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October 21, 2025, 01:12:35 PM
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Quantum eMotion, in partnership with Krown Technologies  made the official announcement  regarding the release of the world's first quantum-secured hot wallet namely Qastle with its official launch scheduled for November 1st.

I would like to highlight two claims they made:

1) "Qastle is universally available on iPhone, Android, tablets, browser extensions, laptops, desktops, and virtually every platform where digital assets are stored and transacted."

2) "Qastle represents the first time that post-quantum cryptography (PQC) and quantum random number generation (QRNG) are combined in a hot wallet built for the mainstream."

Based on these statements, I assume that this wallet will rely on eFlux-Q service, operated by Quantum eMotion, to deliver entropy generated by their cutting-edge QRNG to Qastle.


Qastle beta testing has already concluded.

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October 21, 2025, 01:21:06 PM
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Wasn't blockchain.com's wallet and most other web wallets secured by a quantum resistant encryption algorithm (AES?).

It'd be good if there is a fully quantum proof crypto wallet but Shor's algorithm still exists. Unless this wallet bans address reuse, it's a false sense of security (maybe actively discouraging address reuse is effective too - ie tell users when they've sent funds to an address they've already used and ask if they want to forward it to one they haven't).
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October 21, 2025, 01:50:14 PM
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What we need is a bitcoin improvement proposal that will tackle vulnerable bitcoins that their public keys are exposed.

If you do not reuse bitcoin address after sending coins from it, your bitcoin will not be affected with quantum computers. This wallet with premium subscription is useless for me.

Wasn't blockchain.com's wallet and most other web wallets secured by a quantum resistant encryption algorithm (AES?).
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October 21, 2025, 06:45:12 PM
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What do I have a bad feeling about this particular wallet? I don't seem to find any obvious technical related flaw yet but based on the structure of this wallet I don't think it's really safe. Firstly quantum attacks aren't really a big thing yet so peacefully using your open source wallets like Electrum bus still very much safe. Secondly how do they plan to charge those that probably don't pay after the first month?
Are they offering a cloud storage for keys and seed? If yes then it's basically a bigger NO. I'll fancy them better if quantum attacks become a major issue generally. Anyways thumbs up for the info.

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October 21, 2025, 09:40:43 PM
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https://www.blockchain.com/security
https://www.qusecure.com/aes-256-is-quantum-resistant-rsa-is-not/

What do I have a bad feeling about this particular wallet? I don't seem to find any obvious technical related flaw yet but based on the structure of this wallet I don't think it's really safe. Firstly quantum attacks aren't really a big thing yet so peacefully using your open source wallets like Electrum bus still very much safe. Secondly how do they plan to charge those that probably don't pay after the first month?
Are they offering a cloud storage for keys and seed? If yes then it's basically a bigger NO. I'll fancy them better if quantum attacks become a major issue generally. Anyways thumbs up for the info.

Quantum attacks will likely be a cascade and won't be that noticeable until funds are gone from people (unless they're only owned by ethical companies with ethical people in charge).

Web wallets used to be the most vulnerable to attacks and I don't think that's changed. The uneasy feeling might because it seems gimmicky or because it's new.

Maybe they'll do like trustedcoin and take payment in advance or pay themselves if you ever try to spend funds. I imagine once you've paid the first $8, that's probably a good contribution to their hosting fees.
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October 22, 2025, 08:23:21 AM
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Quote from: quantumemotion.com/press-release/101/krown-technologies
Unlike any wallet before it, Qastle is universally available-on iPhone, Android, tablets, browser extensions, laptops, desktops, and virtually every platform where digital assets are stored and transacted.

It's bold claim. I would be surprised if their wallet app also support device that use RISC-V.

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Qastle represents the first time that post-quantum cryptography (PQC) and quantum random number generation (QRNG) are combined in a hot wallet built for the mainstream.

I don't see the urgency of using QRNG when current hacker doesn't seem able to crack CSPRNG.

Quote from: quantumemotion.com/press-release/101/krown-technologies
James Stephens, Founder & CEO of Krown Technologies, said:

"Qastle isn't just another wallet-it's the dawn of a new era in blockchain security. On November 1st, the world will see what true quantum protection looks like, and it will be available in everyone's pocket, on every device they own."

True protection against quantum computer/QC isn't possible unless the coin already use QC-resistant cryptography.

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October 22, 2025, 08:34:35 AM
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What do I have a bad feeling about this particular wallet? I don't seem to find any obvious technical related flaw yet but based on the structure of this wallet I don't think it's really safe. Firstly quantum attacks aren't really a big thing yet so peacefully using your open source wallets like Electrum bus still very much safe. Secondly how do they plan to charge those that probably don't pay after the first month?
Are they offering a cloud storage for keys and seed? If yes then it's basically a bigger NO. I'll fancy them better if quantum attacks become a major issue generally. Anyways thumbs up for the info.

The breakthrough here is Quantum eMotion's cutting-edge QRNG chip, which generates true quantum randomness using the electron tunneling effect, rather than the wallet itself.


This chip has the wide range of applications in areas that demand unprecedented security, such as the key generation, communications, authentication, to name just a few.

This is the real technological breakthrough that could also be applied to the architecture of any hardware wallet. I believe that in the near future, we'll see this integrated into the most advanced HW.

Currently, they are offering QRNG capabilities as the service, and Krown Technologies implemented this service into their product. I think this is the crucial step in testing the real power of QRNG.

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November 01, 2025, 08:38:41 AM
Last edit: November 01, 2025, 09:14:26 AM by satscraper
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Today, November 1st, 2025, marks the official public launch of Quastle wallet, which uses post‑quantum cryptography to protect private keys and defend against “store now, decrypt later” attacks.


The relevant apps are available for both iOS and Android and can be installed on the respective devices.

Switching to quantum-resistance for your stash requires importing your current wallet:


P.S. I must admit that Quantum Emotion products have truly set my imagination on fire. Can’t wait until they’re available in hardware wallets.


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