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December 29, 2025, 08:42:43 AM
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Trading can indeed be gambling depending on how the traders execute their trades. there are traders that make use of a high leverage just because they want to flip a small amount to a huge profit, no risk management or discipline at all, this is gambling and even though they might be lucky enough to make profit in a short term the long term run isn't really goong to be profitable for them
Yeah a trader or investors can be said to be a gambler when his trading patterns are not in the appropriate manners. Some traders are not just here to stay longer in the market they really want to make their first millions within just a few months of trading not knowing things aren’t done that way.
If a trader chases after making quick money and using of higher or bigger lot size then such trader trading journey would not last long or stay long in the market. The market always rewards hard works and knowledge not luck or predictions. The earlier we understand the process the better.
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December 29, 2025, 11:45:47 AM
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As for me, in either trading or investment, I will prefer taking out the high risk and made an investment with Bitcoin for a long time and have no risk in it.

Maybe you also don't want to be a trader that will gamble away his trading fund, learn some additional skills, strategies and improve your competence and take away the high risk attached and trade to profit and not on losses.
Trading is not gambling in the strict sense, but sometimes people's patterns of involvement in it resemble those of gambling. This is perhaps the mistake some people make when engaging in trading, as they think it doesn't require sound knowledge, making trading like gambling because it relies on instinct or luck. Trading is much riskier if someone doesn't understand it well, and involvement in trading also requires proper knowledge.

Engaging in trading for the sake of luck is like gambling, and this is what we often see among people who misunderstand trading. Before engaging in trading, one must learn how to trade properly and develop a strategy that can minimize their risk. In my opinion, relying on multiple strategies actually makes it difficult to establish a consistent trading pattern.


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December 29, 2025, 12:50:48 PM
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Trading is not gambling in the strict sense, but sometimes people's patterns of involvement in it resemble those of gambling. This is perhaps the mistake some people make when engaging in trading, as they think it doesn't require sound knowledge, making trading like gambling because it relies on instinct or luck. Trading is much riskier if someone doesn't understand it well, and involvement in trading also requires proper knowledge.

Engaging in trading for the sake of luck is like gambling, and this is what we often see among people who misunderstand trading. Before engaging in trading, one must learn how to trade properly and develop a strategy that can minimize their risk. In my opinion, relying on multiple strategies actually makes it difficult to establish a consistent trading pattern.

What you said makes a lot of sense. Trading may not be gambling, but the problem is that many traders are gambling instead of actually trading in the market. This inadvertently leads many people to view trading as similar to gambling, and equate the two.

In reality, many self-proclaimed traders rely on luck and open trades based on emotion rather than knowledge and skill. Clearly, they are gambling, not trading, and they are simply using trading to cover up their gambling activities.

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December 29, 2025, 05:47:21 PM
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Trading is not gambling in the strict sense, but sometimes people's patterns of involvement in it resemble those of gambling. This is perhaps the mistake some people make when engaging in trading, as they think it doesn't require sound knowledge, making trading like gambling because it relies on instinct or luck. Trading is much riskier if someone doesn't understand it well, and involvement in trading also requires proper knowledge.

Engaging in trading for the sake of luck is like gambling, and this is what we often see among people who misunderstand trading. Before engaging in trading, one must learn how to trade properly and develop a strategy that can minimize their risk. In my opinion, relying on multiple strategies actually makes it difficult to establish a consistent trading pattern.

What you said makes a lot of sense. Trading may not be gambling, but the problem is that many traders are gambling instead of actually trading in the market. This inadvertently leads many people to view trading as similar to gambling, and equate the two.

In reality, many self-proclaimed traders rely on luck and open trades based on emotion rather than knowledge and skill. Clearly, they are gambling, not trading, and they are simply using trading to cover up their gambling activities.
Trading without any research is clearly equivalent to gambling, if trading is conducted correctly it is trading but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely like gambling. Here, decisions should be made based on research not emotion but reality, otherwise emotional decisions only lead to losses. So understand the reality, use trading correctly, then it is possible to get very good results from it, but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely harmful.

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December 29, 2025, 06:30:05 PM
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Trading is not gambling in the strict sense, but sometimes people's patterns of involvement in it resemble those of gambling. This is perhaps the mistake some people make when engaging in trading, as they think it doesn't require sound knowledge, making trading like gambling because it relies on instinct or luck. Trading is much riskier if someone doesn't understand it well, and involvement in trading also requires proper knowledge.

Engaging in trading for the sake of luck is like gambling, and this is what we often see among people who misunderstand trading. Before engaging in trading, one must learn how to trade properly and develop a strategy that can minimize their risk. In my opinion, relying on multiple strategies actually makes it difficult to establish a consistent trading pattern.
Becoming a trader is not as easy as one might imagine and requires a serious learning process, especially when it comes to conducting analyses that are not as simple as one might think. At the very least, before creating a trading strategy or forming a plan, we will first conduct analyses in several aspects, such as technical and fundamental aspects. Or even add sentimental aspects to get an overall view of market trends and hype surrounding a trading pair. After completing several analyses, we then determine our position with proper risk management. So, trading should not rely solely on speculation without analysis and luck, but should always involve careful analysis before starting.

 
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December 29, 2025, 08:00:31 PM
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As for me, in either trading or investment, I will prefer taking out the high risk and made an investment with Bitcoin for a long time and have no risk in it.

Maybe you also don't want to be a trader that will gamble away his trading fund, learn some additional skills, strategies and improve your competence and take away the high risk attached and trade to profit and not on losses.
Trading is not gambling in the strict sense, but sometimes people's patterns of involvement in it resemble those of gambling. This is perhaps the mistake some people make when engaging in trading, as they think it doesn't require sound knowledge, making trading like gambling because it relies on instinct or luck. Trading is much riskier if someone doesn't understand it well, and involvement in trading also requires proper knowledge.

Engaging in trading for the sake of luck is like gambling, and this is what we often see among people who misunderstand trading. Before engaging in trading, one must learn how to trade properly and develop a strategy that can minimize their risk. In my opinion, relying on multiple strategies actually makes it difficult to establish a consistent trading pattern.

I think most people actually know that trading isn’t really gambling. Perhaps some traders enter this industry thinking it seems like gambling,
but the truth is, it really isn't.

In fact, many consider trading as their own business. Our profitability depends on having sufficient knowledge in chart analysis, the use of indicators,
and other tools that can be applied in actual trades.

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December 29, 2025, 09:36:33 PM
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Many people compare it to gambling, but in reality, it is not. Every investment has risks, but those investments that have high risks also have high returns. In gambling, you have to invest based on luck and there is no intelligence, planning or statistics, but in trading, you do not have to rely entirely on luck, but by investing with high risks using your knowledge, statistics, mathematics, planning and experience, you can make big profits.

The profit or loss in trading depends on the mindset of taking risks. Therefore, trading can be called a high-risk investment rather than gambling.

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December 29, 2025, 11:35:53 PM
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Many people compare it to gambling, but in reality, it is not. Every investment has risks, but those investments that have high risks also have high returns. In gambling, you have to invest based on luck and there is no intelligence, planning or statistics, but in trading, you do not have to rely entirely on luck, but by investing with high risks using your knowledge, statistics, mathematics, planning and experience, you can make big profits.

The profit or loss in trading depends on the mindset of taking risks. Therefore, trading can be called a high-risk investment rather than gambling.
However, many people compare futures trading to gambling. In general, spot trading is less risky and the profit margin is also low. But futures trades are very risky, the profit margin is also high, as well as the rate of losses is very high. So many people compare it to gambling. Besides, I think trade and gambling are completely different. Knowledge is a very important thing in trading, it is not possible to do well in trading without proper knowledge. On the other hand, gambling does not require much knowledge, if you are lucky, you can win in gambling.

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December 30, 2025, 04:40:57 AM
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Many people compare it to gambling, but in reality, it is not. Every investment has risks, but those investments that have high risks also have high returns. In gambling, you have to invest based on luck and there is no intelligence, planning or statistics, but in trading, you do not have to rely entirely on luck, but by investing with high risks using your knowledge, statistics, mathematics, planning and experience, you can make big profits.

The profit or loss in trading depends on the mindset of taking risks. Therefore, trading can be called a high-risk investment rather than gambling.
However, many people compare futures trading to gambling. In general, spot trading is less risky and the profit margin is also low. But futures trades are very risky, the profit margin is also high, as well as the rate of losses is very high. So many people compare it to gambling. Besides, I think trade and gambling are completely different. Knowledge is a very important thing in trading, it is not possible to do well in trading without proper knowledge. On the other hand, gambling does not require much knowledge, if you are lucky, you can win in gambling.

I share the general argument that gambling cannot be equated with trading and investing. Decisions made in the trading do not tend to be based on mere luck especially the ones made after an analysis, statistics, experience and appropriate management of risk. Although all investments are risky, traders can enhance their performances in the long run by learning the market and limiting their exposure. Gambling on the other hand is largely reliant on chance and there is not much prospect of long term enhancement based on skill. The bewilderment is usually caused by the futures trading where poor discipline and high leverage can make trading very much like gambling. Spot trading and long term investments are overall safer since the risks can be easily handled. Eventually gambling arises when there is no strategy and discipline in trading.

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December 30, 2025, 06:07:23 AM
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What you said makes a lot of sense. Trading may not be gambling, but the problem is that many traders are gambling instead of actually trading in the market. This inadvertently leads many people to view trading as similar to gambling, and equate the two.

In reality, many self-proclaimed traders rely on luck and open trades based on emotion rather than knowledge and skill. Clearly, they are gambling, not trading, and they are simply using trading to cover up their gambling activities.
Yes, trading in itself is not gambling but the way alot of people who go into trading approach it is what makes it look like it is gambling in the eyes of them and others. When you trade and you allowed your trades to be based in hopes, emotions or random entries instead of a clear risk management plans and the proper understanding of how the market operates then it is no going to look any different from someone else who is into placing of bets. Alot of self proclaimed like you mentioned traders depend solely on luck and begin to chase losses over leverage and making sorts of impulsive decisions is why trading gets such bad names but real traders do not trade like so, real trading in his nature is low, sometimes boring and well structured with knowledge and understanding, it is about you fixing probabilities and management of risks and also the ability to accept losses when they come and learn to improve on them is all part and parcel of the trading process.

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December 30, 2025, 06:10:53 AM
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Many people compare it to gambling, but in reality, it is not. Every investment has risks, but those investments that have high risks also have high returns. In gambling, you have to invest based on luck and there is no intelligence, planning or statistics, but in trading, you do not have to rely entirely on luck, but by investing with high risks using your knowledge, statistics, mathematics, planning and experience, you can make big profits.

The profit or loss in trading depends on the mindset of taking risks. Therefore, trading can be called a high-risk investment rather than gambling.
You must understand that trading, investing and gambling are different, so there is no word for gambling investment relying on luck, that is a big mistake in understanding investment and gambling, unless you invest in gambling developers or casino owners so that you have an allocated share in the profit sharing.
Investing is an activity that requires you to invest in a particular asset that you are interested in for future returns while trading is a buying and selling activity where you will buy at a low price to sell at a high price in the short term or you can trade derivatives which have different trading mechanisms.

Trading and Investing can be gambling if someone who does it does not do research, does not understand what he is buying and thinks only about profit, I will buy gold hopefully tomorrow I can make a big profit, or in derivatives and deliberately put leverage to increase profits but does not have a basis for why he put the position and only rely on hope and luck in his trading it falls under the concept of gambling even though trading and investing are not included in gambling, so the location of gambling is not in the asset but in the procedure or mechanism.

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Trading without any research is clearly equivalent to gambling, if trading is conducted correctly it is trading but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely like gambling. Here, decisions should be made based on research not emotion but reality, otherwise emotional decisions only lead to losses. So understand the reality, use trading correctly, then it is possible to get very good results from it, but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely harmful.
Research is indeed endless due to the ever-changing market conditions. However, for traders who are already in the market frequently and consistently observe market changes throughout the year, they may only need a little research and no longer need to spend more time on the same thing. Meanwhile, for those who are less frequent in the market or trade under different conditions, they will naturally need to spend a little more time on this research to avoid making wrong decisions. Because in trading, relying solely on emotions and guesswork is strongly discouraged, as the risks are always borne solely by the individual.

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But futures trades are very risky, the profit margin is also high, as well as the rate of losses is very high. So many people compare it to gambling. ..

This happens if the trader opens an order using high leverage for the entire deposit, and if the price goes in the opposite direction by only a few percent, he receives a liquidation. This is the similarity with the casino: guessing the direction - made a profit, not guessing - got liquidation.

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Becoming a trader is not as easy as one might imagine and requires a serious learning process, especially when it comes to conducting analyses that are not as simple as one might think. At the very least, before creating a trading strategy or forming a plan, we will first conduct analyses in several aspects, such as technical and fundamental aspects. Or even add sentimental aspects to get an overall view of market trends and hype surrounding a trading pair. After completing several analyses, we then determine our position with proper risk management. So, trading should not rely solely on speculation without analysis and luck, but should always involve careful analysis before starting.
A lack of knowledge in trading is precisely what turns it into gambling. If a beginner lacks the patience to acquire all the necessary knowledge, they might start trading immediately after learning a few patterns and think that's enough. But this is a huge mistake, because even experienced traders aren't always able to accurately predict market movements, so at first they'll be trading based on luck, mistakes, and conclusions, and thus learning will take place through practice.

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There is all brand about trading is risky and requiries indefined proper knowledge to have. Sooo what about that knowledge? Could anybody list it?
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Many people compare it to gambling, but in reality, it is not. Every investment has risks, but those investments that have high risks also have high returns. In gambling, you have to invest based on luck and there is no intelligence, planning or statistics, but in trading, you do not have to rely entirely on luck, but by investing with high risks using your knowledge, statistics, mathematics, planning and experience, you can make big profits.

The profit or loss in trading depends on the mindset of taking risks. Therefore, trading can be called a high-risk investment rather than gambling.

Very inspiring speech. Please describe your analyse routine. On which points you use math and statistics in building plan
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I think most people actually know that trading isn’t really gambling. Perhaps some traders enter this industry thinking it seems like gambling,
but the truth is, it really isn't.

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I also don't agree if anyone says trading is gambling, over the years I have learned trading from the use of Indicators from the technical side or A News from the Fundamental side.
From learning that, I have never experienced a big loss, but I can still minimize those losses. I can certainly get profits.

Trading that is considered gambling is only for people who have never learned the basics of how to trade itself, there are some people who can only make buy and sell entries but the reason for the entry they don't know, they just buy but basically they don't understand.

That's what gambling is called trading.

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December 30, 2025, 03:33:34 PM
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But futures trades are very risky, the profit margin is also high, as well as the rate of losses is very high. So many people compare it to gambling. ..

This happens if the trader opens an order using high leverage for the entire deposit, and if the price goes in the opposite direction by only a few percent, he receives a liquidation. This is the similarity with the casino: guessing the direction - made a profit, not guessing - got liquidation.

Essentially, anything done aggressively will have serious repercussions, especially in activities that are clearly risky from the start, like trading. Liquidity will definitely be your best friend when you can't adapt your trading approach to a more minimal one.

Honestly, I'm tempted by large profits, but I'm more concerned about the risks, as not all predictions are accurate. So, to minimize significant risk, I prefer to trade with small amounts. The most important thing, in my opinion, is consistency, even if the profits are small.

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Trading without any research is clearly equivalent to gambling, if trading is conducted correctly it is trading but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely like gambling. Here, decisions should be made based on research not emotion but reality, otherwise emotional decisions only lead to losses. So understand the reality, use trading correctly, then it is possible to get very good results from it, but if it is conducted incorrectly it is definitely harmful.
Research is indeed endless due to the ever-changing market conditions. However, for traders who are already in the market frequently and consistently observe market changes throughout the year, they may only need a little research and no longer need to spend more time on the same thing. Meanwhile, for those who are less frequent in the market or trade under different conditions, they will naturally need to spend a little more time on this research to avoid making wrong decisions. Because in trading, relying solely on emotions and guesswork is strongly discouraged, as the risks are always borne solely by the individual.
We are see many gamblers in the market who want to become rich in a day or over night because they have money and they are hungry to earn a huge amount of money which is not an easy task . People are doing gambling because they gambled and they got something from that and after they are habitual to lose that money. Many people are traders but they are not trader because they got no classes of trading and they only invested their money which is not good if anyone is want to start the trading. People are losing in trading because that is very difficult for the people. Many people are in profit because they invested a lot of time on that and they are getting profit and they can sell the asset which they have .

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December 30, 2025, 03:48:46 PM
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I think most people actually know that trading isn’t really gambling. Perhaps some traders enter this industry thinking it seems like gambling,
but the truth is, it really isn't.

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I also don't agree if anyone says trading is gambling, over the years I have learned trading from the use of Indicators from the technical side or A News from the Fundamental side.
From learning that, I have never experienced a big loss, but I can still minimize those losses. I can certainly get profits.

Trading that is considered gambling is only for people who have never learned the basics of how to trade itself, there are some people who can only make buy and sell entries but the reason for the entry they don't know, they just buy but basically they don't understand.

That's what gambling is called trading.

They don't want to know. They want to see only the green without any of the red.

Which is not possible if you are new to trading, but you can minimize your risks and losses.

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