Gold to bitcoin

[MykeAdams]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

[ColdLava40]

In what regards mate? How does golds price index correlate with that of bitcoin? Golds market in no way have anything to do with that of bitcoin as they are two different assets.

[MinoRaiola]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

Even many people compare gold with bitcoin, they are two different things and bitcoin is better 
Behind the fiat currency, there is still a person making this decision to buy gold or bitcoin. If they understand that they can store value more easily with Bitcoin and know that the value can rise and fall more quickly, then they maybe not buy gold. The price of gold is currently high, and this is current by wars, inflation, and global differences. As a result, fear is driving people to buy more and more gold. In the future, this should also be the case with Bitcoin, but I dont think it will take long time.

[ZeroVinsonN]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

I cannot agree with the ideology that Gold is serving as some kind of a moderator on how the bitcoin market moves, there are two very different types of assets, Gold is physical after all and bitcoin isn't and they operate on different principles all together, there might have been a patterned similarity for a while now but that's most likely just coincidence and nothing more than that, give bitcoin half the amount of time Gold has spent in the market and then you'd probably say that bitcoin price is regulating the price movement of every other assets in the market.
Sincerely speaking gold has really done some good numbers in the market and at this rate bitcoin is going to do even more in a short while from now.

[Free Market Capitalist]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement?

In what regards mate? How does golds price index correlate with that of bitcoin? Golds market in no way have anything to do with that of bitcoin as they are two different assets.

From what I've heard, both are driven by liquidity in the system, which first causes gold to move, followed by Bitcoin. I haven't verified this myself, but I'll leave it there as a possible explanation. According to this, we should see a rise in Bitcoin in the not too distant future. We'll see.

[Sammye3]

There have being several articles comparing Bitcoin and gold and to some extent I think they have both being doing great numbers in the past and in recent times and one should not be used to determine the price movement of the other as the are both distinct asset with different structures and relevance.

Gold have being long in the business before Bitcoin and has being doing great as a store of wealth but with Bitcoin cryptography, I think it could outperform gold if given more time in the future.

I'm looking forward to seeing Bitcoin uplift many from poverty and improving economic standards in the country.

[bhadz]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement?

How it became a director of the movement of Bitcoin? It's always been compared because of how good these two are as an investment.

The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

I don't understand but with what we can see, both gold and bitcoin are on their ATH. And that's probably the signal that you're saying and as the usual pattern of these markets, once they've reached the peak then they'll start to correct which we might see first with gold and then with Bitcoin which is the bear market.

[BALIK]

I'm looking forward to seeing Bitcoin uplift many from poverty and improving economic standards in the country.

Bitcoin is just like gold, stocks or any financial investment, it cannot help the poor escape from poverty because it does not create jobs, it does not generate passive income.

If they want to escape poverty, only they can help themselves by working, earning more income and possibly taking advantage of the long term growth of bitcoin to increase their assets faster.  Bitcoin can be a good support tool for them if they know how to use it properly, it cannot help them escape poverty by itself.

Bitcoin is touted as the future of finance, but our world economy is much larger and more complex than we understand. Don't set your expectations so high that it can significantly impact and change the system that has existed and maintained for centuries. That is not easy.

[GreatArkansas]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

For me, it's just the same. It's how the market works, even though Gold's market cap is already huge, it's still the same as other markets like the stock market. Even some big personalities recently claimed that the stock market correlates withthe  Bitcoin market too.

So for me, what's the best thing happen with Bitcoin that just like happened to Gold when Bitcoin got it's ETF, price rallied. This also happened  before with Gold on it's first ETF.

[Justbillywitt]

I'm looking forward to seeing Bitcoin uplift many from poverty and improving economic standards in the country.

Bitcoin can only uplift you from poverty if you have a reasonable number of bitcoin in your portfolio and you are going to hold it for a very long term. You don't expect your your 0.001 stash of bitcoin  to take you out of poverty. It's not also a guarantee that your investment in bitcoin will yield you profits. It is expected that bitcoin will go higher in price in the future, but expectations can be disappointed.

[Hazink]

Bitcoin can only uplift you from poverty if you have a reasonable number of bitcoin in your portfolio and you are going to hold it for a very long term. You don't expect your your 0.001 stash of bitcoin  to take you out of poverty. It's not also a guarantee that your investment in bitcoin will yield you profits. It is expected that bitcoin will go higher in price in the future, but expectations can be disappointed.

We just focus more on the price and profit aspect of bitcoin and pay less attention to other things which Bitcoin is meant for. 

Even for someone who has the opportunity to invest and buy thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin, they will only make a profit based on what they have invested in it. That's to say, with the current level which the bitcoin price has reached, the poor should look for better things to do to elevate themselves and not to invest $100 and expect miracles to happen. Those who turned wealthy through Bitcoin are those who in the earlier days invested $1k to $10k back in 2009 and later make sales now that Bitcoin have reached $100k and above.

[MykeAdams]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

Even many people compare gold with bitcoin, they are two different things and bitcoin is better 

Having both of them as assets in our portfolio is more better, they can still give  profits at different time, like now gold is rising and bitcoin price is dropping, an investor who has bitcoin and gold in thier portfolio  will be making profits In gold while waiting on bitcoin to pick up

[WhoYouCantKill]

It is beginning to appear that way. Gold and Bitcoin has gotten fame as safe-haven assets, mostly if investors lose trust in traditional markets. Hence when gold prices rise, it usually signals risk aversion and Bitcoin oftentimes follows as investors treat it like digital gold. Yet, Bitcoin is lots more volatile and influenced by other  factors like regulations and liquidity, as gold might give hints on time, it's not yet complete director of Bitcoin's movement.

[Jubilee58]

In what regards mate? How does golds price index correlate with that of bitcoin? Golds market in no way have anything to do with that of bitcoin as they are two different assets.

Both gold and bitcoin are all store of value, but they have there differences.

Gold is physical asset that has been in existence long ago before bitcoin, gold is also a store of value with stable price. The price of gold is not volatile and adds value over time.

Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency that is used for transactional purpose on a blockchain technology, bitcoin is also a store of value asset that adds in value over time.

Bitcoin is a volatile asset, unlike gold but it's market capitalization has flipped that of gold even though is a new asset compared with gold, and is quickly gaining more adoption and institutional interest .

Bitcoin is gaining more recognition, especially by young investors and has delivered massive profits than gold despite the volatile nature, it keeps giving investors the optimism  for huge profit.

Gold and Bitcoin are two different classes of asset, they are not serving the same purpose except for investment, while both of them are store of value , bitcoin is a digital currency that is used for transactions.

[Minor Miner]

Having both of them as assets in our portfolio is more better, they can still give  profits at different time, like now gold is rising and bitcoin price is dropping, an investor who has bitcoin and gold in thier portfolio  will be making profits In gold while waiting on bitcoin to pick up

Indeed, both are potential investments and can yield returns at different times. Gold typically increases in an unstable, volatile economy, while bitcoin typically outperforms in a stable economy. So a smart investor is one who invests in both and leverages them to get maximum profits, instead of wasting time comparing which one is better and staying conservative, and missing out on the opportunity to earn more profits.

After all, the purpose of investing is profit, so there is no point in constantly saying this is better than that when it does not help us make more profit.

[Cryptohygenic]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

There is no two ways about it. They are both keen driven by the nature of the macroeconomy and are scarce assets. Same volatility potentials to hedge global inflation. Their market driving forces are not directly controlled but manipulated by economy sentiments.
They both shares lot of potential characteristics while the big differences is the digital and physical form and their "supply limits" which more scarce it is the the more hedge it gains against inflation.

So judging from historical performance of both assets and how volatile economy system has become that inflation is almost becoming a common thing while the fiats is being negatively affected, don't you think most investors would be interested to invest in bitcoin more in the future? Development is coming and so things evolves, don't you think lot of investors will want to hold digital assets like bitcoin? Governments are also not respecting self rights, don't you think those who values their privacies will adopt bitcoin?
So forget. Time will come when conveniences on how to spend your money will be at the considerate with the way authorities are invading

So tell me, how would gold psychological market sentiments drive bitcoin market now and then.

[_act_]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

I trade digital gold and I am also trading bitcoin.

When the trade war began by Trump, bitcoin price fall but gold price increased.

It also happened like that the second time.

So how are they going in the same trend? I do not think so.

[Youngrebel]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

If you backup your thread with images, it would have been more beautiful and nice. And I will tell straight that gold can't control the movement of bitcoin but just the demand and supply at the time that made the two to have that differences. After the last trade with China, China decided to pump in to gold and invest massively and that made gold to rise up and making Bitcoin to decline. But we all know that that is for the moment. When the buying power is high on bitcoin again the price of bitcoin Will rise again and gold will no where to be mentioned.
It is good for Bitcoin to be at this price for now so that ordinary people can invest in it.

[MinoRaiola]

Having both of them as assets in our portfolio is more better, they can still give  profits at different time, like now gold is rising and bitcoin price is dropping, an investor who has bitcoin and gold in thier portfolio  will be making profits In gold while waiting on bitcoin to pick up

That maybe true, but no one can predict the future... or My Fly...perhaps. Damn, I really need to buy a DeLorean and try it out . Or many people are now comparing Bitcoin and gold because they see charts like this:


https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1981995899615076418

The chart looks good, and if you look at Bitcoin, there is still a jump in the price to come. So maybe, no guarantee, but it still looks good.

[Die_empty]

I saw this on the net and thought of bringing it here to be discussed, is gold becoming a director of bitcoin market movement? The market signals are beginning to pattern things in that format and suggestions are that the gold market would in the future be a signal for investors  sentiment.

It would have been better if you had thrown more light on your thoughts, or dropped a link that would have explained what you intend to convey.

However, it is common for investors to seek assets that are reliable when there is economic uncertainty or even when interest rates are reduced. During inflation, tariff spats, conflict, etc, investors will want to buy assets that can protect them from inflation.

We say people are buying gold during the US, India, and China tariff wars. The gold price increased because of high demand, but the Bitcoin price dropped significantly during that period. Gold and Bitcoin also gain more interest when interest rates are reduced. Both assets are affected by economic and political policies. I know Bitcoin directs the crypto market but I don't think gold directs the movement of Bitcoin.