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December 03, 2025, 10:21:57 PM
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So it should never be allowed to get out of control, because as a result it can create a lot of big problems.
If we lose control, we become vulnerable and weak, and our money is what disappears. In other words, we'll be worse off Money is very necessary; we shouldn't leave it at the casino just because we have impulses We must be people who make a difference That's why it's essential that we, as good players, prioritize money above all else From there, control depends on the strategy we apply.

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December 04, 2025, 07:11:15 AM
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~ If we lose control, we become vulnerable and weak, and our money is what disappears. In other words, we'll be worse off Money is very necessary; we shouldn't leave it at the casino just because we have impulses

Just because of the impulses, yes, we shouldn't. But if we expect some loss before we start playing, if we expect to lose to casino, say, $5-$10, the money that we can afford to lose, than it's another story, right? I think, there's nothing wrong in "losing" some small amount on your entertainment. I deliberately put "losing" in quotation marks because to me it's not losing as such. I'm confident that money spent on your relaxation is not lost. I'd say, it's invested in the effectiveness of your work in the nearest future; and working more effectively you can make more money, right?

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December 04, 2025, 07:33:22 AM
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Responsibly gambling pays a lot but some people font know this. Whether one gambles responsibly or aggressively it doesn't change gambling from what it is, you will definitely win or lose and none of this gambling manners determine easily gambling,  instead gambling by all means to get win, no limit even makes gambling to even worse.  Gambling with more money that you cant afford to lose constantly increases ones loses in gambling and it is a kind of gambling style that is full of emotions, when the outcome you are getting is not what you expect. Gambling is a game of understanding and responsibly gambling is just the way to enjoy gambling.
Responsible or irresponsible gambling Winning is not always attached to how we gamble; the only difference is if you are a responsible gambler, you can easily control how much you spend while hoping to win, but for the irresponsible ones, they always gamble without control and end up losing much more money compared to what could have been spent if there was self-control.

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December 04, 2025, 07:45:12 AM
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Gambling is a game of understanding and responsibly gambling is just the way to enjoy gambling.
How do you enjoy gambling when you obviously lose than you win, no when can actually understand gambling because it's a lucky game. The only way is to play responsibly by not allowing your emotions or greed to overshadow you. You have to be careful when you're staking and knowing when to stop is responsibly. No matter how responsible you are it will not stop you from losing, but it will only limit your losing by knowing how when to summon courage to stop and take a break from gambling.

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December 04, 2025, 07:59:58 AM
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We need to think twice before making a gambling decision and we need to think in advance about how much money we will lose if the result goes against us. If we do not think about all this, then we will make fewer mistakes. Yes, as gamblers, our main objective is to win by gambling, but even if we expect to win, gamblers do not always win. Since gambling means taking a big risk of money, I think we should set an amount for gambling that will not cause much problem in our life if we lose that amount from our total money. It will always be a wrong move if gamblers gamble with most of their wealth. How much we are winning should not be our first priority, but our first priority should be what percentage of our total money we are risking.

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December 10, 2025, 02:35:33 AM
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I'd say, it's invested in the effectiveness of your work in the nearest future; and working more effectively you can make more money, right?
I would say that people who know how to seek long-term victories can have satisfactory results, but not everyone, because the long-term trend in a casino for a player is to lose. You have to know how to bet and do it very intelligently. If we don't do it that way, the loss of money will be incredible For me, playing in a casino is synonymous with having a lot of money management skills and the intelligence to control it and not fall into addiction, but rather know how to enjoy it.

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I'd say, it's invested in the effectiveness of your work in the nearest future; and working more effectively you can make more money, right?
I would say that people who know how to seek long-term victories can have satisfactory results, but not everyone, because the long-term trend in a casino for a player is to lose. You have to know how to bet and do it very intelligently. If we don't do it that way, the loss of money will be incredible For me, playing in a casino is synonymous with having a lot of money management skills and the intelligence to control it and not fall into addiction, but rather know how to enjoy it.

If you mean money management wise then I agree, but for some people who might not know this I'd like to add that you can't "know how to bet" in purely luck-based games like slots or roulette or similar to them with the exception of the size of the bet. Try to make the smallest bets possible and never increase them after a long losing streak hoping that a good win should happen soon.

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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

We can have lots of losses in the long term which is very correct but losses may not really be significant or have any negative influence to those who only gamble for fun by not keeping any record of losses, my current situation has been a lossing streaks and I don't give attention to my losses because it has always been an amount that I can afford to lose, I don't think about my losses my interest is on the expected gains and that is what it will always be because focusing on expected losses can change my gambling narratives. I gamble for fun.
Gambling should be played for fun, and all losses should be accepted, before the loss occurs you should determine that this money will definitely be lost to you, and determine the ability to bear the loss and you should use the money accordingly, so that later when you lose that money, you can control yourself and it does not force you to make wrong decisions emotionally. Since we can never predict the outcome, we should be ready to accept the loss from the situation, because when you lose beyond you can afford to lose, the situation can be very bad.
That should be the main thing we should bear in mind even before placing a bet at the first point, because one of the major reason most of us become more emotional when having significant lost is when you have already made budget on how to use or spend money you haven't won yet and when disappointed you become more frustrated.

However I believe by now we are surpose to have known that nothing is too sure in gambling, it's just a game I think we should enjoy and have fun instead of expecting more that can later turn into a nightmare.

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So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?
Balance is key, so gamblers should think about both sides.

This is important for well-informed calculations and plans that will consider both sides for the development of a good gambling system. By a gambling system, I mean the risk, gain and strategy factors being used to build the right management. It will definitely not shift to one side than the other if both are carefully weighed and used.

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Responsibly gambling pays a lot but some people font know this. Whether one gambles responsibly or aggressively it doesn't change gambling from what it is, you will definitely win or lose and none of this gambling manners determine easily gambling,  instead gambling by all means to get win, no limit even makes gambling to even worse.  Gambling with more money that you cant afford to lose constantly increases ones loses in gambling and it is a kind of gambling style that is full of emotions, when the outcome you are getting is not what you expect. Gambling is a game of understanding and responsibly gambling is just the way to enjoy gambling.
Responsible or irresponsible gambling Winning is not always attached to how we gamble; the only difference is if you are a responsible gambler, you can easily control how much you spend while hoping to win, but for the irresponsible ones, they always gamble without control and end up losing much more money compared to what could have been spent if there was self-control.
Responsible gambling does not change the odds of the game but it completely changes the impact the game has on your life. You can win or lose whether you gamble responsibly or recklessly the difference is in how much control you maintain. A responsible gambler sets limits uses only money they can afford to lose and accepts outcomes without chasing losses. This keeps the damage small and keeps gambling as entertainment. An irresponsible gambler removes all boundaries and bets from emotion fear frustration or desperation. That is when losses grow quickly and life begins to suffer. The truth is simple. Responsible gambling does not increase the chances of winning. It increases the chances of staying safe disciplined and in control so the game never becomes a problem.

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Honestly, most of us think more about how much we can win, right? We plan the payout, imagine the run, and dream about hitting that one big bet. But not a lot of people actually think about the amount they’re fine losing.For me, that part matters more, especially if you’re betting long-term. If you can manage your losses, you’ll last longer. The wins will eventually come, but if your bankroll’s gone early, that’s it, no next chance no comeback.

So I’m wondering, which side do you guys think is more important? The expected profit or the expected loss?

Every time I gamble or have extra funds to bet in an online casino, I immediately assume that I’ve already lost because I know that the majority of people who play online (including gamblers like us) almost always lose, with only a few actually winning. That’s just reality, and most should accept it.

But instead of this mindset, they treat luck as a glimmer of hope that might turn their lives around. It shouldn’t be their mindset, though, because they’re giving themselves false hope
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Just because of the impulses, yes, we shouldn't. But if we expect some loss before we start playing, if we expect to lose to casino, say, $5-$10, the money that we can afford to lose, than it's another story, right? I think, there's nothing wrong in "losing" some small amount on your entertainment. I deliberately put "losing" in quotation marks because to me it's not losing as such. I'm confident that money spent on your relaxation is not lost. I'd say, it's invested in the effectiveness of your work in the nearest future; and working more effectively you can make more money, right?

Well done, and in fact it is important to try not to exaggerate with how much you play, because we must only play what we can afford to lose. And we must remember that this, in fact, is a game, therefore not a job. It's just a hobby, not a way to make money.

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I'd say, it's invested in the effectiveness of your work in the nearest future; and working more effectively you can make more money, right?
I would say that people who know how to seek long-term victories can have satisfactory results, but not everyone, because the long-term trend in a casino for a player is to lose. You have to know how to bet and do it very intelligently. If we don't do it that way, the loss of money will be incredible For me, playing in a casino is synonymous with having a lot of money management skills and the intelligence to control it and not fall into addiction, but rather know how to enjoy it.

It is better to engage in long term gambling only after being aware of money management in gambling. Long term gambling has a high probability of losing money. Skill based gambling especially in sports betting has also probability of losing. Trying to win in the long term can also make gamblers addicted. For satisfactory results long term gambling should be abandoned and money management should be given utmost importance.

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Well done, and in fact it is important to try not to exaggerate with how much you play, because we must only play what we can afford to lose. And we must remember that this, in fact, is a game, therefore not a job. It's just a hobby, not a way to make money.
Even making gambling a hobby – is that not too risky? If you ask me, the more you make yourself very comfortable around gambling, the more dangerous it might become for you, and the limit at which you set yourself to be gambling might be broken before you even realise it.

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December 13, 2025, 01:23:39 AM
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So it should never be allowed to get out of control, because as a result it can create a lot of big problems.
If we lose control, we become vulnerable and weak, and our money is what disappears. In other words, we'll be worse off Money is very necessary; we shouldn't leave it at the casino just because we have impulses We must be people who make a difference That's why it's essential that we, as good players, prioritize money above all else From there, control depends on the strategy we apply.

Losing self-control while gambling allows us to bet without caution, making choices and decisions quickly without careful consideration, thus increasing the risk of losing money or even experiencing greater losses. Most people gamble for money, and that's why winning and profit are the hope for many. Unfortunately, placing too much hope in gambling can also lead to harm, such as becoming addicted. However, I believe prioritizing personal safety is paramount, as prioritizing money is tantamount to placing too much hope in gambling for winning.

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December 13, 2025, 01:53:07 AM
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Well done, and in fact it is important to try not to exaggerate with how much you play, because we must only play what we can afford to lose. And we must remember that this, in fact, is a game, therefore not a job. It's just a hobby, not a way to make money.
Even making gambling a hobby – is that not too risky? If you ask me, the more you make yourself very comfortable around gambling, the more dangerous it might become for you, and the limit at which you set yourself to be gambling might be broken before you even realise it.

It can be dangerous if you can’t manage your greed. People often tend to spend more than they should on their hobbies, but as long as we can control ourselves, I think it’s fine. I consider gambling a hobby because I genuinely enjoy it, but I always remind myself not to cross the limits I’ve set. There are many temptations to gamble with large amounts, but I’m able to control myself and stay within those boundaries.

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December 13, 2025, 02:22:39 AM
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So it should never be allowed to get out of control, because as a result it can create a lot of big problems.
If we lose control, we become vulnerable and weak, and our money is what disappears. In other words, we'll be worse off Money is very necessary; we shouldn't leave it at the casino just because we have impulses We must be people who make a difference That's why it's essential that we, as good players, prioritize money above all else From there, control depends on the strategy we apply.

Losing self-control while gambling allows us to bet without caution, making choices and decisions quickly without careful consideration, thus increasing the risk of losing money or even experiencing greater losses. Most people gamble for money, and that's why winning and profit are the hope for many. Unfortunately, placing too much hope in gambling can also lead to harm, such as becoming addicted. However, I believe prioritizing personal safety is paramount, as prioritizing money is tantamount to placing too much hope in gambling for winning.
It is a better concept to be aware of how you will protect your personal funds from losses. Since you are gambling to make money most of the time, exercising self control can be a good strategy to avoid excessive losses. Gamblers have high expectations of making money, so it is not a better concept to consider gambling as the only way to make money. You should assume that gambling is for entertainment but it is not the only way to make money. The priority should be entertainment, second entertainment, third entertainment, and next money. So it is better to choose a different career as an alternative and consider gambling as a priority for entertainment.











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December 13, 2025, 02:24:02 PM
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It can be dangerous if you can’t manage your greed. People often tend to spend more than they should on their hobbies, but as long as we can control ourselves, I think it’s fine. I consider gambling a hobby because I genuinely enjoy it, but I always remind myself not to cross the limits I’ve set. There are many temptations to gamble with large amounts, but I’m able to control myself and stay within those boundaries.
It is good that you keep a limit on your gambling. Without limits life becomes difficult to manage. If you are keeping it as a hobby then you are doing the right thing.

Do not bet more than you can afford to lose which has been historically kept at <10% of your bankroll.

Expected values might be positive or negative but end of the day luck will matter and that ends up coming right in 50% of the cases.

 
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December 13, 2025, 04:14:40 PM
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It can be dangerous if you can’t manage your greed. People often tend to spend more than they should on their hobbies, but as long as we can control ourselves, I think it’s fine. I consider gambling a hobby because I genuinely enjoy it, but I always remind myself not to cross the limits I’ve set. There are many temptations to gamble with large amounts, but I’m able to control myself and stay within those boundaries.
Exactly, because the biggest problem with gambling is keeping your limits. At first everyone thinks you're in control but greed is what suddenly pushes people beyond their limits. The way you look at it as a hobby and set clear limits for yourself is actually a very responsible mindset. However in my personal experience I have seen that it is not always easy to stick to these limits. Especially when you win a little you feel like playing a little more might be better, and this is where the danger lies, I also have a record of losing all my winnings, although the amounts were small.

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December 13, 2025, 04:26:22 PM
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In gambling, one should expected anything and everything because its difficult for one to predict accurately in gambling, that is why it's based on luck and chance and not by how smart one is or how strategy one IQ is.
So in gambling, it's crucial for people to do it out of fun and not a means of making money or getting rich through it, as it will corrupts one's mind if people has such mindset towards gambling, which will always results to more losses and leads one to become addicted and becoming addicted do comes with depression and frustration.
So, for the benefits of their mental health or wellbeing, it's better for them to avoid anything that will lead them to get addicted in gambling.

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