I will also try that Solaire North maybe if I have the extra money to gamble and bring my wife there. Just to test it out and see whether "beginners luck" might happen to me in that new casino.

Maybe I tried to register when I go there this week as I like the one you mentioned perks. Maybe theres not much difference I guess.

Yes, you might want to register and get those perks. We got the hotel accomodations before and then you can convert some points that you got into playing money.

[qwertyup23]

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I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

It's hard to speculate given that we have no clue what those cards contain. Does it perhaps track our spending habits in gambling? Does it also track our gambling habits by saving all information on which games do we play?

We can speculate all we want but one thing is for sure- the purpose of those cards primarily gives advantage to the land-based casino. Some had already mentioned that whenever we gamble using cards, it's easier to lose track of our expenses thereby causing more financial damage.

I have not seen that option in the physical casinos that I frequent. What you do is buy chips and play with them. I have not seen them having cards. I go periodically because I like to spend a pleasant time there and it is that way. Maybe some casinos apply the one-card thing, but it is a matter of taste and rules about how the casino handles things that way I don't see it as bad, but I see it as a bit Complicated.

I agree with you. Traditional land-based casinos are focused on purchasing chips that correspond to a specific value and we use these chips to gamble. I have yet to encounter a casino that mandates the use of their so-called "cards" in order to start gambling.

[mcdouglasx]

I have not seen that option in the physical casinos that I frequent. What you do is buy chips and play with them. I have not seen them having cards. I go periodically because I like to spend a pleasant time there and it is that way. Maybe some casinos apply the one-card thing, but it is a matter of taste and rules about how the casino handles things that way I don't see it as bad, but I see it as a bit Complicated.

I haven't seen it either, but I suppose the OP's suspicions are true. This could be due to a security measure, making it easier for them to study the players, see anomalies in the game in case they cheat or scam, and on the other hand, they can use it as social engineering, to find out what players prefer, and show them a more personalized experience in order to increase the frequency with which users go to the establishment, and both of these options are the most logical, and can subsist together, giving the casino useful information about its customer base.

[danadc]

I agree with you. Traditional land-based casinos are focused on purchasing chips that correspond to a specific value and we use these chips to gamble. I have yet to encounter a casino that mandates the use of their so-called "cards" in order to start gambling.

That is what we commonly use to be able to play in physical casinos , I understood the cards as a card prepared with a balance to be able to do things in the casino, recharge , bet, something like when you Pay in the Supermarket where we put the card in the reader and once it is Charged, if you do something like that it is not so bad and that you can recharge with crypto , that is Another Modality that they should Do.

[Floxynice]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

You want us to go back to the good old days where we carry cash about everywhere, even to the casino to gamble? Then when we want to stake huge amounts, we put bundles of cash on the table where everyone gets to see?

In my opinion, I don't think the member card is entirely bad. At least, it has eased gamblers the stress of moving around with cash. All you need is just your card and I think this is more convenient and safe.

Apart from this, gamblers can conveniently claim offers according to their ranks using their member cards. Casinos will always do anything to make sure gamblers come back, it is the duty of the gambler to apply all his senses.

[atookz]

Whether a membership card at a physical casino is good or bad depends on each person's point of view. You might want to try a membership card if you truly value the convenience and benefits that they usually provide such as points, bonuses, or alluring promotions. Membership cards could be a drawback, though, if privacy is important to you. I would definitely turn down a membership card if one were offered to me because I am a gambler who prefers privacy. I reduce the possibility that my personal information will be misused because I don't want it to.

[Orpichukwu]

it can be helpful for the gamblers also because they can track how much time and money they spend on the casino and it keeps them in check compared to if they were just playing with cash

It will save the gambler the time and energy which they could have been using trying to check which game they played, how much they spent on that game and the time, as the card might help them organize such records and make it easier to track the exact thing which the gambler might be wanting to track.

[tread93]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

That data is extremely valuable to them and of course they will try to use it to their advantage to entice you to join their little club so you can go in a be a part of their plum lounge and make a bunch of gsmbling friends. The elite level card members enjoy these benefits, it would he fun to try it out though

[m2017]

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

Since I also frequented local casinos, yes I have a physical card that I've used to play and earn points. I just do insert in on the machine let's say in slot games or give it to the dealer in games live baccarat and roulette. It's obvious that this card can track which games you regularly played and obviously, they can send you sms to give you updates on new games and what not.

Collecting statistics on gamblers is only half the task, as all this data still needs to be analyzed (among many other gamblers) and, when you return, the desired slot machine actions need to be performed. But I believe this hasn't been fully implemented yet. In other words, the era of controlled gambling is just beginning to emerge, and for now, only statistical data is being collected. Over time, with the introduction of AI, this data will be processed and used (in real time) to benefit the casino.

So I do agree that this is being used to track your activity and then you lure you. One thing I'm positive though is that you are earning points and then you can convert this point to real money and play, sort of rakeback like in online. I say positive because my wife was able to win big thru that points in one of those days and went home very happy.

And if your wife hadn't won anything betting with these bonus points, would you have said "no"?

Regardless of everyone's feelings about the introduction of these cards in casinos, "progress is unstoppable", and it seems that in the future, all offline casinos will be unable to function without this innovation. Another "convenience" will be the fact that, even with the abolition of cash, gamblers will be able to deposit electronic money (CBDC) onto these personal cards, which, when interacting with regulators, will make all gaming activity "transparent".

[AbuBhakar]

That data is extremely valuable to them and of course they will try to use it to their advantage to entice you to join their little club so you can go in a be a part of their plum lounge and make a bunch of gsmbling friends. The elite level card members enjoy these benefits, it would he fun to try it out though

The benefits is really good based on the experience of a friend enjoying this luxury on casino. The only challenge is you will a need huge wager just to have the maximum benefits unlike online casino VIP benefits that is accessible to all players even for new registered account.

That’s why only real VIP(whale player) have a taste of this premium benefits since physical casino has higher standards on choosing the player that will experience this benefits.

It’s far better than online casino VIP benefits in terms of experience.

[Fredomago]

It will affect their business if they will not let the withdrawal as they are liable with their customer and similar to what you said, those physical casino needs business permits and if they messed with their customers and recieved complains it will risk their entire business, for sure they are more valuing their reputation compared to those amount that they can freeze from whatever suspicious activities that they may see from their clients, this membsership card might be use to know their client more and the activities if they need to add some freebies or bonuses especially if the person is their VIP client.

Yeah, that's likely going to affect them if they will continue to do these things against their customers. And that's why they should offer the best thing for their customers and that's why if they don't like to face any trouble then they have to make sure that no customer complains and they have to serve everyone with the best that they can, from withdrawals/deposits and then the games that they offer. So, anything that's in the advantage of the customers, they'd do it but of course they're still a business after all.

Anything that will keep the  trust of their patrons/clients they should do to continue business, knowing how good those owners in terms of manipulating the mindsets of every gambler who's playing and using their services, making them believe that they've been treated nicely and to the point that they spoil them while inside the house, anything that they can offer will happily serves, but still needed to remember that it is a business where the facilatator are expecting to gain from their marketing strategy.

[Dogedegen]

If they ask for getting a physical card to play, its similar to creating an account on an online casino. They will individually track a players wins losses and their time spent among other things.

A physical card for any kind of thing is bad, any store is using it against the person. People think that they are getting some benefits for free, but there is nothing that is free. They are trading data that is more valuable for less value that they get in benefits. This is inescapable. This is also one of the reasons why they invented credit cards, cash is not inconvenient nobody is that busy in life to claim this. The primary reason is that they can better track you and mine data. I stay away from all those things, Bitcoin gives us the option of choosing freedom. Many will not wake up and take it but we can ignore them.

That is what we commonly use to be able to play in physical casinos , I understood the cards as a card prepared with a balance to be able to do things in the casino, recharge , bet, something like when you Pay in the Supermarket where we put the card in the reader and once it is Charged, if you do something like that it is not so bad and that you can recharge with crypto , that is Another Modality that they should Do.

Just because you may not understand why this is bad that does not mean that it is not. These things should be avoided at all cost.

It will save the gambler the time and energy which they could have been using trying to check which game they played, how much they spent on that game and the time, as the card might help them organize such records and make it easier to track the exact thing which the gambler might be wanting to track.

This is not a valid point because most people and gamblers like you are wasting more than half of your free time on inefficient or useless pursuits. This is only a valid point for those that are efficiency maximalists, and those people are extremely rare. Don't be lazy and do the work yourself.