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October 24, 2025, 11:37:33 PM |
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Sorry if I'm dumb on this one, but what's the purpose of showing that one? Is that a sign that we can use these LLMs if we want to make profit in trading? I mean I saw that DeepSeek and Qwen 3 are in profit while the other 2 LLMs are at a loss, but what's the purpose of this website?
I think the purpose is pretty straight forward They are trying to test the available LLMs using a more challenging bench market that is more like a real life one such as a real market which is unpredictable and always dynamic. At the end of the testing, we will be able to tell which LLM makes better decisions, and perhaps it could be mostly used for people who like to analyze markets with the help of AI. Deepseek and Qwen3 Max still doing so well.
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I was just about to post this and had to check. Turns out I'm late by several days despite knowing about the AI trading challenges only hours after it went live. That's by the way. I love the fact that this challenge has provided plenty of insights into one of the questions that was constantly being asked in this board. As for the current progress:  It turns out OpenAI best model rn — GPT-5, is a very shitty trader and it has been heavily underperformed vs other ai models by a large margin.
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October 26, 2025, 12:47:36 PM |
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To date, the best results have been achieved AI Qwen3 Max, which today closed a long position at $112,250, which was opened at a price of $107,993 and received a profit of $8,176 for this trade. After that, Qwen3 Max reopened the long with a take profit of $114,608. 
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October 26, 2025, 03:55:30 PM |
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I have heard about and seen some of those things on YouTube, but I haven't personally tried using any of them. However, it seems influencers use them extensively because they truly benefit from them in creating their content.
But when it comes to using them for AI trading, I don't know how they manage that. Although, in my personal view and opinion, I do not believe that anyone can become a profitable trader simply by using those tools.
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Although, in my personal view and opinion, I do not believe that anyone can become a profitable trader simply by using those tools.
Yeah, in the past we have seen lots of trading bots has been described and promoted across the trading discussion sub itself, but I not seeing anyone announcing themselves that they had become millionaire just because of those trading bots in verifiable way. From this, I need to conclude that these trading bots are not consistently making profit but seasonally. In the long life cycle of trading bots, now they are getting another round of life just because of AI, yeah, this is how I do see those new AI based trading bots. it seems influencers use them extensively because they truly benefit from them in creating their content.
Yeah, those who are all promoting trading bots are NOT real users of them. But the naïve traders are getting trapped by them because they believe into what they are seeing rather than filtering out by due diligence.
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October 27, 2025, 01:50:00 AM |
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To date, the best results have been achieved AI Qwen3 Max, which today closed a long position at $112,250, which was opened at a price of $107,993 and received a profit of $8,176 for this trade. After that, Qwen3 Max reopened the long with a take profit of $114,608. https://i.ibb.co/YTZ5BC30/23.jpgI just look at now, Wen3 and Deepseek are already unstoppable! Given the market is pumping now.. I realized there could be some individuals who already copy-trading these AI models now. Which already has more than 100% return in just a matter of days! But on the other hand, GPT 5 and Gemini have already lost more than 50%  
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I saw this post in X, where there's a fully autonomous AI model that trades. And each of them has a different performance; you can see history like previous positions, current positions, profits, losses, etc. nof1.ai is the website. It's like Arena of A.I. Models, where they fight each other to earn good profits. GPT 5 right now has already lost 65%, Deepseek is already up with 7.84%. So question is, do you think this is the future in trading bots or any kind of trading platform that does not need any human intervention?  That’s pretty interesting indeed it really feels like the next big step for trading tech. Instead of humans programming set strategies, these AIs are actually learning, adapting, and competing against each other in real time. It’s almost like watching digital traders with their own personalities and style with some aggressive, some conservative, all trying to outperform the rest. If this kind of system keeps improving, I can definitely see it becoming a major part of how trading works in the future. But not in the Phase where human intervention isn't totally needed. As someone who know trading parameters, we still need to react on such suprise news or unforseen events like example Trump sudden announced of Tarrif, AI can't operate that or take into consideration.
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Yes, AI trading bots are the future of trading, which means that all the human day traders will have to find another job or side hustle.
Isn't that actually good for traders? It means that traders will have their work made easier, as they only need to use the right strategy to generate results. In the future, its development will advance further, but I still doubt that this technology will increase traders' income because the bot still needs to be operated properly by humans.
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In the future, its development will advance further, but I still doubt that this technology will increase traders' income because the bot still needs to be operated properly by humans.
You mean about configurations of a bot like setting up the parameters that will finetune the performance of a bot? Because, bots are for auto mode purpose so again the requirement of operating/intervening may not serve the purpose, right? I agree, we cannot rely on a bot 100%, which means, we need to check/monitor time to time and finetuning up the strategies will ensure the better performance in long run. In the past, I had the experience of operating trading bot but the final results were not as much as I actually looked for. It means, I got mixed results; overall at some point, I concluded that manual trading would be somehow better because where everything would be under my control so I stopped bot trading but eventually on later stages I quit my trading itself because of continuous losses. I was unable to beat the fluctuation of bitcoin market.
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October 27, 2025, 05:00:00 PM |
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Isn't that actually good for traders? It means that traders will have their work made easier, as they only need to use the right strategy to generate results.
Well, in principle, this cannot happen in futures trading, so that all traders get a profit. So regardless of whether you use AI or not, in order for someone to make a profit, it is necessary for someone to make a loss.
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Manual trading is still the best because you have full control on the amount of risk you are willing to take on your trade depending on the situation.
But people prefer the practicality of using premium AI for trading - as many on social media share stories of their experiences with trading using AI. But I myself until now am still manual to trade. Those 55% and 65% losses of some AI clearly that some model will give you a massive losses which you can avoid if you do manual trade and set a perimeter on how much you can lose on your trade.
Like GPT 5, it is already lagging behind other competitors, even I have subscribed but still the information is better than other free AI. Although I’m not active on trading anymore due to I prefer spot holding but I will definitely not use AI on my trade.
Same, not interested at all in trading with AI.
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Although I’m not active on trading anymore due to I prefer spot holding but I will definitely not use AI on my trade.
Same, not interested at all in trading with AI. On the contrary, I plan to allocate a small budget and try to open orders at the same levels as the leaders of the DEEPSEEK and QWEN3 trading competitions. And it's very easy to do, because on the website hnof1.ai the opening price, as well as the take profit and stop loss are presented.
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Results are in with the end of season 1...
The organizers of the competition promise to launch the next season at the end of November, which will take into account the mistakes made by AI during the first season of the competition. For those who have been following the course of the competition, it will be interesting to see how effective these improvements will be.
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I saw this post in X, where there's a fully autonomous AI model that trades. And each of them has a different performance; you can see history like previous positions, current positions, profits, losses, etc.
nof1.ai is the website.
It's like Arena of A.I. Models, where they fight each other to earn good profits. GPT 5 right now has already lost 65%, Deepseek is already up with 7.84%.
So question is, do you think this is the future in trading bots or any kind of trading platform that does not need any human intervention?
Future belongs to AI, Although I visited the site, it was very simple, but I did not find any solid information about what they claim is true, but if you are sharing it then okay I will admit it. Now, qwex is winning, and what they are trading, when they are buying, at which platform, when did they start, they must clear this information on the very same page. Anyway, this is really a great thing to see, thanks for sharing, I am shocked to see DeepSeek in winning line, and gpt too low haha, because conversation-wise gpt is the best and even from the search-wise. I mainly use it, but Deepseek did not provide the results I wanted. Anyway, the future belongs to this, learn them before they learn us, I also learned that now in cyber world we are nearly going to see Ai virsus they can evolve on their own haha.
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At first, I can't believe that this can be real. But if they're already testing and the AI models are making real money to the owners of it, they have to let that out and help the people trade it for us.  This is what people is hyped about, and a real thing about replacing the jobs of many including the traders themselves. So, if this automation favors each individual, I guess that we're all going to be AI trading operators soon.
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It looks like the Final Result of the AI Trading competition was won by Qwen3 based on the previously shared data, even though Qwen3 was initially in second place. I didn’t expect the newest AI to have such advanced capabilities. At first I thought Deepseek would win the competition, especially since it went viral immediately after its launch. According to Coinglass data, Gemini executed 276 trades, which, if compared to a person, shows very high trading aggression. Meanwhile, Claude had the fewest trades with only 46. I actually want to see all that trading activity in real time, but I still don’t know how to do it.
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The organizers of the competition promise to launch the next season at the end of November, which will take into account the mistakes made by AI during the first season of the competition. For those who have been following the course of the competition, it will be interesting to see how effective these improvements will be.
The count-down is actually on, season 1.5 is less than 7 days away from launching. I am so looking forward to it after an Epic first round.
I actually want to see all that trading activity in real time, but I still don’t know how to do it.
It was possible to see the trading activity and open positions when the first round was still live. Most of the time, the Models were opening long positions, which is why there was a huge drop in the profits for (deepseek and Qwen) towards the end of the round. At the time, the market started dumping and most of the trades hit stop losses.
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It looks like the Final Result of the AI Trading competition was won by Qwen3 based on the previously shared data, even though Qwen3 was initially in second place. I didn’t expect the newest AI to have such advanced capabilities. At first I thought Deepseek would win the competition, especially since it went viral immediately after its launch. According to Coinglass data, Gemini executed 276 trades, which, if compared to a person, shows very high trading aggression. Meanwhile, Claude had the fewest trades with only 46. I actually want to see all that trading activity in real time, but I still don’t know how to do it.
The ability of the Ai Qwen Model 3 is indeed undoubted for the crypto ecosystem, because it does have speed, accuracy, and financial reasoning and precise calculations.  Many Chat AI now use the Qwen Model 3 as a development of crypto Chat Ai like the ChatAi Askjune.ai I am using now, Developing the Qwen Model 3 as a Crypto Ai Expert with a lot of improvements for Crypto purposes. https://askjune.ai/While Deepseek R1 is more powerful for Coding and Reasoning, it is not very powerful for crypto analysis, trading and such. Data based on real-money trading AI competition (Alpha Arena):⭐ 1. Qwen 3 — Performance champion- Scored a profit of around +22%- Stable, fast, efficient inference - Suitable for financial reasoning & calculation ⭐ Sec. 2. DeepSeek- Return around +5%- Powerful mathematical analysis - Cheap & very efficient to use as a custom trading bot https://nypost.com/2025/11/08/business/ai-models-given-10k-to-compete-in-first-of-its-kind-crypto-trading-competition-and-most-crashed-and-burned
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