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November 30, 2025, 02:29:12 PM
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But there will still be people who equate the perception of both. Because there are indeed traders who treat trading like gambling. They might think they are doing analysis, but what actually happens is that they rely on feelings and instincts to open trade positions. It's the same for those who gamble.

Conceptually, trading and gambling are different. But whether trading is gambling or not will depend on the trader.
We cannot call someone a trader and that person is trading when they open positions based on emotions and luck instead of knowledge and analysis. In this case, he is a gambler and is gambling not investing or trading. He just used trading to cover up his gambling.

However, it cannot be denied that gambling and trading have many similarities and many people have abused them, so it is inevitable that people equate them.

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December 17, 2025, 05:53:54 PM
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If it's not gambling, then what is it? High risk investment?
The difference between gambling and trading or investing is mostly in the mindset and how decision is made. Gambling is usually driven by emotions and the hope quick results, while trading and investing on the hand require patience, planning and understanding what you are putting your money into. So, the main difference lies in your mindset because both depend on probability regardless of how good your analysis, you dont control the market.

Gambling is high risk but so is trading but when people rush in without knowledge or discipline that is when it starts to look like gambling, with skills, experience and clear plan, that same market can be approached in a completely different way, one focused more on growth rather than just chasing wins.

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December 17, 2025, 08:08:03 PM
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I'll let people what they think of me and what they want me to call with, if they think that I am gambler that's fine because I am. If they think of me as an investor or a trader, I'm still fine because all of it is what I do. And I think that others won't be bothered if they're all called with the three that you've said. We're not bitter to what they think of us because if we gamble, we gamble with our money. If we trade and invest, it's also our money so, it's not a big deal. Only butthurt people will be affected by whichever they're called with.

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December 18, 2025, 03:14:23 PM
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Gambling is high risk but so is trading but when people rush in without knowledge or discipline that is when it starts to look like gambling, with skills, experience and clear plan, that same market can be approached in a completely different way, one focused more on growth rather than just chasing wins.
Trading and gambling have one thing in common, which is losing money, but the difference between them are very clear, one is a skill base craft while gambling is based on luck, so they are not the same.
As you have said already, once a trader start trading the market blindly with no knowledge on technical and fundamental analysis, just hoping for something to happen, that's no longer trading but it's pure gambling, and if any trader approaches trading as if he is gambling, the chances of him losing and blowing his account is extremely high, but I will always choose to be a trader over   a gambler since gambling can easily leads to addiction if done frequently without control.

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December 18, 2025, 03:36:46 PM
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Gambling is high risk but so is trading but when people rush in without knowledge or discipline that is when it starts to look like gambling, with skills, experience and clear plan, that same market can be approached in a completely different way, one focused more on growth rather than just chasing wins.
Trading and gambling have one thing in common, which is losing money, but the difference between them are very clear, one is a skill base craft while gambling is based on luck, so they are not the same.
As you have said already, once a trader start trading the market blindly with no knowledge on technical and fundamental analysis, just hoping for something to happen, that's no longer trading but it's pure gambling, and if any trader approaches trading as if he is gambling, the chances of him losing and blowing his account is extremely high, but I will always choose to be a trader over   a gambler since gambling can easily leads to addiction if done frequently without control.

I agree overall but ngl even skilled traders still lose money sometimes, skill just lowers the odds XD

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December 19, 2025, 06:56:57 AM
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I agree overall but ngl even skilled traders still lose money sometimes, skill just lowers the odds XD
Skilled traders lose money a lot. I think there's no such thing as skilled, it's just a mirage. Only skilled traders in the market are those HFT ran by trading firm.
Most of us here trading by playing with probability. Lets be frank thats actually what most of us are doing and TA does increase the odd a little to win but in the end it's just game of probability.

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December 19, 2025, 11:20:18 AM
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Exactly trading is not gambling , Aslong you know why you are doing . Like having good strategy and trading plan too . But many choose to gamble by avoiding the process of learning and focusing on building the a better trading plan, all they know is to buy when the price low and sell when the price high , but due to no strategy they endup doing the opposite while those that have the proper skill are traders not gamblers.

Trading requires a lot of skills and experience, which no one has in the beginning. Those who gamble do not have to gain much experience. Because they can bet on different games very easily or play slot games very easily, they don't have to go to anyone for this. But trading is an exception, we who are gaining experience and know about the market, still cannot trade successfully. The most important thing in trading is technical analysis and if you are able to do it, then you can get success in trading. That's why we have to work a lot here.

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December 19, 2025, 02:16:25 PM
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Exactly trading is not gambling , Aslong you know why you are doing . Like having good strategy and trading plan too . But many choose to gamble by avoiding the process of learning and focusing on building the a better trading plan, all they know is to buy when the price low and sell when the price high , but due to no strategy they endup doing the opposite while those that have the proper skill are traders not gamblers.
Yes, I agree with what you said, the key difference between trading and gambling lies in the element of control and risk management. Trading also involves high risks, but we can also set automatic limits to exit a position if the price moves against your analysis by using SL or reaches the target achieved, namely profit by using TP. This can also prevent much bigger losses and lock in profits when the time is right, this is all based on market analysis, not just luck. Many traders fail because of uncontrolled emotions such as holding positions too long or overtrading. Unlike gambling, everything depends on random results or luck.

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December 20, 2025, 11:28:15 PM
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Trading only looks like gambling when there is no plan. Once you manage risk and stick to rules it’s a different game. Long term Bitcoin holding is less stressful for sure but even that has risk people just forget the drawdowns.

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December 23, 2025, 05:12:38 AM
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There is a fine line between gambling and trading, although theoretically trading and gambling are different. In gambling, the decisions we make are not guaranteed no matter how much we research them, they are mostly based on luck. Similarly, if someone trades just to make money without any skill or strategy based on luck, it becomes like gambling. The results of such trading are uncertain. And if a person trades like this, he will not be considered a trader even if he is involved in the crypto market. It is a high-risk investment where it is not possible to make a profit without analysis, skill or market planning.

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December 26, 2025, 07:44:09 PM
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Exactly trading is not gambling , Aslong you know why you are doing . Like having good strategy and trading plan too . But many choose to gamble by avoiding the process of learning and focusing on building the a better trading plan, all they know is to buy when the price low and sell when the price high , but due to no strategy they endup doing the opposite while those that have the proper skill are traders not gamblers.

Trading requires a lot of skills and experience, which no one has in the beginning. Those who gamble do not have to gain much experience. Because they can bet on different games very easily or play slot games very easily, they don't have to go to anyone for this. But trading is an exception, we who are gaining experience and know about the market, still cannot trade successfully. The most important thing in trading is technical analysis and if you are able to do it, then you can get success in trading. That's why we have to work a lot here.
If you don't have a skill there is no way you can make money from trading at least when it comes to gambling you just need one day or two to master, but it takes a lot of time to Master trading because you need to understand the chart and every single pattern they are forming needs to be understood, because if you don't understand it there is no way you can make it possible when you don't have the knowledge. And the the psychology might be the same but a lot of things are things are different but they should know that the two are different. And trading is even more fun than gambling,  and gambling should be for the fun.

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Trading and gambling have one thing in common, which is losing money, but the difference between them are very clear, one is a skill base craft while gambling is based on luck, so they are not the same.


Gambling and trading are two different concepts, but they have many similarities. You cannot guarantee a profit with a trade, even if you have the knowledge, experience, and skills. Those things only help you increase your chances of winning and minimize risks, they don't guarantee anything. In the end, to succeed in trading, you also need luck.

Furthermore, regardless of the differences between them, an interesting fact is that nearly 99% of gamblers lose and only 1% win. Similarly, according to numerous surveys, 90-95% of traders lose money and make no profit. Only a few people succeed and make a profit, and even then, the profit is not stable.

Conceptually, they may be different, but in reality, they are clearly the same, and most of us are gambling.

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We are not Gambler, But Traders and Investors

As far as I know, there are several methods that can be used in crypto trading, of course this is all done according to your own skills and context, the aim is to overcome the ongoing risk of loss.

For example, if we do Margin Trading, of course we understand how the process works, in essence the risk that we often face is the opposite if the market moves against you, that is what often happens to those who do Margin Trading.
Meanwhile, for the futures trading method, you only need to have two concepts, namely a strong analysis of the market, such as Long (Buy) and Short (Sell), you only need to consider whether prices are going up or down, this is where most people make mistakes in their analysis and often experience losses.

Conclusion, trading is different from gambling, but there is both a risk of loss, if we don't understand the trading method we use, our gambling will be required to play differently like Margin and futures or spot.
So, if you don't understand trading, just make an investment, it might be better and the risk is low.

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December 27, 2025, 01:12:20 PM
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It doesn’t matter if some people say we are gamblers. The fact is, we buy and own assets, then sell those assets as well. Even though they are digital assets, they still exist, can be shaped, and on some platforms they even function as utilities within the ecosystem. Just because we are investors who buy and take profits from investments, we are labeled as gamblers. But explaining it to them is pointless anyway.

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Trading and gambling have one thing in common, which is losing money, but the difference between them are very clear, one is a skill base craft while gambling is based on luck, so they are not the same.

Conceptually, they may be different, but in reality, they are clearly the same, and most of us are gambling.
My concept about trading and gambling are somewhat similar in terms of risk, in reality they are completely different. To trade, a trader has to rely on skills, knowledge and expertise. To understand market trends analyze, one has to acquire skills. It is risky but it is not gambling. The results of trading most of the time depend on decisions and plans. After acquiring proper skills, if someone can make the right decisions, then his chances of doing well in trading are very high. In gambling, most of the time one has to rely on luck. No analysis and skills are useful. There is no way to control risk in gambling. Risk has to be taken in every bet. In gambling, everything happens randomly. It is true that a trader can also behave like a gambler if he tries to trade only by relying on luck after acquiring proper analysis or skills.











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December 27, 2025, 05:11:50 PM
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There is always a lot less risk in investing than in trading. If a person keeps it for a long time, then he can profit, from the past till now we have seen that those who have kept it for a long time have profited so far. So we can say that the risk in investing is very low.

There is a lot of risk in trading. Nowadays, many people have changed trading into gambling and many people call trading gambling. The biggest reason for this is that they start trading without learning it completely and if a person profits from trading, then they are not willing to gain more knowledge. Those who do not learn trading completely and lose a lot of money, then they call trading gambling and those who they told about this and when they saw that they could not profit by trading, they call trading gambling. A person should always learn trading completely and trade. When a person learns completely, the possibility of losing money will be much less, so as much knowledge as possible should be gained.

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Trading and gambling have one thing in common, which is losing money, but the difference between them are very clear, one is a skill base craft while gambling is based on luck, so they are not the same.


Gambling and trading are two different concepts, but they have many similarities. You cannot guarantee a profit with a trade, even if you have the knowledge, experience, and skills. Those things only help you increase your chances of winning and minimize risks, they don't guarantee anything. In the end, to succeed in trading, you also need luck.

Furthermore, regardless of the differences between them, an interesting fact is that nearly 99% of gamblers lose and only 1% win. Similarly, according to numerous surveys, 90-95% of traders lose money and make no profit. Only a few people succeed and make a profit, and even then, the profit is not stable.

Conceptually, they may be different, but in reality, they are clearly the same, and most of us are gambling.
Trading and gambling have some similarity, And it’s depend om you, In the trading you have two option, Spot and future trading, future trading is almost similar to gambling, But in spot trading, you get chances to recover your loses, And you can change your decision.
In crypto trading of course you need to knowledge, skills and good experiences, then your profits chances is high. Gambling is different here, You need to luck to win, skills, experience is no need in gambling.

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I agree with much of what's been said here—trading does involve risk, and without proper knowledge, experience, and risk management, it can feel a lot like gambling, especially in high-leverage futures or volatile memecoin plays. Spot trading and long-term holding generally carry lower risk, as you have more time to recover.

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Trading is not gambling, but because trading is very risky is the reason some people call it gambling. I always prefer to advice people to hold than to trade because I know how risky gambling is. Investing in bitcoin is passive but if the money is not touched for a long period of time, it will be highly rewarding than losing while trading.
It is true that trading is not gambling, but trading can be used like gambling. And most traders use trading in such a way that it is like a kind of gambling. Because most traders are addicted to futures trading. Where large amounts can be traded with small funds. And there is a lot of opportunity to make profit. Due to which most traders prefer futures trading instead of spot trading. And if you make a wrong entry there, the balance becomes zero. In the case of gambling, if you win, you can win double or even several times more, and if you lose, the balance becomes zero. So in some cases, trading can be compared to gambling.
Trading can indeed be gambling depending on how the traders execute their trades. there are traders that make use of a high leverage just because they want to flip a small amount to a huge profit, no risk management or discipline at all, this is gambling and even though they might be lucky enough to make profit in a short term the long term run isn't really goong to be profitable for them

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Trading can indeed be gambling depending on how the traders execute their trades. there are traders that make use of a high leverage just because they want to flip a small amount to a huge profit, no risk management or discipline at all, this is gambling and even though they might be lucky enough to make profit in a short term the long term run isn't really goong to be profitable for them
Yes I agree with you that trading and gambling are two different things but their is a way you approach trading and it will be like you are gambling, because it would be unsustainable on the longer run if you were lucky enough to even be lucky from the beginning, and those instances that makes trading seems like gambling are when you enter the market with no knowledge on technical and fundamental analysis, you just venture into the market hoping for a miracle, at that point, you are no longer trading, but you are gambling because you don't even know what you are doing, you are just trading blindly hoping that lucks shine on you, that is gambling.
Another thing that you do that turns trading to gambling is high leverage, what you said about it are true, it's not sustainable on the longer run, so it's gambling.

 
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