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January 12, 2026, 11:14:31 PM
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You are making a wrong assumption here, the assumption that US wants to work with anyone. They categorize the world into two groups: clients and enemies. There is no third option, there are no allies, no trade partners, no friends,... You are either a client (aka a slave) or an enemy. And as they say over in the US "It may be dangerous to be US enemy, but to be US friend is fatal".

If they were worried about human rights and liberties and democracies and all that crap they keep repeating, their own governance wouldn't be a neo dictatorship and their closest allies clients wouldn't have been the biggest dictators on earth like the Saudis and the genocidal maniacs like the Zionists.

The Venezuelan government has made economic mistakes that have made things tough for the people but those mistakes were made because Venezuela has been under years of US sponsored economic terrorism. Otherwise don't the guys who only blame Maduro think if Venezuela as the country with literary largest oil reserves could freely sell its oil to anyone they wanted (like 5-10 million barrels per day), they would be able to fix their economy? So why couldn't they sell it all these years? The answer is US sanctions and the rule of Petrodollar that prevented any money to get to them even if they managed to sell any tiny amount of oil.

Next in line are Greenland and Canada...

I understand your point perfectly.....but the reality is..not every country is an enemy of the US (or a slave)..the truth is, most countries disagree with the US majority of the time.. countries like..(France..Mexico and india)..but that doesn't mean that they are enemies ☺️..
And talking about Venezuela..i don't think their problems are just from sanctions alone..the government there actually printed a lot of money (maybe too much)..they also controlled prices badly and let corruption run wild..and this had already started before the worst sanctions...

Also referring to US as 'dictatorship' goes too far...even if the democracy of America has problems...so I think the main issue is..yes, both things are actually true..The United States sanctions made Venezuela really worse and also the leaders in Venezuela made bad choices..so you can't really blame everything on one side only..

What I'm saying is that..it's very good and ok to frown at unfairness..but it really throws every one off when you're cynical and saying "Everything is terrible... everyone lies)....a good criticism needs facts and fairness..(not just anger or rage)...it makes you sound like someone who already have a fixed mindset on what they want to believe..and just want reasons to confirm it...
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January 13, 2026, 09:22:47 AM
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So like I said, the US, in your POV may be wrong, but Maduro was not a good leader.

There is no justification for what Maduro did, he is not a good leader, he made many mistakes, but that does not mean that what Trump did was right either, what should happen is a massive revolution, like what happened in other countries, the Venezuelan people themselves should bring him down and judge him, not the president of another country who acts like he is a police officer of justice. I bet after this, the US and Maduro's people, who sold him out, will profit from all this, from the oil they will manage together.

I agree that he is not a good leader, because a leader should not let the country's situation get so bad. But in my opinion, Maduro has only made one mistake in his political career. That is he did not listen to the US, and did not allow them to continue stealing Venezuela oil. For this reason, the US has sought every means to sabotage the country economy, push its people to the brink of despair to incite their anger and place all the blame on Maduro.

Would you dare to bet with me? Whoever becomes president, even if elected by the people, but if the new Venezuelan government will not bow down to the US. They will share the same fate as Maduro, and the lives of the people will never improve.

What is happening in Venezuela or Iran is simply a consequence of resisting American imperialism and a unipolar world.

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January 13, 2026, 11:18:54 AM
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But in my opinion, Maduro has only made one mistake in his political career. That is he did not listen to the US, and did not allow them to continue stealing Venezuela oil.

C'mon! We have to stop living in a bubble. We have to see things as they are and stop taking sides.
Now, I want you to just take the US out of this equation for a minute. Just look at the government or administration of Maduro without involving the US. Do you truly believe his only mistake was not obeying the US?
His government was a mess. He ran the country to the ground. Take a look at the years before sanctions hit, look at the inflation rate, look at how the GDP dropped, unemployment. Then we talk about how he murdered people who opposed him. Many Venezuelans ran out of the country. Most went to Argentina, which was not a working country either, but they were safe there.
Being a horrible leader was his biggest mistake. Being horrible made it easy for his people to turn against him. The country was being run to the ground. The corruption was at an all-time high.

We need to stop this thing where we make anybody who opposes the US a hero. He was not a hero. He was a man who killed his people and made the country worse than he saw it. Most people who talk about Maduro don't even know how things are in the country. All they care about is that the US did something wrong by kidnapping a country's president, so for that, they paint the president a hero for standing up to oppression.

Iran is another example of this. I see people who talk about how the protests are CIA and Israeli-sponsored. Why do you guys believe the people of a country cannot simply get tired of being treated like shit by their government and want to rise up? This narrative won't take root if the government of Iran were an America-loving government. The regime has been awful, and people will always reach a breaking point.

Now I'm not saying the US and Israel cannot exploit these situations, but my point is, stop looking at the leaders of these countries like heroes when they are, in fact, villains too. The US is not the only villain in the story. The governments of these countries have been horrible.
So if the US goes to war with North Korea, you guys will paint Kim Jong Un as a hero? Is that what we've come to?

If you read my previous tweets on this thread. I mentioned the leaders of countries like Tanzania and Nigeria.
We saw how people were murdered in the last election in Tanzania. The other presidential aspirant where either murdered or imprisoned, and after the election, when protests broke out, thousands were murdered.
When you look at Nigeria, terrorism has increased in some regions. Inflation and unemployment are at an ATH. So if tomorrow, the governments of these countries refuse to give the US what they want and the US takes drastic measures as they always do, are we going to come here and act like these country leaders are heroes? hell No. 
You can call out the US for what they are, and at the same time call out the world leaders for what they are.


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January 14, 2026, 04:59:05 PM
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Would you dare to bet with me? Whoever becomes president, even if elected by the people, but if the new Venezuelan government will not bow down to the US. They will share the same fate as Maduro, and the lives of the people will never improve.
Everyone must bow down to the US to some extent, as this includes respecting international laws, sanctions and many other things. Those that do not cooperate nicely end up as shitholes, look at Venezuela, look at Cuba, North Korea, Iran. Great places to live in?  Roll Eyes

What is happening in Venezuela or Iran is simply a consequence of resisting American imperialism and a unipolar world.
Complete nonsense once again, both of those countries are complete shitholes and whoever claims otherwise is lying or malicious. They do need a dose of freedom, and a large one. You are aware that if public or economic perception changes about certain things such as war and the type of warfare, that the US can destroy both countries within days? They are not able to resist anything, don't imagine some bullshit from movies of bring up some wrong examples such as Afghanistan where the goal was not the destruction. The US is being extremely restrained compared to the abuses that both countries are doing, to their own people and to the laws. Even ignoring these transgressions, Venezuela owns the US billions. I've said it before, the world is partially fucked up because weak people and countries are talking big (look at the idiots in the Baltic countries, countries which can be wiped out 100% without a single person remaining with 1 preemptive attack). One day the consequences of their stupidity will come back to haunt them, then they will scream fault and complain on the world stage. Do not talk big if you do not have a lot of power on the global stage, keep your mouth shut. Maduro was a weakling while he played the big man, and he went down like a weakling and a clown. The US operation was amazing, in the terms of the quality of it (we are not evaluating all other perspectives, legality and such).  

He ran the country to the ground.
Maduro was one of the stupidest people that was ever in charge of a country. With the reserves that Venezuela has it should be closer to Qatar and not an economic shithole. But hey, the people voted for him or so they say.  Roll Eyes


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January 14, 2026, 05:47:33 PM
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. But hey, the people voted for him or so they say.  Roll Eyes

Debatable. Did the people vote for him?

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January 14, 2026, 06:37:58 PM
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. But hey, the people voted for him or so they say.  Roll Eyes
Debatable. Did the people vote for him?
Perhaps you did not get the implication of sarcasm from the " Roll Eyes".  Tongue

You can't have a real vote when you live under oppression, not matter how much someone tries to make it look like it is a legitimate vote. It is not worth debating in general. Venezuelans mostly lived, or well still live, under an oppressive and impoverishing regime. From one side, even if you want to vote for a change you may be too scared to do it (we have not yet reached a point where people get actually punished for voting for someone). However, how corrupt regimes do it to avoid this violence is to simply rig the whole election all together. You seem less oppressive and violent this way, but the outcome is the same nevertheless. This is one special case where the population would definitely welcome some liberators, but as I have said even if the US would invade and take over completely that does not guarantee any lasting change or stability. That is the biggest problem with interventions, the corrupt system that was toppled often comes back under a new form and new leadership. Often it brings mostly violence and bloodshed and does not accomplish anything at all.

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January 14, 2026, 09:09:40 PM
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To be honest, this is a very strange post. The people of Venezuela are rejoicing, Venezuela is returning to a full life and the opportunity to live freely. No one will feed the people of Venezuela idiotic fairy tales while stealing the resources of Venezuela and the Venezuelan people. Who likes that?
 

Bitcoin has also rebounded, and today it is worth almost $98,000.

The article resembles some kind of manipulative, strange post with an unclear purpose, and it is self-moderated so that lovers of totalitarianism and criminal regimes cannot allow others to express alternative opinions! If I'm right, there's a high probability that my post will be deleted! Smiley

PS I also wish the people of Iran strength and courage to gain freedom and return to the civilized world!


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January 14, 2026, 09:38:00 PM
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Maduro was one of the stupidest people that was ever in charge of a country. With the reserves that Venezuela has it should be closer to Qatar and not an economic shithole. But hey, the people voted for him or so they say.  Roll Eyes

It's crazy that a country with so much reserve keeps having a decline in the amount of barrels it produces. The country was so shit that they couldn't produce oil as they used to. It would have been a different case if they produced the oil, but embezzled the money; instead, they couldn't produce the oil because of the level of corruption in the country.
It's insane that a country with the most proven oil reserves is not among the top 20 countries in oil production as of 2024.
Not to mention that they were busy paying back debts to China with the oil they produced.
Do I like the way he was removed from power? NO, but do I like that he was removed from power, absolute YES.
A man like him would not have willingly left that presidency. He would have found a way to remain in power, no matter how many people he killed or imprisoned, and he would have kept running the country to the ground.


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January 14, 2026, 11:13:16 PM
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It's crazy that a country with so much reserve keeps having a decline in the amount of barrels it produces.

Nothing crazy about that. Venezuela was build with US tech up to 1999.
From there on the Government took a dislike in the US and went into socialism around 2002, after the coup de etat.
From there getting parts for the US built refineries became next to impossible.
Also due to the US having almost a monopoly in oil producing technology. 

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It's crazy that a country with so much reserve keeps having a decline in the amount of barrels it produces.

Nothing crazy about that. Venezuela was build with US tech up to 1999.
From there on the Government took a dislike in the US and went into socialism around 2002, after the coup de etat.
From there getting parts for the US built refineries became next to impossible.
Also due to the US having almost a monopoly in oil producing technology. 
The main reasons Venezuela is having decreasing barrel output is because of government mismanagement and corruption, but sanctions is still part of the reasons. Sanctions can be one of the major reasons but it is disappointing that many countries in the world do not know how to run major infrastructures in their countries but depending on another country which is another reason.
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Do I like the way he was removed from power? NO, but do I like that he was removed from power, absolute YES.
A man like him would not have willingly left that presidency. He would have found a way to remain in power, no matter how many people he killed or imprisoned, and he would have kept running the country to the ground.
Well most certainly it is not the most optimal way to transition the power, but reality is difficult and brutal. We most often do not see optimal or utopian outcomes. It is clear that Maduro had no plan of leaving the power, and the standard pressure was not working. Getting rid of him was not in the interest of China and Russia, and the EU is just made of useless weaklings. Therefore, it is clear that the US was the only one who could really do something about this. Since sanctions were clearly not working, a solution like this was inevitable in my view. I did not expect it to happen right now, but did expect it eventually.

Nothing crazy about that. Venezuela was build with US tech up to 1999.
From there on the Government took a dislike in the US and went into socialism around 2002, after the coup de etat.
From there getting parts for the US built refineries became next to impossible.
Also due to the US having almost a monopoly in oil producing technology. 
Socialism is cancer and it always destroys everything. Only the dumbest and most dogmatic people believe or want socialism. We have seen countless examples of it failing and even when extreme amounts of richest are present in a country they still manage to fuck it up. As I have said, no matter what people feel -- some cooperation with the US is inevitable, whether because of technology, international law and trade or other things. Had those in charge done the right thing at the beginning of this century, Venezuela would be a relatively prospering country and not a poor shithole as a result of the work of the socialists. It is not too late to turn it around, but it is going to depend a lot on whether we can see a Bukele style cleanup of the old system or whether it will be a continuation of the same old just with new faces.

The main reasons Venezuela is having decreasing barrel output is because of government mismanagement and corruption, but sanctions is still part of the reasons. Sanctions can be one of the major reasons but it is disappointing that many countries in the world do not know how to run major infrastructures in their countries but depending on another country which is another reason.
It is better to have a joint operation that works, than to have a failing operation as in the case of Venezuela. You can only have prosperity with corruption if you are making a lot of money and have a very efficient operation going on. Maduro was stealing a lot and using it for corrupt interests at the same time while they were completely mismanaging their biggest operation. That leads to outcomes such as we can observe in the case of Venezuela.

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