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October 23, 2025, 03:49:50 PM
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One thing about gambling is that, you can’t control how much you’ll win, but you can control how much you’ll lose. The reason most gamblers lose more than they win is because they pay less attention to their bankroll, yeah they lack bankroll management, they don’t even know a thing about risk management, it’s always about how much they stand to win, sometimes they ignore the odds and even when they lose, they don’t reflect on the reason why they lost in the first place, they’re already trying again, and they continue in this loop until they’re completely drained.
You know some gamblers are very greedy and for that reason they pay less attention to their continued losing, many gamblers are just after the amount they are ro win so bankrol management is not that important to them, but as a gambler, I think staying safe without being held hostage by addiction, we should as a matter of urgency make sure we monitor the rate at which we keep chasing loss, there something I have to say, in gambling, losing is not something we can shy away from, so we must think about that, if it keeps occuring then we should pull a bit and return later I think that will make us to get the brain relax and get in again, going on and on as we keep losing will amount to what we already know which is not healthy for any gambler.

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October 23, 2025, 03:54:06 PM
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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

There is more for us in defining why we are gambling and what we wanted from it, this will now determine the reaction we are going to made whenever we are in either of these situations, regardless of if we are losing or winning, it doesn't matter, all that is of concern is for us to have the necessary opportunities of gambling and making fun in it, without taking it too serious whether we win or lose doesn't matter.

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October 23, 2025, 04:00:33 PM
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I agree, extending the number of bets increases the chance of winning the bet but it doesn't guarantee more money either so we should never dream or rather expect a win, if it happens, it will and just enjoy it at that time, because we can't plan those things. Always expecting the worse can help with the disappointment but reality is we all are connected with emotions that get carried away from what we are intend to.

Anyway we should know our limits, when we are losing we need to learn when to stop.

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October 23, 2025, 04:30:03 PM
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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?
When cryptocurrency investors become so greedy  to the point that they doint expect any thing less than profits, at rhag point their will start losing it and stand a chance to end up being demotivated, most of those that have such misconception about cryptocurrency investment also take crypto to be a get rich quick scheme.

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October 23, 2025, 05:05:08 PM
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So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

I always hope to win, but we can't be sure whether we will actually win or not... So I don't like to make any premature conclusions or plans. It's on us to place the bet and wait for the end of the game... I learned a long time ago that until the referee blows the final whistle, anything is possible... sometimes big changes happen in the last few minutes. Sometimes those changes can be good for us, and many times they simply ruin our bets.

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October 23, 2025, 05:19:36 PM
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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

Some of your sentence is too big for me to grasp but yea, everyone gamble to hit a very big amount of money which is profit but we know it is not something that can just happen or come to pass without loss. Loss is something no gambler can run away from despite how careful and good they think or claim to be because when it is not your luck it is not your luck. And sometimes no matter how careful you manage your loss or your money, if you don't have luck that money will definitely be exhausted so it's actually not about been careful but also how lucky you are. I don't expect loss rather I expect win but I do make loss because I can not overcome it all time.

 
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October 23, 2025, 05:26:33 PM
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So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?
If some one gamble only with the plan of winning, the gambler has a higher chance of losing. Therefore, the gambler should gamble not with winning but also with losing. If the gambler is able to understand the loss well, then it will not be difficult for him to lose. In gambling, everyone is enthusiastic about winning but losing is also deeply embedded in it. I think that since winning and losing are 50-50 with every bet, we should accept not only winning but also losing. When there is a fear of losing while betting, it will be difficult to behave aggressively to win.











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October 23, 2025, 05:37:31 PM
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Okay, to find the most reasonable answer, we must first examine and research what gambling actually is. Does anyone here agree with me that gambling is a business for casinos, whose goal is to generate profit? Logically, I think it's TRUE.

The reason is because most of the time, we lose more than we win, right? Wink

This means that what's more important is managing and preventing losses. Why? Because even if you chase wins, you never know when they might happen. Another contributing factor is that the percentage of wins is much smaller than losses.

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People think about the possibility of winning more than that of losing and I think that this is a wrong mindset to have when it comes to gambling. If you only gamble with the intention of winning you might end up getting disappointed at the end. Gambling is game of wins and losses, this is why its important to always stake responsibly because anything can happen at the end of the day. The chances of winning can only be increase my based on the type of games that you play and also the strategies that you apply to make sure that your losses are been minimised. If you are not tactical you'd lose more

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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

If we know from the start that we will lose in gambling, it is very likely that most people will avoid gambling, because basically gambling is done to try their luck. Everyone will certainly prefer to hope for victory in gambling because if what is expected is defeat, then the gambling that is done will only be in vain and of course only a waste of time with this gambling activity.

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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

There is more for us in defining why we are gambling and what we wanted from it, this will now determine the reaction we are going to made whenever we are in either of these situations, regardless of if we are losing or winning, it doesn't matter, all that is of concern is for us to have the necessary opportunities of gambling and making fun in it, without taking it too serious whether we win or lose doesn't matter.
This is definitely an important point, what is your main purpose in gambling, depending on this purpose you will get results.
For example, if your purpose is to make money, then your gambling style will be:
You will not be able to accept defeat, if you lose, you will become aggressive to recover the loss, and start gambling more for this. And the end result of all this will be huge losses.
But if your purpose is entertainment, then even if you lose, you will not worry too much about it, you are gambling for a temporary period, so you also can stop yourself at the right time.
This way it will be a healthy pastime, where you will not have any huge financial losses, because you initially started gambling only with the amount you can afford to lose.

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So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?
I have already estimated the amount of losses for each gambling session. No gambler can avoid losses, so I prepare an amount that I can bear. 
But of course, you know that every gambler expects to win. Still, we must be realistic that we will experience more losses than the wins we get. 
I don't see which is more important. Expecting to win provides motivation. And managing losses is also good for planning your financial budget.

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So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

I always hope to win, but we can't be sure whether we will actually win or not... So I don't like to make any premature conclusions or plans. It's on us to place the bet and wait for the end of the game... I learned a long time ago that until the referee blows the final whistle, anything is possible... sometimes big changes happen in the last few minutes. Sometimes those changes can be good for us, and many times they simply ruin our bets.

Expectations sometimes can turn out to have negative effects and outcomes on us. Like it can make you remive and take out all the risks away from the equation.

Since I already know that losses come more often than the wins, I tend to expect the losses more than the wins, so that when/if the wins doesn’t come, I’ll feel less or no disappointment and if they come? That’s for the best.

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Well, for me it’s the expected loses that is more important because I know what unplanned spending in gambling have led me to, so I don’t ever go there without already having the amount or rough percentages of what I’m willing to lose in that session. I now make deposits of what I’m willing to lose and once that amount is gone I too will leave till I get another one or till I feel the urge to gamble again.

For the wins, I don’t usually think too much about it, as simple as x2 is enough to make me call it a day, and since my deposits are usually not large, it takes very short time to hit it whenever I’m lucky, so whether it’s the lose or the wins, I tend not to spend too much time gambling because I know the kind of person I am and what it could lead to If I spend way much time than I’m supposed to spend gambling.

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Expected gain is more considered I mean from my end I’m ready for any outcome always yet winning comes first reason why everyone make possible means to win no matter what. The amount should be limited also not minding a win or lose situation because gambling is totally unpredictable, I know few people will always regret when using little amount mostly after a win, that’s normal but letting emotions gets in doesn’t sound right firstly we don’t know when to expect lose or win so it’s best gamblers stay on budget when gambling always probably exceeding the limit will definitely affect the budget.

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October 23, 2025, 09:09:30 PM
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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?


It's always good to expect the worst in everything not because you are negative but its a way of building a mental fortitude, this prepares you for anything that happens. Alot of people fail to brace themselves for impact that's why they get disappointed when they lose. Always expect losses more than wins, winning is not guaranteed in gambling it is all based on luck. Just take gambling as a fun activity

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October 23, 2025, 09:13:57 PM
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Expected gain is more considered I mean from my end I’m ready for any outcome always yet winning comes first reason why everyone make possible means to win no matter what. The amount should be limited also not minding a win or lose situation because gambling is totally unpredictable
I like your idea because you vividly expressed yourself on gambling and how it is unpredictable whether you have a sure game or not, you can still lose money to betting. Those that are new must be wise and patient and not allow other players result to increase the zealousness in them to continue gambling on a steady. We don't expect to lose bet but it has been a norms that people must lose for the casino they are using to have enough money to pay for ads, staffs, partnership and others.

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October 23, 2025, 09:25:02 PM
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In the world of accounts, you are told to recognise loses than profit even before they happen, and I want to believe this is the same line of thought as what has been shared in the OP.

Besides, I think naturally losses will mess with your mind more than what a win would do to you because nobody enjoys losing.

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October 23, 2025, 09:37:02 PM
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Expected gain is more considered I mean from my end I’m ready for any outcome always yet winning comes first reason why everyone make possible means to win no matter what. The amount should be limited also not minding a win or lose situation because gambling is totally unpredictable
I like your idea because you vividly expressed yourself on gambling and how it is unpredictable whether you have a sure game or not, you can still lose money to betting. Those that are new must be wise and patient and not allow other players result to increase the zealousness in them to continue gambling on a steady. We don't expect to lose bet but it has been a norms that people must lose for the casino they are using to have enough money to pay for ads, staffs, partnership and others.
The way you think indicates a realistic grasp of the reality of gambling. No one can be sure that they will win regardless of how sure they are of their decisions. There is never any doubt about a certainty that gambling is always subject to. Consequently, new entrants are not to hurry in winning. Rather they ought to be taught to learn about their patterns and limits. One should be extremely patient and not make such a decision influenced by emotions or influenced by other players.

It is a normal condition of the process of making casinos operate and losing is a normal factor which all the players should accept. When a person perceives gambling as a game that has material outcomes and does not presuppose that it is a means of earning, one will be capable of making the process enjoyable without being stressed and losing control.

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October 23, 2025, 09:43:43 PM
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Well, losses are to be expected but I think that our brains functioning well and getting us close to the results that we want.

And that's why it's best to think of the expected gains and wins that we are targeting. While not ignoring the fact that if we've got some losses, just expect them and accept it freely.

So, there's balance in both acceptance but the mindset that we're having is really powerful. And so to begin with, we have to think of the positive results and expected gains that we'll potentially have.

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