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October 20, 2025, 06:12:25 PM
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There is not much difference between gambling and trading, as both involve high risk. The difference that is there is that traders believe that analysis and skills, and believe that their result is tied there but not assurance of their predict. But in gambling, in most cases, gamblers did not depend on analysis and skill. Base on some type of gambling, like in casino, nothing like analysis, but fully depend on luck. But in sports betting, if someone is good in football, it can also analyse and very possible it get the result it predict for But can just continue happen like that because some reasons, they are people who are doing the analysis and win bet. And even in trading, no matter how good and experience and trader may be, it can't always make profits in trading. It have to face some loses also and it also do to some reasons. Not that may be it did wrong analysis but may be some thing that may happen after it enter trade, which can lead to it lose. So, trading is likely gambling, as far it not always what you predict always happen.

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October 20, 2025, 08:16:28 PM
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There is not much difference between gambling and trading, as both involve high risk. The difference that is there is that traders believe that analysis and skills, and believe that their result is tied there but not assurance of their predict. But in gambling, in most cases, gamblers did not depend on analysis and skill. Base on some type of gambling, like in casino, nothing like analysis, but fully depend on luck. But in sports betting, if someone is good in football, it can also analyse and very possible it get the result it predict for But can just continue happen like that because some reasons, they are people who are doing the analysis and win bet. And even in trading, no matter how good and experience and trader may be, it can't always make profits in trading. It have to face some loses also and it also do to some reasons. Not that may be it did wrong analysis but may be some thing that may happen after it enter trade, which can lead to it lose. So, trading is likely gambling, as far it not always what you predict always happen.

What I will say is the trading part that actually people say is gambling is different from other trading since they’re categories of them, for me trading in some aspects is definitely not gambling example is Spot trading or non leverage trading or every other low risky trading,  in trading like spots you don’t get liquidated only thing is your money is down if the market price is low but once you held on to the coin and the market is back up then it actually will start pumping again. At least this is what happens when it is good coins like bitcoin that you buy and not all those shit coins which are pure gamble.

The trading that actually resembles gambling or rather I will say is a gamble is the leverage trading most especially those high leverage trading because of the high risk involve in it since someone is looking, another is Degen trading which is buying and selling memecoins all this are high risk trades which there have no much analysis but pure gamble instincts

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October 20, 2025, 08:44:17 PM
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Maybe you also don't want to be a trader that will gamble away his trading fund, learn some additional skills, strategies and improve your competence and take away the high risk attached and trade to profit and not on losses.

Trading, gambling, investing and other forms of looking for money that you can think about are all risky but the risks are what differentiate between the different forms of looking for money and make them stand apart from eachother. Trading and investing requires researching and depending on previous results for you to understand how an assets is going to perform but for gambling, depending on past performances doesn't give you the right information that you needed to win your bets. If we're thinking about becoming traders or investors, we need to let go of the mindset of gambling because that doesn't help out.

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October 20, 2025, 09:56:46 PM
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There will always be high risk in all of them, especially if you are still a newbie and is still learning the process. However, unlike gambling, you can always maximize the outcome of your trades and investment if you are already inclined into it, thus increasing the earning potentials by minimizing the risk as well. But with gambling, there’s no pro or expert when you deal such an unpredictable market that only deals with luck. You will always have the chances to lose while leaving the casino totally lucky. This isn’t just an experience-based, but this is how gambling casinos are built in order to grow and secure their income.

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October 20, 2025, 10:06:17 PM
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Frankly speaking, we are all gamblers in the first place, dealing the market unsure and lack of knowledge and skills. But as we go on getting more exposure and experience in the market, slowly we are changing the scenario, from nothingness into someone who’s more confident and more experienced, that’s because learning development takes place. I am talking about trading and investing.

Now gambling alone, the risk may be somehow minimized but the risk to lose will always be present. There are always losses when gambling, most especially for those who gamble without emotional control and discipline.

 
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October 20, 2025, 10:20:31 PM
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There will always be high risk in all of them, especially if you are still a newbie and is still learning the process. However, unlike gambling, you can always maximize the outcome of your trades and investment if you are already inclined into it, thus increasing the earning potentials by minimizing the risk as well. But with gambling, there’s no pro or expert when you deal such an unpredictable market that only deals with luck. You will always have the chances to lose while leaving the casino totally lucky. This isn’t just an experience-based, but this is how gambling casinos are built in order to grow and secure their income.
The worst case scenario that I think is very disastrous, is having to gamble and trade at same time. I am not saying it ain't possible, but the stakes is way higher than when a pure focus on either trading the day or gambling for that day is the only options available and not a mixture of both.

Any trader or gambler who knows a great deal about risk management practices will know how wasteful it is to chase both endeavors and as such, I trade only at specific times of the day between which, I don't gamble but somehow make only analysis and check data for future betting activity.

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October 20, 2025, 10:34:15 PM
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Trading and gambling are two different things and you can’t even call them the same or even compare them in-depth. Trading is a very risky investment but with calculated risk management, you’re going to be making it look like a safe risk investment. Gambling is also high risk to many people but it’s also actually a game of luck which makes it to be on the high side as you risk losing a lot of money either through playing with a skill or no skill of the game at all. Trading is seen better and risk free when you understand it, so stick to making the best out of trading, it’s for your own good in the long run.

 
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October 20, 2025, 10:37:45 PM
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Trading is not gambling. Real traders who take the time to learn and develop their skills are the true traders. However, those who just want to earn from trading without putting in the effort to learn or improve their trading skills are gamblers, not traders. In trading, there are unknown factors that will take place in the market, but it is only the skill and knowledge that have been acquired that will sustain you from losing in the market. There are traders who are not ready to go through the stress of learning and developing their trading skills; traders like this are gamblers because all they depend on in trading is just luck.

 
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October 20, 2025, 11:15:38 PM
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Trading is trading and gambling is gambling, both are different, only people often equate them because of the risk of losing money and also because both seem to be influenced only by luck.
I prefer to call myself an investor or holder because I only trade occasionally when I see an opportunity, otherwise I just buy for the long term.

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There will always be high risk in all of them, especially if you are still a newbie and is still learning the process. However, unlike gambling, you can always maximize the outcome of your trades and investment if you are already inclined into it, thus increasing the earning potentials by minimizing the risk as well. But with gambling, there’s no pro or expert when you deal such an unpredictable market that only deals with luck. You will always have the chances to lose while leaving the casino totally lucky. This isn’t just an experience-based, but this is how gambling casinos are built in order to grow and secure their income.
The worst case scenario that I think is very disastrous, is having to gamble and trade at same time. I am not saying it ain't possible, but the stakes is way higher than when a pure focus on either trading the day or gambling for that day is the only options available and not a mixture of both.

Any trader or gambler who knows a great deal about risk management practices will know how wasteful it is to chase both endeavors and as such, I trade only at specific times of the day between which, I don't gamble but somehow make only analysis and check data for future betting activity.
Mixing trading and gambling together is like playing with fire from both ends, it drains focus and emotion real fast, both already carry big risks on their own but putting them side by side only makes things worse. trading gives you room to plan, analyze, set limits and adjust your risk, while gambling is completely random with no way to control outcomes. when you mix both, it’s easy to lose that line between analysis and emotion, between patience and impulse.

Most people who try to do both end up confusing luck with skill, so one loss in gambling pushes them to trade recklessly to recover, or a bad trade makes them turn to gambling to feel better. in the end, that’s how people get trapped chasing losses from both directions. the right thing is to separate them totally. if you’re trading, stick with your routine, do your analysis, take breaks, and manage risk calmly. if you gamble, treat it like fun, nothing more, and never try to use it as backup for trading losses. Keeping a schedule helps too, like trading at certain hours and using downtime only to plan for next sessions instead of playing random bets. that structure keeps you disciplined and saves your capital from emotional mistakes. when your mind is stable, both trading and even small gambling for entertainment become safer and easier to handle.

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Trading is trading and gambling is gambling, both are different, only people often equate them because of the risk of losing money and also because both seem to be influenced only by luck.
I prefer to call myself an investor or holder because I only trade occasionally when I see an opportunity, otherwise I just buy for the long term.

Of course, trading and gambling are different, the names of both say it all but it must be admitted that they also have similarities.

Also, people often equate them because both tend to trigger get rich quick ambitions and stimulate people’s greed. Therefore, it is not entirely wrong to say that trading is somewhat like gambling, or it can also be called gambling if the trader trades based on luck, emotions instead of knowledge, strategy.

Ultimately, whether we are traders or gamblers depends on how we use them.

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We all gamble in this crypto market. Taking the risk to invest our funds or trade with a decent amount of capital, wherein there’s no assurance what will be the market performance after today and tomorrow, all we did are actually gambling. It’s just that we gamble because there is high probability rate of profiting from the market, so taking risk itself is like gambling if we somehow analyze it deeply.

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We are not Gambler, But Traders and Investors

I know some of us might have come across this maybe on the internet, but maybe we could just take a time and ask ourselves that same question and provided an answer to it.

If it's not gambling, then what is it? High risk investment?

As for me, in either trading or investment, I will prefer taking out the high risk and made an investment with Bitcoin for a long time and have no risk in it.

Maybe you also don't want to be a trader that will gamble away his trading fund, learn some additional skills, strategies and improve your competence and take away the high risk attached and trade to profit and not on losses.

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You're right — we're not gamblers, we're strategic traders. Taking time to learn skills and reduce risk is key. Just take a look at PDF on scalping strategies that proofs it and can boost trading competence. Let’s keep improving and trade smart!
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Everyone may have experienced moving from house A and running to house B to reduce or offset losses. But returning to their original capital in current market conditions is no easy task, even if they purchased class II assets. With mixed assets, the situation is even worse. There's nothing more enjoyable than a rise in the price of BTC, and everything will be pumped back up.
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We all gamble in this crypto market. Taking the risk to invest our funds or trade with a decent amount of capital, wherein there’s no assurance what will be the market performance after today and tomorrow, all we did are actually gambling. It’s just that we gamble because there is high probability rate of profiting from the market, so taking risk itself is like gambling if we somehow analyze it deeply.

Nevertheless, if we keep playing safe and won’t dare taking risk, won’t dare gambling, we won’t be seeing our lives in the future creating some real, valuables changes.

If we put it the way you do, investing in gold, real estate or any asset is a gamble. The only difference between them is that the risk level of each asset is different, and the greater the risk, the higher the return and vice versa.

Or to put it bluntly, our life is inherently a gamble because risks are always lurking around us and we cannot know what will happen tomorrow. Anything can happen, nothing is certain or 100% absolute in life. Our life is also a gamble.

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All of these have their own individual risks. The only difference is that, in gambling you will always face the risk to lose because gambling is often a game of luck, and not all gamblers are lucky enough, so rest assured that a lot would lose while leaving only 1 or 2 gamblers in profits.

However, with trading and investing, through risks are certain, but we can always manage to lessen the risk if we actually know what we are doing. If we have the proper understanding, knowledge, necessary skills and strategies that would make trading and investing more manageable and profitable. This way, we can avoid chances of losing while we are working on maximizing the positive outcome and make profitable gains in the long run.
The problem is that some people are trading like they are gambling, they used high margin ratio and they may even going for volatile altcoins which makes them to continue to lose. They can have $1000 and make $5000 from it but later they will see all gone. They can trade for weeks and win but lose all within a short period of time.

You are right about being able to make money in trading than in gambling, the change is very high in trading but most traders are using trading to gamble. That is the reason you will see that most traders are losing.

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If it's not gambling, then what is it? High risk investment?

To be fair, everything we do in life carries some level of risk, the difference is how we manage it. Trading or investing, if you will,  isn’t gambling when there’s knowledge, planning, and discipline involved. What makes it risky is acting on emotion or guessing instead of strategy.

Personally, I see it as calculated risk. The goal isn’t to eliminate it completely but to understand it well enough to make informed decisions. That’s what separates a gambler from a trader, one depends on luck, the other depends on skill and consistency.
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To be fair, everything we do in life carries some level of risk, the difference is how we manage it. Trading or investing, if you will,  isn’t gambling when there’s knowledge, planning, and discipline involved. What makes it risky is acting on emotion or guessing instead of strategy.

Personally, I see it as calculated risk. The goal isn’t to eliminate it completely but to understand it well enough to make informed decisions. That’s what separates a gambler from a trader, one depends on luck, the other depends on skill and consistency.
Moreover, the difference between gambling and trading is that at gambling you are not just taking a risk, you are accepting that if you keep gambling then house edge will beat you, but at trading you can make money, it is not about luck, it's about the fact that we are going to end up with a great return if we do what we are suppose to be doing.

Most people forget that is the chance and that is why we should be avoiding what we are doing and focus on the best part if we can. That isn't going to be easy at all, but it is going to be possible and we can get the great return that we deserve. We shouldn't really get the results that we wish, we should focus on what we deserve. You can't be deserving huge return, by just making up ideas or being influenced by influencers, money making isn't that easy.

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Playing safe is when you're unable to get what is not in your disposal by force, if you can't afford trading loss, to for an investment, trading has it risk and could also be promising on a very short time, but some don't consider the risk in it, but the best advice for a newbie is starting by investment, no risk attached.

Is there any investment that there is no risk attached to it, I doubt it there is any like that. If there was, then everyone would have become a profitable investor without any fear of emotions attached to it. Whether trading or investment, there is a certain level of risk attached to it that makes one become sceptical in what they’re doing.

Gambling is another different investment on its own that is also accompanied by risk. Just know how to manage your risk well if you want to go far in investment, trading or gambling activities. They say, no risk no gain but it’s also important to always take a calculated risk and not jump into any money making scheme for the quick profits.











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October 21, 2025, 07:44:13 PM
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We are not Gambler, But Traders and Investors

I know some of us might have come across this maybe on the internet, but maybe we could just take a time and ask ourselves that same question and provided an answer to it.

If it's not gambling, then what is it? High risk investment?

As for me, in either trading or investment, I will prefer taking out the high risk and made an investment with Bitcoin for a long time and have no risk in it.

Maybe you also don't want to be a trader that will gamble away his trading fund, learn some additional skills, strategies and improve your competence and take away the high risk attached and trade to profit and not on losses.


We are also gamblers, why are we not gamblers because we gamble even though we gamble for entertainment we still gamble here we cannot completely deny it. Now we gamble, trade and invest but even though trading is like high risk gambling then we trade to experience ourselves and learn all the strategies of trading in that case if it is high risk then we should continue but investment is not high risk at all because if a person holds Bitcoin for long term then he does not bear high risk because he is not gambling online and is not trading due to which the chances of losing his money will be very low.

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