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October 31, 2025, 11:07:40 AM
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So yeah, Michael Saylor’s saying Bitcoin could hit $150k by year end, and a lot of people seem to believe it. But come on, the guy holds tons of BTC, of course he’ll be bullish. If the price goes up, he wins big.

I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.
What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?

If you have enough money to invest in bitcoin (not less money). Then you use your wits because he is a big whale. As much money as he has, we have nothing. In other words, if he loses a lot of money, then nothing will come of it. As prophesied it will not be fully fulfilled. A prediction is a prediction that can be made through analysis in various ways. Since he is an experienced person, his predictions can be very accurate. But based on the chart of the current period and the next three to four months, the market may reach 150k. But the current situation says something else. If btc punp for his predictions, he is not alone we all will benefit.

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October 31, 2025, 12:13:22 PM
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What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?
First, the concept of Bitcoin is to trust only yourself and not anyone, even your relatives.
About the market predictions of big holders. You shouldn't trust their market prediction because they don't actually forecast the market, they mostly use their influence power to create FOMO, and they can also abuse their influence power at some point.
This is why we shouldn't trust their prediction, and the second part is that 90% of them dont understand the roles of the market 4 years cycle and the correction that's suppose to happen after it.

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October 31, 2025, 01:13:01 PM
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First, the concept of Bitcoin is to trust only yourself and not anyone, even your relatives.
About the market predictions of big holders. You shouldn't trust their market prediction because they don't actually forecast the market, they mostly use their influence power to create FOMO, and they can also abuse their influence power at some point.
This is why we shouldn't trust their prediction, and the second part is that 90% of them dont understand the roles of the market 4 years cycle and the correction that's suppose to happen after it.

Even if their predictions are based on data and thorough research and analysis in the market, they are still unreliable. Because the market is fundamentally unpredictable and just because they are big investors or good at analysis doesn't mean they can predict the future.

If Michael Saylor could know the future or could predict bitcoin. He doesn't call bitcoin gambling and it took him 9 years to realize the potential of bitcoin and invest in it.

If he could see the future, he would have invested in bitcoin in 2013 and would be one of the richest people in the world today.


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October 31, 2025, 01:32:32 PM
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So yeah, Michael Saylor’s saying Bitcoin could hit $150k by year end, and a lot of people seem to believe it. But come on, the guy holds tons of BTC, of course he’ll be bullish. If the price goes up, he wins big.

I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.

What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?
Michael Saylor is a Bitcoin maximalist and if he says that the price of Bitcoin might reach 150k, that means he has plan to accumulate more Bitcoin that can make more investors to push in money to buy Bitcoin. I don't know if Bitcoin can have it price at 150k but I know anything can happen in the crypto market.

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October 31, 2025, 01:34:06 PM
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So yeah, Michael Saylor’s saying Bitcoin could hit $150k by year end, and a lot of people seem to believe it. But come on, the guy holds tons of BTC, of course he’ll be bullish. If the price goes up, he wins big.

I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.

What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?
That's just speculation, whoever says it they just speculate according to expectations on their personal calculations, no one can really know at the end of the year bitcoin will stop at what price, it could be more than $150k, such as $200k or even more than that too, who knows right?

You don't eat every word they say even though you have a lot of bitcoin, stick to personal research and personal selling targets if you want to sell it, it's a way so that you don't rely on other people's predictions or speculations in your investment, however an investor must have his own principles and a profit picture that can be considered very good for themselves, using people's images is usually very difficult and doesn't even get good momentum in taking profits.
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October 31, 2025, 04:04:32 PM
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I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.
Both marketing and being true are possible. We cannot underestimate his analytical team who backed him to buy this much of bitcoin. Only with a thorough research they might have come down to a decision of hoarding this many bitcoins so I assume that same kind of research team or more powerful than before must be working for him and from that, he may release some predictions time to time to stir up the market. So, I guess that we may trust to whales because they will not work for their own downfall.

we have less than 70 days to the end of this year. I am waiting patiently to see how this will be achieved.
That must be more than enough window for bitcoin market even to test $200k level. So, I am not worried about the time frame for his prediction to be true. Moreover, all such predictors are known for adjusting their target or we do not bother if it happens a week later or two. So, time frame is not a big constrain for any speculation; all are just approximations.

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November 01, 2025, 04:35:44 PM
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What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?
For their own gain, does it mean that Micheal Saylor would hold big chunk of Bitcoin would sell all his Bitcoin at $150k benchmark? We don't know his line of actions on that, to sell or keep hodling.

To my knowledge, Micheal Saylor is not the only one foreseeing $150k price this year. Many forum members has said that, and some would like to sell at that price this year, to reinvest when  next year when the Bitcoin price declines, which is a good idea.

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November 01, 2025, 09:42:20 PM
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Michael Saylor is a Bitcoin maximalist and if he says that the price of Bitcoin might reach 150k, that means he has plan to accumulate more Bitcoin that can make more investors to push in money to buy Bitcoin. I don't know if Bitcoin can have it price at 150k but I know anything can happen in the crypto market.
If someone can buy bitcoin which will pump bitcoin price to some certain price, and the same person can dump bitcoin price to a certain amount, then that means bitcoin price is being controlled. You should know bitcoin cant be controlled by any one so don’t think anyone will be buying bitcoin until it attains a particular price. We are definitely going to see bitcoin at $150k, and it’s even going to go higher, but nobody knows when bitcoin price is going to achieve that, if any influencer or anyone tells you when bitcoin will hit the price, then you should know that the person is just deceiving you.

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November 01, 2025, 10:02:29 PM
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What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?
It is true that if the price of Bitcoin increases, they will profit more. Who invest in Bitcoin will try to profit from it. Michael Saylor himself believes and understands that Bitcoin will be in high demand very soon, which is why he started investing as institutional investors. If there was such an expectation for a small profit, he would have sold much earlier. Everyone tries to trade according to their needs. I think what Saylor says about Bitcoin is logical.

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November 02, 2025, 11:26:18 AM
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Michael Saylor is a Bitcoin maximalist and if he says that the price of Bitcoin might reach 150k, that means he has plan to accumulate more Bitcoin that can make more investors to push in money to buy Bitcoin. I don't know if Bitcoin can have it price at 150k but I know anything can happen in the crypto market.
If someone can buy bitcoin which will pump bitcoin price to some certain price, and the same person can dump bitcoin price to a certain amount, then that means bitcoin price is being controlled. You should know bitcoin cant be controlled by any one so don’t think anyone will be buying bitcoin until it attains a particular price. We are definitely going to see bitcoin at $150k, and it’s even going to go higher, but nobody knows when bitcoin price is going to achieve that, if any influencer or anyone tells you when bitcoin will hit the price, then you should know that the person is just deceiving you.
Michael Saylor has become one of the loudest voices in the Bitcoin world and every time he makes a prediction people tend to react but it’s important to remember that he’s a businessman first and his statements often serve strategic purposes when he talks about Bitcoin going to 150k or beyond he’s not just making a prediction he’s fueling confidence in an asset his company holds a huge amount of. Saylor’s bullish stance influences sentiment but doesn’t necessarily control the market no one person can fully dictate Bitcoin’s price since it operates on a global network of millions of traders institutions and retail investors however big players like him can temporarily sway momentum through announcements or large purchases especially when public excitement and fear of missing out are high.

Bitcoin will likely reach 150k someday but as always timing is the hardest part to predict it could happen next year or take several cycles what truly matters is the long term adoption and growing demand against a fixed supply 21 million coins in the end no influencer or corporation can decide when the next breakout happens the market moves collectively through thousands of independent decisions driven by belief regulation and macroeconomic trends.

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November 02, 2025, 04:56:23 PM
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I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.

What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?

you know, Sailor always speaks optimistically. Because, he has not really lost much confidence in Bitcoin. When your company is run by BTC, every good news brings you financial gain, right? Ha ha!  However, to be honest, this persons faith is completely intact. He has been conveying the same message since the price of Bitcoin was below 20K. He decided to buy even when others were fleeing the market in fear.

So, in my opinion, it is a matter of conviction & self interest. However, shortterm fluctuations are not completely predictable, not even for Sailor. I usually listen to such comments &  accumulate my own sats. Real basis is more valuable than predictions. So lets move forward patiently, dude !

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November 03, 2025, 12:47:28 PM
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So yeah, Michael Saylor’s saying Bitcoin could hit $150k by year end, and a lot of people seem to believe it. But come on, the guy holds tons of BTC, of course he’ll be bullish. If the price goes up, he wins big.

I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.

What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?

We know that most investors are very knowledgeable and skilled and have a lot of experience. We have seen in the past that many have made good predictions and all those predictions have been correct, so we can hope that the predictions that the big investors who are currently there are more likely to be correct. We have already seen that the price of Bitcoin has revealed its highest high in 2025 and we are still optimistic that the market will go higher even though the market has fallen a lot at the moment. However, looking at the current market situation, it seems that maybe good results can be expected in the market by the middle of this month. However, I think that it may not be possible to touch the Bitcoin market $150k by the end of 2025, the amount of volatility we are currently seeing in the market is a little less likely.

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So yeah, Michael Saylor’s saying Bitcoin could hit $150k by year end, and a lot of people seem to believe it. But come on, the guy holds tons of BTC, of course he’ll be bullish. If the price goes up, he wins big.

I’m not saying he’s lying, but you gotta wonder, is this real conviction or just self-interest? Feels like every time big names talk bullish, it’s also good marketing for them.

What do you think, are these predictions meant to inform us, or to hype the market for their own bag?

We know that most investors are very knowledgeable and skilled and have a lot of experience. We have seen in the past that many have made good predictions and all those predictions have been correct, so we can hope that the predictions that the big investors who are currently there are more likely to be correct. We have already seen that the price of Bitcoin has revealed its highest high in 2025 and we are still optimistic that the market will go higher even though the market has fallen a lot at the moment. However, looking at the current market situation, it seems that maybe good results can be expected in the market by the middle of this month. However, I think that it may not be possible to touch the Bitcoin market $150k by the end of 2025, the amount of volatility we are currently seeing in the market is a little less likely.

Bitcoin is volatile and we can't predict sometimes and comes true, even the big investors they will get the time they will predict and fail so the best thing to do is to trust what you are doing and set your target and wait for your profit because if you will think you will be waiting for advice when you have understood how bitcoin goes and still you think the people that are in the investment will have experience more then you and you will wait for there advice first before you invest you can be missing some opportunities because the more you wait the more the prices can be increasing and lose your chances of getting better profit. In my opinion I can't wait for know one to give me advice on when to invest in bitcoin, because they is not actual day to invest in bitcoin and I can get profit and lose but the winning is more higher then lose if you can leave it for the long term.

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November 07, 2025, 08:35:29 PM
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IMHO, there is no difference if someone is a huge holder or not. Because if it's with predictions, we're all just the same because it's all about what we think of Bitcoin based on the factors that we have considered with those predictions.

And there are predictions that doesn't even need to support any technical factors as long as they're giving any price.

They're mere guesses and thoughts of how much it will be in the future so, it's your choice if you'd trust them or not.

Because I think that most of us just have the same price predictions and they're high.

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November 07, 2025, 09:34:59 PM
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No prediction is completely correct, all predictions are acknowledged to have uncertainties. No person or group of people can determine the exact figure for the future price of bitcoin, even if they are highly influential people. Bitcoin is traded freely 24/7 worldwide, market manipulation can occur, but it cannot determine the exact price. The future is something that cannot be seen, so predictions are still predictions even if their purpose is to reduce uncertainty.

Influential people's predictions may trigger the interest of other big investors to buy bitcoin, this will push the price higher due to increased demand, but the exact price cannot be predicted. If someone could predict correctly without error, then they would not have sold at $100k when bitcoin hit its ATH at $126k.
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November 07, 2025, 11:47:51 PM
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When you make an investment, don't trust anyone. Always do your own research. Famous figures can manipulate you for their own interests. It's not just about people saying Bitcoin will rise or fall, you should ignore anyone who talks like that about any investment instrument. Just follow your own path. Otherwise, you'll keep blaming others for your bad investment decisions instead of seeing the problem within yourself. No one give away free money.


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Never trust anyone and never let others control your financial decisions when it comes to investing, because when prices don't go as they say they will, you are the one who will suffer the losses, and of course they won't care about that.

When a bull run occurs and prices continue to rise, setting new all-time highs and continuing to do so over a certain period of time, everyone will try to take advantage of this momentum, and many will offer class sales, paid signals, or paid education, even though all of this is available for free if you are willing to take the time to find out for yourself.

If you are an investor, just buy using one of the best methods available, which almost all investors use: the DCA method.
So, even if prices fall, you don't have to worry too much because your focus is on the long term, and you can be sure that in the future, Bitcoin prices will continue to rise as adoption becomes more widespread and more institutions continue to make Bitcoin one of their assets, not to mention the government's agenda to make Bitcoin a reserve currency.

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November 08, 2025, 02:51:50 AM
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Believe or not, big holder just take care about profitable only and don't make your self as victim when the big holder said to hold but most of them sell bitcoin. Right now if want earn much profit by investing in bitcoin adopting this way "SELL AT GOOD NEWS AND BUY AT BAD NEWS", don't care who ever recommended as top big holder, big whales or many top people always prefer profitable firstly when investing in bitcoin.
I see many time big holder tell us to hold or save bitcoin and make many people believing them buy back bitcoin, just few hours later after bitcoin increasing up most of top big holder selling their bitcoin and make many holder panic to sell at lower price.

You can make the big holder as reference to buy bitcoin but never fully trust with them have self-interest to sell bitcoin at higher price and buy back later at lower price.


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Never trust anyone and never let others control your financial decisions when it comes to investing, because when prices don't go as they say they will, you are the one who will suffer the losses, and of course they won't care about that.

When a bull run occurs and prices continue to rise, setting new all-time highs and continuing to do so over a certain period of time, everyone will try to take advantage of this momentum, and many will offer class sales, paid signals, or paid education, even though all of this is available for free if you are willing to take the time to find out for yourself.

If you are an investor, just buy using one of the best methods available, which almost all investors use: the DCA method.
So, even if prices fall, you don't have to worry too much because your focus is on the long term, and you can be sure that in the future, Bitcoin prices will continue to rise as adoption becomes more widespread and more institutions continue to make Bitcoin one of their assets, not to mention the government's agenda to make Bitcoin a reserve currency.
Never trust anyone completely when it comes to your money and never let someone else make your investment decisions because at the end of the day when things go wrong and prices drop it’s you who takes the loss not them they won’t care about how much you lose because they already got what they wanted maybe attention maybe fees or just the satisfaction of being followed.

During a bull run when everything looks green and prices keep breaking new all time highs that’s when everyone suddenly becomes an expert you’ll see people selling courses giving paid signals and promoting paid groups it’s all noise most of that information is already out there for free if you just take time to learn and do your own research people get blinded by the hype and forget that easy advice during a bull run doesn’t mean guaranteed success. If you really want to invest in a smart way use the DCA method dollar cost averaging it’s simple and effective for both new and experienced investors instead of trying to time the market or chase the perfect entry you just buy a fixed amount regularly whether the price is high or low over time it smooths out your cost and builds your position steadily.
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