If you really trust your skills, the key is to bet more, not less

[$crypto$]

I actually wonder how many of us here can build a proper bankroll, because for me that’s the first important step to show if we’re serious about trying to be profitable in the long run.

How about you, have you started building yours?

I don't build an adequate bankroll often a small bankroll because it's betting so it's not important to be adequate bigger for me it's excessive --- although you said with adequate bankroll it can be an important step of long-term betting, yeah I know about that but thinking of achieving long-term profits in gambling is too much so it has an adequate bankroll even relatively smaller.

[sotelorene]

I actually wonder how many of us here can build a proper bankroll, because for me that’s the first important step to show if we’re serious about trying to be profitable in the long run.

How about you, have you started building yours?

I don't build an adequate bankroll often a small bankroll because it's betting so it's not important to be adequate bigger for me it's excessive --- although you said with adequate bankroll it can be an important step of long-term betting, yeah I know about that but thinking of achieving long-term profits in gambling is too much so it has an adequate bankroll even relatively smaller.

You are absolutely correct and yes it doesn't have to be adequate but rather it should be what one can afford to lose or joke around with because profit is not assured in gambling but sometimes what we can afford to lose may not be even small but it can be big and it can also be small depending on the individual but the most important is using what will be convenient for you to gamble because whenever you lose what you can afford to lose it won't be like you lost something but when you exceed this, that's where the case of chasing loss will arise and we can not afford to do that.

[Cryptmuster]

You are absolutely correct and yes it doesn't have to be adequate but rather it should be what one can afford to lose or joke around with because profit is not assured in gambling but sometimes what we can afford to lose may not be even small but it can be big and it can also be small depending on the individual but the most important is using what will be convenient for you to gamble because whenever you lose what you can afford to lose it won't be like you lost something but when you exceed this, that's where the case of chasing loss will arise and we can not afford to do that.

I think that regardless of a player’s status and how much they can afford to play, after the deposit is lost you will start thinking about recovering it, and this applies to any player. It is also inevitable that a player will increase their deposit if they are winning. The most important thing is that these winnings are not just a random winning streak but are proven over time. And it is also important to feel comfortable making bigger bets, because if you have never done that before, it may feel like a completely different game.

[Dareo]

The original post contains a key caveat: "If you manage to maintain a 55% win rate" over 100 games. That might seem easy. I don't deny that it's possible, and such a win rate is quite probable. The problem is that it's most likely a random win rate. And since this win rate is most likely random, the subsequent discussion is essentially meaningless. It doesn't matter how you distribute your bets. At best, you'll only slow down the loss of your deposit. No one can guarantee that in the next 100 games, your win rate won't be, for example, 35%.

Well, I understand why you say that the winning rate is random but it doesn't seem right to blame the whole thing on luck. Because honestly there are some people who play regularly and understand the game, can predict what happens in certain situations, and from there create a fairly stable winning rate. Not everyone can do this, but it's not impossible either. But the other side of what you said is also true. People often think that after a few wins they have become skilled but that winning can also be luck. This is where the real mistake is, It is dangerous to assume the future is certain based on winning rate, because the stumbling block comes exactly when someone assumes that their rate will not change and the market or the game does not give anyone such guarantees.

In my opinion, the truth is somewhere in between. It is wrong to say it is all luck and it is also wrong to say it is all skill and the moment someone assumes that their 55 percent winning rate is permanent, that is when their downfall begins. So the discussion is not completely pointless but it must also be accepted that this winning rate can change at any time and if you are not mentally prepared for that, you will suffer.

[Olatundespo]

I actually wonder how many of us here can build a proper bankroll, because for me that’s the first important step to show if we’re serious about trying to be profitable in the long run.

How about you, have you started building yours?

I don't build an adequate bankroll often a small bankroll because it's betting so it's not important to be adequate bigger for me it's excessive --- although you said with adequate bankroll it can be an important step of long-term betting, yeah I know about that but thinking of achieving long-term profits in gambling is too much so it has an adequate bankroll even relatively smaller.

I agree with you. For some gambler a sufficient bankroll may be a one-day budget for others. But if you allocate funds for gambling according to your financial capacity, then it will be the right decision. Bankroll is created to be rebuilding because you cannot be limited by the amount of funds you allocate regularly due to gambling. I think bankroll forces a gambler to play in a disciplined manner and it can put the gambler in a comfortable mental state so that he can think that he will not exceed it. Bankroll is a great wall to limit gamblers for long-term gambling but it is not a permanent solution you have to gamble with discipline and control yourself.

[Zackz5000]

I don't trust my skills when it comes to gambling because I believe there is no real skill involved in winning the sport betting, we can stretch the number of bets and also we can do the match but one loss can eat away the progress of 10 previous wins and if this keeps repeating then you are not going anywhere other than starting over and over.

The reason we shouldn't trust our skill in gambling is that the game is unpredictable and winning is not a guarantee just like you said one game cut will mess the whole bet up and you start all over. You can't put your trust on players they are human and can get you disappointed, even footballs playing don't know the what the game will be of at the end, so we should not take because we have some skill in gambling and gamble with huge amount we can't afford to loss believing to win we will get disappointed.

So not mater your good skills in gambling we are advise to gamble with what we can afford to loss.

[tvplus006]

...That’s why I think the real edge comes from volume. If you’re confident in your skill, the more bets you take (with proper bankroll management of course), the more your edge compounds. ..

Not in all cases, the outcome of the game will depend on your skills, as there will necessarily be results that cannot even be imagined due to the impact of various factors. It is for this reason that it is necessary to follow the rules of risk management and, in particular, not to overestimate the volume.

[eisen33]

Before you decide to increase your bets, consider the potential consequences, what will happen if you hit a losing streak, and how long your deposit and bankroll will last. If you're doing this to start making money through gambling, then of course you can try, but I think you should be prepared to lose the money before you do. I understand that if you're aiming to make money through gambling, your expectations may differ from the actual results.

[Lanatsa]

I don't trust my skills when it comes to gambling because I believe there is no real skill involved in winning the sport betting, we can stretch the number of bets and also we can do the match but one loss can eat away the progress of 10 previous wins and if this keeps repeating then you are not going anywhere other than starting over and over.

The reason we shouldn't trust our skill in gambling is that the game is unpredictable and winning is not a guarantee just like you said one game cut will mess the whole bet up and you start all over. You can't put your trust on players they are human and can get you disappointed, even footballs playing don't know the what the game will be of at the end, so we should not take because we have some skill in gambling and gamble with huge amount we can't afford to loss believing to win we will get disappointed.

So not mater your good skills in gambling we are advise to gamble with what we can afford to loss.

Gambling can give an illusion of skill especially in sports betting where analysis stats and form seem to matter but at the end of the day outcomes still depend heavily on luck and randomness no matter how much research you do a single unexpected event like a red card penalty or injury can ruin your whole bet and take away all your previous winnings this makes it almost impossible to rely purely on skill.

The best way to approach gambling is by setting clear boundaries and understanding that it’s mostly entertainment not a source of income even professionals who call themselves bettors face long losing streaks and their success rate isn’t as high as people assume so it’s never wise to risk large amounts of money on a belief that your skills can beat the odds. Always gamble within limits and treat the money as something you can lose without regret that’s how you avoid frustration and keep control once you start chasing losses or thinking you’ve found a sure pattern that’s when gambling becomes dangerous and addictive so no matter how confident you feel always remember the rule gamble only what you can afford to lose.

[Japinat]

Before you decide to increase your bets, consider the potential consequences, what will happen if you hit a losing streak, and how long your deposit and bankroll will last. If you're doing this to start making money through gambling, then of course you can try, but I think you should be prepared to lose the money before you do. I understand that if you're aiming to make money through gambling, your expectations may differ from the actual results.

With that in mind, your bankroll has to be strong enough to handle a long losing streak, because that’s always possible if you’re in this for the long run and making volume bets.

It’s fine to have a goal to make money, but that goal needs to be backed by a real strategy. First is having the right bankroll, then the discipline to manage it. The rest will follow as long as you stick to your plan. Just don’t let emotions take over, that’s the fastest way to ruin everything.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Experience is an important factor in developing ones intuition in playing particularly when the player needs to make decisions quickly. Although theoretical knowledge can give the simplest knowledge, further experience can give more precise perception of patterns, situations, and risks. Something clever to do also is to manage your money because it will make you remain sane during the peak of the game. This management indicates that one has a fantastic sense of self awareness and emotional control, so that the game can be fun, as opposed to something that causes one unnecessary stress.

You said it all:

-Experience.

-Knowledge.

-Money management.

If we combine experience with knowledge and only bet what we can afford to lose, we'll get good results, stay away from addiction, and be able to say we're players who make the most of opportunities.

[Kagaru]

Before you decide to increase your bets, consider the potential consequences, what will happen if you hit a losing streak, and how long your deposit and bankroll will last. If you're doing this to start making money through gambling, then of course you can try, but I think you should be prepared to lose the money before you do. I understand that if you're aiming to make money through gambling, your expectations may differ from the actual results.

To be honest, I think it's important to pause before increasing your bet. Because most people increase their bet only when they're losing and at that time they're not clear headed. Then it seems like playing again might get everything back but most of the time it leads to even bigger losses. I personally believe that if someone wants to increase their bet they first have to mentally accept that they might lose all that money. Without this mental preparation, decisions come from emotion not logic and if the bankroll is small, then it's all over in a few mistakes.

[Smartprofit]

I’ve been playing around with some numbers lately. Let’s say you have a $1,000 bankroll and you’re staking $50 per game. If you can keep a 55% win rate over 100 bets, that’s already around $500 profit. But if you stretch that to 1,000 bets, still at 55%, that turns into roughly $5,000 profit .. without even increasing your bet size.

That’s why I think the real edge comes from volume. If you’re confident in your skill, the more bets you take (with proper bankroll management of course), the more your edge compounds. It’s not about hitting one big parlay, it’s about letting the math play out over time.

Most bettors stop too early or get emotional after a few losses. But if you truly trust your process and your read on the games, the numbers show that consistency and volume are what separate skilled bettors from lucky ones.

In my opinion, this is a very interesting topic for discussion! From a mathematical perspective, you're absolutely right. If your probability of winning in a game of chance is greater than 50% (in your case, 55%), then you (of course) need to play as much as possible. And maximize your bet size. 💫

I remember reading a story about a team of genius American poker players (all of whom were very skilled at math and card memorization). This team, thanks to their skill, actually won at poker with a probability of over 50%. Therefore, their gaming strategy consisted of maximizing bets and the number of games (they played in all sorts of American casinos up and down the coast). 🃏

At the same time, in my opinion, your skill doesn't guarantee you consistent winnings. You may find that your luck runs out.  You may experience a long losing streak. Therefore, in my opinion, you should ask yourself: "Do I have enough money to withstand such a long losing streak and not break?" After all, in practice, many players quit the game simply because they run out of money. 🤷

However, I really like your attitude! Keep it up!

[nara1892]

It's a good idea, but I don't really recommend trying it, as it's gambling after all. It's okay if you want to try, as the calculations are quite reasonable and it's quite possible to make a profit.

But be sure to use capital that you're truly prepared to lose. Consider it a large amount of capital to avoid any pressure during the process or when the results don't match your expectations.
I'm also considering trying it. I'll collect the funds I normally use once a week for gambling, accumulate them over at least two months, and then bet large amounts. This capital calculation is also effective in my opinion, because when calculated, the amount lost remains the same as the amount you allocate each time you play.

[sompitonov]

It's a good idea, but I don't really recommend trying it, as it's gambling after all. It's okay if you want to try, as the calculations are quite reasonable and it's quite possible to make a profit.

But be sure to use capital that you're truly prepared to lose. Consider it a large amount of capital to avoid any pressure during the process or when the results don't match your expectations.
I'm also considering trying it. I'll collect the funds I normally use once a week for gambling, accumulate them over at least two months, and then bet large amounts. This capital calculation is also effective in my opinion, because when calculated, the amount lost remains the same as the amount you allocate each time you play.

I always thought so, but then, after losing a significant portion of my deposit, I began to question whether I was doing everything right. Now I have serious doubts about betting more, as if it's holding me back. But one thing is clear: we should bet more if we understand how we'll win against the casino or other players. For example, if we've developed a strong strategy and have excellent self-control, this will allow us to win more. Of course, it's essential to be a professional, because even they don't always win, but they're moving in the right direction.

[mak013]

That`s why money management is one of main things in sport betting. If your bet size is too big - you can get lose streak that will break your bankroll.
And of course you must have 55% win rate for a long period to talk about it seriously. As for me, only after at least 2-3 months it is possible to talk about win percent. And even after such period it means only that your analyze is good enough and it it possible that you can get long term profit.
PS. We can increase games we analyze and in such way increase number of bets and profit(if we don`t decrease quality of analyze and as result decrease win rate).

This takes real dedication because you’ll end up betting more and you really need solid money management or bankroll management when it comes to sports betting. I actually wonder how many of us here can build a proper bankroll, because for me that’s the first important step to show if we’re serious about trying to be profitable in the long run.

How about you, have you started building yours?

I`ve stopped
The result was 16 profitable months in a row, 62% summary win rate. Profit was various - from $50 to $1650 per month. In my country medium salary is about $500-$600.
It took all my time, all my attention - i combined it with my main job. When i understood that i don`t have time even to talk with my wife - i stopped. It was good enough profit, i don`t sorry about it, my family supposed me.

PS. I`ve started with $1000.

[Ever-young]

Before you decide to increase your bets, consider the potential consequences, what will happen if you hit a losing streak, and how long your deposit and bankroll will last. If you're doing this to start making money through gambling, then of course you can try, but I think you should be prepared to lose the money before you do. I understand that if you're aiming to make money through gambling, your expectations may differ from the actual results.

To be honest, I think it's important to pause before increasing your bet. Because most people increase their bet only when they're losing and at that time they're not clear headed. Then it seems like playing again might get everything back but most of the time it leads to even bigger losses. I personally believe that if someone wants to increase their bet they first have to mentally accept that they might lose all that money. Without this mental preparation, decisions come from emotion not logic and if the bankroll is small, then it's all over in a few mistakes.

The truth is that, it’s really not about the bet itself, the real danger lies in the mindset behind the bet. Some people are just so stuck in the martingale mindset, that every single time they encounter a few losses, their only thinking is to raise the stakes higher so they’ll be able to hit that one win that’ll make them recover their losses, and this is literally the worst time to make any decision because whatever decision you make at this point is basically from a biased and irrational standpoint, which may actually bear quite an opposite result from what you’re actually looking for or expecting.

[Webutxo]

Before you decide to increase your bets, consider the potential consequences, what will happen if you hit a losing streak, and how long your deposit and bankroll will last. If you're doing this to start making money through gambling, then of course you can try, but I think you should be prepared to lose the money before you do. I understand that if you're aiming to make money through gambling, your expectations may differ from the actual results.

It doesn't make any sense to try a bet when the risk is bigger than the reward. At the worst case maybe you should have bet that with 1:2 risk to profit but more of it will be appreciated. If you make a bet, your reward must be more than what you are risking, 3 times the bet you place will help you and make you safe. Some gamblers that are very greedy will make a bet with 1.05 odds and bet a very big money just because the game looks too good, in the end they get disappointed and lose the bet in the end, such bets are to be avoided by all means possible.

[TopTort777]

Does skill really that matters? I can name poker as a game that require skill, but what about rest of the games? Luck and random factor matters only. There might be some skill involved in sports betting, but it depends a lot from the sport. A LOT. I have been MMA fan for many years and still cant make most of my predictions correct. There are some fighters that with high probability win their fights, but there are injuries and lucky punches, something that can not be foreseen.

[xenomorfo]

Well, I understand why you say that the winning rate is random but it doesn't seem right to blame the whole thing on luck. Because honestly there are some people who play regularly and understand the game, can predict what happens in certain situations, and from there create a fairly stable winning rate. Not everyone can do this, but it's not impossible either. But the other side of what you said is also true. People often think that after a few wins they have become skilled but that winning can also be luck. This is where the real mistake is, It is dangerous to assume the future is certain based on winning rate, because the stumbling block comes exactly when someone assumes that their rate will not change and the market or the game does not give anyone such guarantees.

In my opinion, the truth is somewhere in between. It is wrong to say it is all luck and it is also wrong to say it is all skill and the moment someone assumes that their 55 percent winning rate is permanent, that is when their downfall begins. So the discussion is not completely pointless but it must also be accepted that this winning rate can change at any time and if you are not mentally prepared for that, you will suffer.

understanding the game, in a game where luck also counts, I don't think it's something that can be put together in the same sentence

Have you ever heard of gamblers getting rich? Let me know if you find any. I'm really curious to know if you really believe what you say.