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October 24, 2025, 03:46:03 PM
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But not all user is doing a high odds bet. I typically bet on odds with 1.3 to 1.5 range and parlay it if I want to have an odds more than 1.9.

I believe there’s still a lot of user that doing safe bets on lower odds considering that there’s already a VIP benefits such as level up and rakeback that gives rewards on the wager volume regardless of the odds.

I do like the safe approach on betting low odds just like your trading strategy.
I also like doing safe bet but what I noticed is that it will encourage gamblers to increase the money that they are using to gamble, but it is not affecting me like that anymore since I know that the possibility to still lose the money is very high.

Also it is good to know that there are people that are using high leverage to trade and this is the opposite of what OP is saying. OP is not correct just like I have posted about it few hours ago.

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October 24, 2025, 03:49:52 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?

While trading you don't lose it all, you may be down like 20 or even 40% if it's a worst dump on the market so the remaining 60% can be used on to something that can give you some profits later. But with gambling if you wager in a bet that could potentially give you $110 then you will get $110 or $0. Which is why you can treat gambling and trading in the same way.

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October 24, 2025, 03:55:51 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
The point is simple. In gambling, you can win or lose the entire amount you bet. There is no option to use partial funds for betting. When you win in gambling, you have the opportunity to make a lot of money by using a very small amount of funds. If you lose, you will lose the amount you bet. And you need to be very lucky to win. Experience and strategy do not guarantee victory.

To trade you need to be experienced and use strategy in buying and selling currencies. Most of the time, traders are satisfied with small profits and do not want to take risks so they sell at a small profit.

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October 24, 2025, 04:00:01 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?

While trading you don't lose it all, you may be down like 20 or even 40% if it's a worst dump on the market so the remaining 60% can be used on to something that can give you some profits later. But with gambling if you wager in a bet that could potentially give you $110 then you will get $110 or $0. Which is why you can treat gambling and trading in the same way.

Yes, this answer has to do with danherbias07's post about considering losing. Because even if you go for just a 10% of profit, if you lose you lose it all: think about games like dice, crash, where it is very clear. Even if you don't do it the same day/week/month/year, if you keep following this strategy, to double you should win 10 games with a multiplicator of 1.1, and there are many chances that you'd lose at least one of them, losing all, and wiping all the benefits accumulated (unless you plan to play just a round, get your 10% profit and quit gambling forever).

While trading, you don't lose until you sell, and you usually don't sell for zero, like you suggested, but in gambling it is sudden and definitive, so although I've said several times that trading has a lot to do with gambling, when talking about strategy we can't compare both disciplines.

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October 24, 2025, 04:02:51 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?

Why? I'd say, because it's boring, innit? In sports betting I personally aim for 100x, or something around that, 30 x minimum. And 30x is, how much is it, 3,000% of your bet? I think, it is. Of course, I don't bet $100 at once, I have to say. I bet $1 usually, and if I win $100 or just $30 in the end - I'm super happy. Risking $100 in order to potentially, if you are lucky, have $10 profit is boring and stupid, in my opinion.

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October 24, 2025, 04:05:32 PM
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While trading, you don't lose until you sell, and you usually don't sell for zero, like you suggested, but in gambling it is sudden and definitive, so although I've said several times that trading has a lot to do with gambling, when talking about strategy we can't compare both disciplines.

There are resemblances and often trading shitcoins feels nothing but a big gamble but it doesn't make both things as same, and you can use the same strategy here for the simple reasons I mentioned. And someone can prove me wrong if they disagree with what I said.

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October 24, 2025, 04:12:06 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
I think people have more expectations and confidence in gambling compared to trading, maybe because they understand the market better, as the market can never be predicted.

Most gamblers are very confident in gambling because of their understanding of the game and their predictions. However, it makes a lot of sense to appreciate the small wins in gambling because trying to get more can result in losing it all. As a gambler, it is important to understand that winning is not certain, and if you are lucky enough to win, there is no need to keep trying for more wins, as you may end up without anything left.

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October 24, 2025, 04:22:08 PM
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This is the reason why we have more successful traders than gamblers, there's only a few number of people that actually makes money from gambling, not everyone that trade makes profit but a lot of traders are able to minimise their losses by the application of trading strategies. Gamblers are overly greedy, that's the reason why they dont win in the long run and if traders think like gamblers they might face the same consequences of being indisciplined. If gamblers start thinking like disciplined traders the rate at which they chase losses, profits and get addicted would be reduced because they will be focused more on setting small targets and quiting when they hit it. Applying trading strategies in gambling can be beneficial.

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October 24, 2025, 04:23:44 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
First of all, how many naïve traders you followed to conclude about wrapping up with all the satisfaction after making 10% profits? In reality, the number of traders who gamble in markets are significantly higher than real gamblers who turn greedy and looking beyond 10% return. Lack of control in emotions is the reason here. Overall, I would say that there is no such trading strategy among naive traders so expecting that to be followed by gambler is not making sense in my opinion.

someone can prove me wrong if they disagree with what I said.
No, I completely agree with your point. Gambling got all the potential to wipe out our 100% of bankroll whereas in trading 100% dump is very very rare.
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October 24, 2025, 04:28:59 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
Trading and gambling are not the same. In trading, no one loses his entire capital if he does spot trading, so here 10% profit in a day is a big enough profit. But in gambling, once you lose a bet, you lose the entire amount of the bet, so 10% profit here is very small because here you have to win 10 times in gambling to double the balance, but once you lose, the entire capital will be gone. So I don't think you should ever bet on 100% profit in any gambling game. Because there is a high risk of losing money here, so the amount of profit should always be high. So I agree with you that you can never be happy in gambling with 10% profit. So trading strategies should never be used in gambling.

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October 24, 2025, 04:29:11 PM
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We may try to apply a new approach as such being mentioned with the use of trading strategy, but do we know it that even in trades we make losses and can't prevent that from coming, the same way we have to understand how this could be present in gambling, that regardless of the strategy used to play our bets, we still stand the chance of losing or winning, therefore if we can't risk a bet for loss, we shouldn't attempt playing.
Risk is in everything, what is risk-free? Nothing, no matter what we do, there will be risk, but we have to control this risk through risk management. We have to reduce this risk by using our own skills, we must be careful in trading, it is wise for those who do not have the ability or mental preparation to take risks not to enter these places, because nothing is risk-free.











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October 24, 2025, 04:37:48 PM
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Most gamblers will disagree with you op because to them they think having 10%  profit in their gambling is big but in reality it is difficult for most gamblers to target taking 10% profit in gambling but they would be happy getting their 10% in trading but if they keep doubting you then why does most gamblers avoid taking cash out in their bet?  Some gamblers are very greedy they will never take 20% cash out in gambling that's why most of them keep losing money in gambling.
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October 24, 2025, 04:43:36 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
Maybe it's only you that is not happy with 5-10% when betting sports? You just said you were happy with that in trading but can't stop in sports, but that's not everyone. Some are more than happy to take a small profit and walk away for the night, but yes there are those that will bet game after game after game chasing a triple up or something. I think they do it because sports are only around for so long each year. Not everyone bets on many different sports, but rather they are focused on 1. Like me, I love NFL football but it's only around from September to February, gotta make that money while I can. Trading is there all the time.

You're right that some people are very ok with winning 5%-10% of their investment, including me, even as a gambler and as a trader, but it seems the majority of the gamblers fall in this category of expecting a very high return on bets, especially 100% return, because during the days when I do visit physical betting shops in my area, I used to see people who are using like #100 to win about #500k, 1 million, 5 million, and above, accumulating 10 to 50 different games in one bet slip, and how on earth would this person be able to win such a bet? That's why you see for a period of 1 year someone is into betting; such a gambler hasn't been able to win any money as he continues to use such a betting approach, except he wins by luck.

 
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October 24, 2025, 04:44:46 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
Smiles.. and do you think this would work if you want to apply that trading strategies to gambling?
Well, it may works for you and not others as everyone has different way they approaches gambling, and to what they aim at winning while gambling, if that methods works for you another person might be targeting something higher and separate as you does.
if you stake in odds of 1.5. 1.8, 2.0 and places bet with $50, such person is expected to win either $75, 90, and or $100 respectively but then, ask yourself how possible is it to win?


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October 24, 2025, 04:52:52 PM
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In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?
You trade focusing on making money and considering the risks. Therefore, you are satisfied with small profits from trading. But in gambling, you do not necessarily focus on profit. Some gamblers also seek enjoyment. So in gambling, small profits will not be sufficiently enjoyable for a gambler. 
However, if you want to apply gambling methods as if you were trading, you can try it and see if you can manage your profits. Whether it will be enjoyable or rather become boring for you.

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Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?

This sounds like a good plan, but let me quickly remind you about something. gambling is supposed to be treated as fun and not a place to make money like that of trading, I believe those who are into trading are not doing it for fun but to make profit. Though implementing this method in gambling sounds like a good idea especially to those who are very much concern in profit making. so Yeah, this method can help in achieving those dreams they have been longing to see it coming to manifestation.


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Trading and betting are completely different, when trading you can still limit losses, either in futures or spot if the market reverses, but in betting there is no such safety net because even if you bet at odds of 1.10 which is considered very safe, it does not guarantee 100% that you will end up winning. There are always surprises and eventually you will lose 100% of your money and need 10 bets at the same odds to recover it. So for me it remains realistic to target 100% profit in gambling.
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October 24, 2025, 05:28:13 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. I will just aim to win even more that 100% of my capital and that is the reason most gamblers fail.
Why not use the trading approach and make 5%, 10% profits in each bet. If we apply this method, we are going to win more than 70% of our bets.
In trading we are okay with small wins, but in gambling the case is different. Why?

We can't blame those who look for bigger wins though, maybe they are trying to recover what they have lost.
It is definitely not a really a wise idea and yes we should definitely blame these folks whoo try so hard ro recover what they lost by chasing bigger win, honestly it sound so much like desperation. And this act of desperation mostly stem from those gamblers with a greed infested Mindset and we all know what greed and desperation do to gamblers. One major implication of greed and/ or desperation is that it causes addiction. As most gamblers wiill be on a gambling spree to try recovering all which was lost and little by little they slip into addiction without even realizing it in most cases.











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October 24, 2025, 05:32:25 PM
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The trading approach is not just about making a 5%-10% profit but more complex things that you need to learn,
and every price movement is observed with technical and fundamental analysis.

While betting in gambling, you only need to look at the data from the players and previous matches and then who the opponent of the team you want to support.
Then this also depends on a luck that will happen in the match, no one can guess the final score.

Don't use all your money to bet, do it with the right management.

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October 24, 2025, 05:37:14 PM
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If I enter a trade with $100 and eventually exits the trade with $110, I will be happy that I made $10 profit, which is 10% of my capital.
But in gambling, especially sports betting, I cannot use $100 and try to win $110. ..
That's almost a sure win on odds for such bet, who wouldn't take it? After winning, you could try repeating the same strategy on other matches that offer similar "sure win" odds. So why not do it, right? Even if it requires waiting a few hours for the right match to appear, I'd still consider placing a bet if the odds are that favorable.
Will you win? For example, with odds of 1.10 or 1.20, what if the match does not go as expected even though the odds of winning are almost certain?

In trading you may be able to SL when the market goes against you, whereas in match betting you may be offered cashing out but that's not always available is it? What if your team loses then the usual cashing out feature will not be active.

So for me trading and betting are different strategies.
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