Trump's desperate destabilizing wars. Invading Venezuela. Gold up. Bitcoin down.

[Danica22]

Let's "zoom out". How does the result of attack that the United States and Israel are currently doing change the Iran's relationship with China and Russia if it definitely shows that China and Russia won't bleed for Iran?

How will that look for other countries in Asia? They probably believe that China won't bleed for them as well, no?

Like the war between Russia and Ukraine. Iran, China, and North Korea have not publicly acknowledged or pledged support for Russia. But then, more evidence emerged suggesting that most of them were actually helping Russia in various ways.

Similarly, I think that Russia and China are also secretly helping Iran, they just don't openly admit it.

Plus people in X say that Iran's leaders are DEAD? Is that true?

At this point, it can be confirmed that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei died along with many other high-ranking officials following the US airstrike. Iran's state news agency, IRNA, also confirmed this and declared 40 days of national mourning.


https://english.khamenei.ir/news/12103/Announcement-of-the-Martyrdom-of-Grand-Ayatollah-Sayyid-Ali-Hosseini

[Wind_FURY]

Let's "zoom out". How does the result of attack that the United States and Israel are currently doing change the Iran's relationship with China and Russia if it definitely shows that China and Russia won't bleed for Iran?

How will that look for other countries in Asia? They probably believe that China won't bleed for them as well, no?

Like the war between Russia and Ukraine. Iran, China, and North Korea have not publicly acknowledged or pledged support for Russia. But then, more evidence emerged suggesting that most of them were actually helping Russia in various ways.

Similarly, I think that Russia and China are also secretly helping Iran, they just don't openly admit it.

Russia's aggression towards Ukraine is a different matter. It was Russia that attacked, and China probably has considered it an "internal matter" like their issue with Taiwan is an "internal matter".

But if there was a country that China would bleed for, it's Russia and probably North Korea.

Plus people in X say that Iran's leaders are DEAD? Is that true?

At this point, it can be confirmed that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei died along with many other high-ranking officials following the US airstrike. Iran's state news agency, IRNA, also confirmed this and declared 40 days of national mourning.


https://english.khamenei.ir/news/12103/Announcement-of-the-Martyrdom-of-Grand-Ayatollah-Sayyid-Ali-Hosseini

OK, then the United States' aggression against Iran might last for only one month and end with a "regime change".

[imthegreat]

In general, Clarity Act is exactly what the crypto needs now. It's a pity they're in no hurry to accept it. Much has already been written about fear and uncertainty, and it is obvious that at a time like this, no one wants to be the first in the minefield after the cascading liquidations on October 10.
This is reflected in the volatility on the part of the whales, comments are unnecessary:



Severe volume subsidence.
And as I understand it, the decrease in online activity is the same.
The price may be low now compared to what it was, but what difference does it make, because what matters is what happens next. I'll buy BTC for all the money, looking back, and suddenly there's another drop to 20k ahead...
In a word, clarity is needed. Preferably with a positive attitude, of course. Because now Bitcoin is already being compared only with a high-risk asset, and this is not the most enviable position for such a technology. I laughed when I read about PolyMarket and BTC price predictions for 5 minutes in advance. Well, okay, if there is such a thing, then people need it.

[Danica22]

OK, then the United States' aggression against Iran might last for only one month and end with a "regime change".

This is what the US and Israel want, a swift end to the war and regime change in Iran. However, given the solidarity and willingness to sacrifice of the Iranian army and people, I doubt they will achieve that goal.

Today, the conflict escalated further as Iran simultaneously attacked all US military facilities in the region. Meanwhile, Hezbollah has also joined the conflict and is targeting Israel. It would be surprising if the United States achieved its goals within that timeframe.

[Oluwa-btc]

Regarding the American regime and the crimes they have committed against the world. Its no longer a secret, and I do not think there's anyone left who does not know about it.
Are you from a country that is an ally of the US? And your government is colluding with the US to bully the whole world, and that is why you feel grateful to Trump and US?

https://newrepublic.com/post/206023/how-often-donald-trump-mentioned-epstein-files

The Donald Trump regime has made it visible enough for every dull, dumb and brain dead African who supports them blindly like the slave that they're and have been all the past years by the previous presidents and whatever they do and hide in secret.

Ally?! Just another another Nigerian Trumper you know lol, I have said a billion times how brain rot likewise dead they're and have refused to learn from history or do due diligence. His government is directly puppeting for the empire at the same time, squander funds ment for development in his country.
The most amusing thing is how they lambast and lash out on their president but blindly supports trump who is no different from their slobheaded president.

[Satofan44]

Let's "zoom out". How does the result of attack that the United States and Israel are currently doing change the Iran's relationship with China and Russia if it definitely shows that China and Russia won't bleed for Iran?

Russia can't, it is too strained as it is in its own war therefore that only leaves China. But what do you mean "won't bleed"? Do you think that if someone is your ally that means that they have to defend you in a military way? That is not how those work.

How will that look for other countries in Asia? They probably believe that China won't bleed for them as well, no?

China is winning through money, not through security guarantees.

Plus people in X say that Iran's leaders are DEAD? Is that true?

Yes. Initially the side claimed that it was psyops propaganda but it turned out to be true as claimed.

Similarly, I think that Russia and China are also secretly helping Iran, they just don't openly admit it.

They are helping, that is what allies do but it seems that some people are confused as to what this means. They are not going to send their military over there and start a WW3 over this situation, that would be foolish and given their current positions they would end up losing. China is especially long-term oriented and strategic thinking, they will strike at Taiwan only when they are right. They will never involve themselves in short-term disputes that could risk these things. Help is doing through knowledge, trade, and other means of assistance.

This is what the US and Israel want, a swift end to the war and regime change in Iran. However, given the solidarity and willingness to sacrifice of the Iranian army and people, I doubt they will achieve that goal.

Idiots that are deluded and under propaganda are willing to defend their propagandist. Do not bring it up as if it were some sort of benefit or something to be proud of. In this particular case, it is a sign of stupidity and delusions.

Today, the conflict escalated further as Iran simultaneously attacked all US military facilities in the region. Meanwhile, Hezbollah has also joined the conflict and is targeting Israel. It would be surprising if the United States achieved its goals within that timeframe.

A regime change under a month is not possible without the people of the country. The country is simply too large and too populated.

The Donald Trump regime has made it visible enough for every dull, dumb and brain dead African who supports them blindly like the slave that they're and have been all the past years by the previous presidents and whatever they do and hide in secret.

Ally?! Just another another Nigerian Trumper you know lol, I have said a billion times how brain rot likewise dead they're and have refused to learn from history or do due diligence. His government is directly puppeting for the empire at the same time, squander funds ment for development in his country.
The most amusing thing is how they lambast and lash out on their president but blindly supports trump who is no different from their slobheaded president.

The irony of this post is that every single African leader is more corrupt than any US president, let alone Trump. Keep drinking the party kool-aid and believing that the situation in the most developed country in the world is better than in your own shitholes.

[Wind_FURY]

Let's "zoom out". How does the result of attack that the United States and Israel are currently doing change the Iran's relationship with China and Russia if it definitely shows that China and Russia won't bleed for Iran?

Russia can't, it is too strained as it is in its own war therefore that only leaves China. But what do you mean "won't bleed"? Do you think that if someone is your ally that means that they have to defend you in a military way? That is not how those work.

I'm not debating "how those work", but OK, then China won't bleed for Iran. There's nothing wrong with that if their relationship is merely transactional.

How will that look for other countries in Asia? They probably believe that China won't bleed for them as well, no?

China is winning through money, not through security guarantees.

 👍

Transactional relationship, that's OK.

Plus people in X say that Iran's leaders are DEAD? Is that true?

Yes. Initially the side claimed that it was psyops propaganda but it turned out to be true as claimed.

He threatened the United States for DECADES, and he died during the FIRST DAY of the war.

 

[suzanne5223]

Let's "zoom out". How does the result of attack that the United States and Israel are currently doing change the Iran's relationship with China and Russia if it definitely shows that China and Russia won't bleed for Iran?

How will that look for other countries in Asia? They probably believe that China won't bleed for them as well, no?

Like the war between Russia and Ukraine. Iran, China, and North Korea have not publicly acknowledged or pledged support for Russia. But then, more evidence emerged suggesting that most of them were actually helping Russia in various ways.

Similarly, I think that Russia and China are also secretly helping Iran, they just don't openly admit it.

Russia's aggression towards Ukraine is a different matter. It was Russia that attacked, and China probably has considered it an "internal matter" like their issue with Taiwan is an "internal matter".

But if there was a country that China would bleed for, it's Russia and probably North Korea.

Agreed, and if we look into the major reason behind the conflict, it's not the same thing. For the record, it was because of stabilizing Iran's nuclear power, border security concerns (an example is what is happening in Hamas), failed diplomacy (in and out of the geographical area. An example is the slaughter of Irainian citizen), regime change, and weakening Iranian influence (whose purpose was to end the Islamic Republic's rule).
Based on my understanding of Putin's model of govern he also doesn't like the act of the Islamic Republic's rule, so i am not surprised that Russia, China, and North Korea don't bleed for Iran especially when they attack theres an information that they attack Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria.

At this point, it can be confirmed that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei died along with many other high-ranking officials following the US airstrike. Iran's state news agency, IRNA, also confirmed this and declared 40 days of national mourning.

Thank you for confirming this because the US president never came out to make a public statement about it, and i hope the regime change will provide the people of Iran the needed solution.

[SquallLeonhart]

To be fair you do not have to like a leader, to be against how he is killed. Don't get me wrong, he was a person who killed tens of thousands of his own people and had more jailed, so it's obvious that this dude was a horrible person. And when in history we had nations go to war to topple a dictator, we still celebrate it. However, the problem is that, when USA eat Hitler for example (and other Europeans helped) the goal wasn't to make Germany their puppet.

USA isn't doing this to help women and people of Iran, if they really wanted to, look at Saudi Arabia, that's a kingdom that kills anyone who questions the king, and they are basically keeping women on leashes, and yet USA doesn't care, there is literally ZERO difference between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Only difference? One is ally of USA and the other is not. So yeah, USA is not doing this for good of Iranians, they are doing it because they want oil out of Iran, and whatever else they can get their hands on.

[STT]

I dont think the BTC sell is war related or that the blockchain would care too much about which bearded guy is sitting where exactly.   No great victory was achieved, nothing much has changed and I cant see the Bitcoin perspective is altered by new people here or there.
   Meanwhile Dollars are being spent wasted on warheads to kill various people for very likely no productive gain so its debt and a weaker dollar which is the same story as forever now.  No change there then.

If I was to look for weakness I think it'd be from politics again but not in the usual overspend but the unfortunate backing of politics for BTC.  Has that been of great help to actual value achieved, apparently not so much and not enough to match the price gain hence the pullback would be justified in discovering a lower price.

[abhiseshakana]

I dont think the BTC sell is war related or that the blockchain would care too much about which bearded guy is sitting where exactly.   No great victory was achieved, nothing much has changed and I cant see the Bitcoin perspective is altered by new people here or there.
   Meanwhile Dollars are being spent wasted on warheads to kill various people for very likely no productive gain so its debt and a weaker dollar which is the same story as forever now.  No change there then.

If I was to look for weakness I think it'd be from politics again but not in the usual overspend but the unfortunate backing of politics for BTC.  Has that been of great help to actual value achieved, apparently not so much and not enough to match the price gain hence the pullback would be justified in discovering a lower price.

Agree that blockchain neutral and bitcoin doesn't care what happen with politic but investors do, do not forget price shaped by humans. When global conflict escalated, investor panic, risk off sentiment increase which caused liquidity tightening because everybody seeking cash and first choice usually BTC to sold, we can said global geopolitical conflict could have inderect impact to bitcoin price. On this situation, USD usually strengthens, US treasuies increase, and high risk asset decline.

At the meantime bitcoin still treated as high risk asset not safe haven. I think this becayse  BTC is still held by many speculative investors, so in the early stage of conflic, bitcoinn often falls first due to crypto market more sensitive with outflow. Beside that bitcoin often drag down not because its fail but simply because global system still USD based, when USD strengthened usually alternative asset temporarily depressed. But all depend how long conflict ongoing, if its happen in medium to long duration, investor will see bitcoin as safe haven especially when they loose confidence in fiat.

[aoluain]

We are seeing the chaos the US regime is creating everywhere, geographically speaking. From its close neighbors like Canada, Greenland and Mexico to farther countries like Russia and China.
The economic war, part of which is the tariff war, is part of that chaos too. And to complete that plan they have been trying to wage an Energy War against the world as well. And it became apparent the day the US regime blew up the Nord Stream pipeline to cripple the European production and economy.

. . . and we all pay for the wants, greed, and wrecklessness of a few who view themselves as lords and masters over
us all and particularly those THEY view as enemies and who are targets to enhance their own position.

This war is all about a state who views themselves as NEW Imperialists and who finally after 30 years has worked itself into
a position it has reached today. The biggest part of that plan to be able to wage war on Iran was having Trump in
office and having damaging collarerol against him. Trump is the weak link in all this. Israel orders "jump", Trump
replies "How high".

They copuld never achieve this previously because Big Brother would always slap them back into place, but little
brother has been kniving and played the long game to get what they want. They are now exactly where they want
to be and have another 3 years _minimum to achieve their goals.

They dont care what chaos follows economically for the rest of the world as long as their wants are met.

[Satofan44]

I'm not debating "how those work", but OK, then China won't bleed for Iran. There's nothing wrong with that if their relationship is merely transactional.

Because they would be crazy to do so, it simply does not make sense economically nor based on their geopolitical plans. As if Trump would bleed for some pest-infested shithole like Spain, he'd prefer to leave NATO completely than defend that turd of a country. That is how these things work, they are usually only willing to take sacrifices for someone else if the overall gain is greater. Everything else is suicide.

China is winning through money, not through security guarantees.

👍
Transactional relationship, that's OK.

Yes, there is no problem with this now. The problem with this will start later. If China becomes advanced enough and the leading economic and military superpower, they will behave exactly like the USA -- just worse given different values, constraints and so forth. At that point, there will be nobody to stop them.

He threatened the United States for DECADES, and he died during the FIRST DAY of the war.

I know right, similar to Maduro. There's even an old video of him baiting the USA telling them to come for him if they want him.  

At this point, it can be confirmed that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei died along with many other high-ranking officials following the US airstrike. Iran's state news agency, IRNA, also confirmed this and declared 40 days of national mourning.

Thank you for confirming this because the US president never came out to make a public statement about it, and i hope the regime change will provide the people of Iran the needed solution.

The death of the Ayatollah does not necessarily mean that there will be a significant regime change, one is not related to the other. It could start the process, but often nothing significant changes. You get another person who is the same or worse than their predecessor. A proper regime change towards a better leader requires the cooperation of the people living there. Everything else will not work out or hold out long term.

The biggest part of that plan to be able to wage war on Iran was having Trump in
office and having damaging collarerol against him. Trump is the weak link in all this. Israel orders "jump", Trump
replies "How high".

You are being played by propagandists as easily as you could be. Israel does not control Trump in any specific way. Israel controls both major parties in the USA. Don't worry though, whatever country you are from -- eventually Israel will win against you too.