PATIENCE IS NOT ENOUGH...

[aylabadia05]

With a 5% drop in 24 hours from $92,000, this data shows that a significant amount of assets have been "lost" from the crypto market cap, a sign that anything can happen. Bitcoin's monthly returns since October, November, and possibly December 2025 are similar to those of 2018.

The range of the dump is not the same as the 2018 market. The same thing applies to the market correction that always happens with the halving effect market, and I won't be surprised if the exact thing happens with market blood that will happen next year.

It's just the monthly Bitcoin returns for October, November and December 2018 that display a red column with a minus percentage instead of a plus. The October and November 2025 that we have passed are also colored red and begin with a red box at the beginning of December.
So now, an hour ago, the graph was perpendicularly upwards green, after several days there was also the formation of a straight downward red line.
We won't be surprised, but we can't be sure whether those out there will be the same in facing it.

[serjent05]

The point here is that investors should not be too excited about high returns because bitcoin is a speculative asset and is subjected to unpredictable price fluctuations.

Isn't this the reason why investors flocking into Bitcoin?  Due to unpredictable price fluctuation, investors are excited about the possibility of high returns. No one would expect anything if the price fluctuation is predictable.

in the next ten years bitcoin might not be like it was in the past ten years and it might not be guaranteed to get you rich, but some investors treat it like that which will be very risky to your emotional health if it dos does not deliver the way you expect in years to come.

This is just an assumption and not set in stone yet, so we really cannot tell investors that they are wrong and tell them that they should do this and that. Every investment has their own risk, and the possibility of disappointment is always there, what matter is that we should be ready to whatever the result of our investment is and void unrealistic expectations.

[SOKO-DEKE]

The point here is that investors should not be too excited about high returns because bitcoin is a speculative asset and is subjected to unpredictable price fluctuations. in the next ten years bitcoin might not be like it was in the past ten years and it might not be guaranteed to get you rich, but some investors treat it like that which will be very risky to your emotional health if it dos does not deliver the way you expect in years to come.

Yes, I agree with your point that investors expectations should not be too high for their Bitcoin investment. There will always be some investors who expect very high profits from their Bitcoin investment like the profit those pass ten years ago.It is possible for Bitcoin to give reasonable profits, but if someone expects too much and it doesn’t happen, it will feel disappointing.So it is better for any investor to have lower expectations, because Bitcoin is an unpredictable and it can surprise investors in any form either positive or negative. When an investor expectations are normal,whatever happens in the future will not affected Infact much.it is high expectations that often make people invest wrongly, such as using money that they are not supposed to use for investing in Bitcoin.

[Faisal2202]

The point here is that investors should not be too excited about high returns because bitcoin is a speculative asset and is subjected to unpredictable price fluctuations. in the next ten years bitcoin might not be like it was in the past ten years and it might not be guaranteed to get you rich, but some investors treat it like that which will be very risky to your emotional health if it dos does not deliver the way you expect in years to come.

Can't agree more with you on this, as some new investors are getting obsessed with it, as I have learned only one thing is that if you want to be an investor, don't learn about trading, learn about investing, how can you be a holder, and how can you bear the risk and have patience?

Although some stubborn like me can learn these things on the way if they want as learning all before is not necassary but the best practice is to not waste it, instead, learn from it and grow from it.

In short, even investing looks easy to traders but it is not.

[Hypnosis00]

If you expect higher returns from bitcoin, that is because you know your investment well, you know how capable bitcoin is to provide you significant profits in the future. That is faith, that no matter how speculative and volatile bitcoin is, you still believe that you will end up highly profitable, because that's also how early successful investors have described bitcoin.

Yes, patience may not be enough, but with faith and trust into bitcoin, everything is possible. You may lose at times, but as long as quitting is not your option, you will always be profitable in the end, no matter how the future with bitcoin may like.

[suzanne5223]

With a 5% drop in 24 hours from $92,000, this data shows that a significant amount of assets have been "lost" from the crypto market cap, a sign that anything can happen. Bitcoin's monthly returns since October, November, and possibly December 2025 are similar to those of 2018.

The range of the dump is not the same as the 2018 market. The same thing applies to the market correction that always happens with the halving effect market, and I won't be surprised if the exact thing happens with market blood that will happen next year.

It's just the monthly Bitcoin returns for October, November and December 2018 that display a red column with a minus percentage instead of a plus. The October and November 2025 that we have passed are also colored red and begin with a red box at the beginning of December.
So now, an hour ago, the graph was perpendicularly upwards green, after several days there was also the formation of a straight downward red line.
We won't be surprised, but we can't be sure whether those out there will be the same in facing it.

Technically, what we're going to face in the last Q4 is undecided, and for the record, the major players in this current market are the institutional investors who will definitely want to get their share of the Bitcoin market goodies. An example is what Trump did weeks ago when he dump his BTC holding and alot of people are saying his family made $1billion through, so I wont be surprise if the institutional investors follow the same route which is why I said the upcoming total market correction and bloodbath wont be like the previous market we have experienced which you also said "we can't be sure whether those out there will be the same".

[Ayers]

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I have to be honest with myself and agree with you, for inas much as we love bitcoin and desire for it to continue to grow both in popularity, acceptance and value(price), there is definitely that value where if it reaches, it can't go any further but either retrace or become stable there with little or minor sideways movement from time to time..

But have we reached that level now, especially wit the level of acceptance and the amount of investments coming in from various institutions and top businesses and body in the financial sector? Well, I will answer No, because when I look at assets like gold for example, it gives me feeling that there definitely still a long way for bitcoin to go, but then as you said, there is that level where if Bitcoin reaches, investing in it can't make one rich again, at that time, what becomes best to do is trade for daily small profits as the price experiences some minor rising and falling.

You are right and being honest with your assertions here. As much as we love bitcoin and we want the price to keep going higher and higher forever but the truth of the case is that a day will come when it will reach a very big amount where it cannot climb up any further and it will just stay within a range like that moving only small small up and down like gold price does now.

But I'm also looking at the current worth of bitcoin that is about 1.7 trillion dollars in total while gold is worth more than 18 trillion dollars. What this means is that bitcoin is still far small in comparison with gold meaning there is still room for bitcoin to grow considering that it is not the highest growth so far. That is where we are still very hopeful about its growth including other things we did not factor into.

Bitcoin price will increase forever if fiat currencies continue to lose value and demand for bitcoin always increases. But like gold, its price will gradually become less volatile and its returns will also gradually decrease, it will never stabilize.

Bitcoin's potential remains, as adoption is still ongoing, but I don't think it's right to compare it to gold and expect it to be on par. Gold is different because the demand for it is so large and diverse from investment, jewelry, reserves to industrial applications. While bitcoin is just an online investment, how can it compete with gold in terms of capitalization and demand?

Personally I still invest in bitcoin because it can still bring good returns, especially if we know how to take advantage of its volatility. However, I would not compare them and do not expect bitcoin to be on par with gold.

[laijsica]

If you expect higher returns from bitcoin, that is because you know your investment well, you know how capable bitcoin is to provide you significant profits in the future. That is faith, that no matter how speculative and volatile bitcoin is, you still believe that you will end up highly profitable, because that's also how early successful investors have described bitcoin.

Yes, patience may not be enough, but with faith and trust into bitcoin, everything is possible. You may lose at times, but as long as quitting is not your option, you will always be profitable in the end, no matter how the future with bitcoin may like.

It is not clear how you can expect high returns if you have faith and trust in Bitcoin without patience. If a Bitcoin investor's real weapon is a discretionary income/lump sum followed by a long term patience and continuous efforts to accumulate Bitcoin. If you gain faith and trust by being influenced by others without analyzing Bitcoin, then you will have the possibility of investing your entire wealth blindly. Bitcoin is a risky investment. Initially you should know about this and enter the investment field accordingly. Investors invest based on assumptions about the value of Bitcoin, it is not a sure thing that you will definitely benefit. But the continuity of long term accumulation with patience will help you in getting high profits.

[Rustam Meraj]

You are quite right that Bitcoin market has now grown up with joining of big companies and regulated products such as ETFs, which means that huge, fast profits of early investors will not happen again. This maturity helps make market steadier and make it more effective, and links price of Bitcoin to world economy, which takes away chance of huge, uncontrolled profits. So, investors should stop to think of Bitcoin as certain way to get rich just because of its historical track record and invest with real expectations, with its long term goal in mind and not with unreal, short term gains that may harm their emotional health.

[ancafe]

The point here is that investors should not be too excited about high returns because bitcoin is a speculative asset and is subjected to unpredictable price fluctuations. in the next ten years bitcoin might not be like it was in the past ten years and it might not be guaranteed to get you rich, but some investors treat it like that which will be very risky to your emotional health if it dos does not deliver the way you expect in years to come.

You must be willing to take risks to achieve financial well-being, and without that courage, you won't have a chance at financial freedom. All activities involving money have risks, but how you manage those risks will maximize your potential. Business also carries a high level of risk if your business doesn't grow, and in my opinion, it's no different for other activities that involve money as the basic capital for building financial freedom. Bitcoin is quite volatile, but it's more of a short-term thing because market movements can change so quickly.

When you hold it for the long term, your investment will grow as you desire. Enthusiasm and optimism are important so that we will have the confidence to build our finances, but what needs to be built is how to understand something that we are doing correctly so that we are involved in it because of knowledge, not because we see the conditions of other people who have succeeded.

[NewRanger]

It is not clear how you can expect high returns if you have faith and trust in Bitcoin without patience. If a Bitcoin investor's real weapon is a discretionary income/lump sum followed by a long term patience and continuous efforts to accumulate Bitcoin. If you gain faith and trust by being influenced by others without analyzing Bitcoin, then you will have the possibility of investing your entire wealth blindly. Bitcoin is a risky investment. Initially you should know about this and enter the investment field accordingly. Investors invest based on assumptions about the value of Bitcoin, it is not a sure thing that you will definitely benefit. But the continuity of long term accumulation with patience will help you in getting high profits.

It's probably reasonable to say that faith and trust in Bitcoin must be accompanied by patience, because without it, it will be slow, if not impossible, to reach the point you mentioned above, where we can expect high returns. However, even though the price has risen overnight, market participants are currently concerned about price movements, which can be quite tedious. Furthermore, they must also consider several other factors beyond their control, such as global events and other factors.

Risk is an integral part of cryptocurrency investment, and it's true that we must be aware of it and learn how to properly select and manage it to ensure our investments grow smoothly, allowing us to seize opportunities by trading potential coins.

[Asuspawer09]

I mean you could pretty much make a lot of profit in a lot of ways when in comes to Bitcoin investment and in my experience with a lot of patience you could easily make a profit easily if you are just willing to put the patience of investing for actual long term, For sure with this kind of market this is kind normal in my experience and I kinda predicted already that this is going to happened since the 50k$ I mean even lower Im already accumulating a lot of Bitcoin so, Im already expecting the market to drop but it was really unexpected to skyrocket in the 126k$ luckily I get the hunch to sold most of the Bitcoin for sure, and luckily I was able to predic the market peak.

Still even though we are seeing the market price skyrocket at this moment we should always expect the worse, that is why Im always ready to sell at any moment position my self early in the market so that I could sell at any moment, not just mean knowing that the market could crash anytime and not just expecting that the market is just gonna skyrocket to a million at any moment.

[aylabadia05]

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Technically, what we're going to face in the last Q4 is undecided, and for the record, the major players in this current market are the institutional investors who will definitely want to get their share of the Bitcoin market goodies. An example is what Trump did weeks ago when he dump his BTC holding and alot of people are saying his family made $1billion through, so I wont be surprise if the institutional investors follow the same route which is why I said the upcoming total market correction and bloodbath wont be like the previous market we have experienced which you also said "we can't be sure whether those out there will be the same".

I also know how high the amount of assets sold is, which results in a sudden drop in prices.
In business, owners of large capital are always in a winning position. They can carry out scenarios with the capital they have. Whales do it in almost all businesses and we shouldn't be surprised like someone who just knows the market game.

Due to the action of increasing high selling power as you mentioned, for example, institutional investors, there are certain parties who emphasize selling numbers so that the selling percentage is no longer dominated, which results in prices recovering even though this is only a short-term condition.

[Crypt0Gore]

For years bitcoin performance has captivated investors, painting the picture of an unstoppable asset, but an in-dept look at the data of the cryptocurrency market reveals a brutal reality, bitcoin future performance might not mirror the past. The acronical profits enjoyed by the early investors operating in an immature market has fundamentally changed,

Today the bitcoin market has reached a level of structural maturity that reduces the like hood of the initial incredible returns made by the early investors in btc, I considered the market mature because of the increase in investment by large institutions and regulated products like ETFs, with macroeconomic factors which reduce the the potential for huge profits for today's investors, this means relying on bitcoins unpredictable volatility for guaranteed profits can be considered as a gamble.

The point here is that investors should not be too excited about high returns because bitcoin is a speculative asset and is subjected to unpredictable price fluctuations. in the next ten years bitcoin might not be like it was in the past ten years and it might not be guaranteed to get you rich, but some investors treat it like that which will be very risky to your emotional health if it dos does not deliver the way you expect in years to come.

I know what you are trying to say but I don't think we are there yet, maybe when Bitcoin is over 500k then it will start looking impossible to make 6x gains from holding Bitcoin for few years, anything you hear from anyone or any analyst are simply fud. I could remember that many people repeated what you just said in the past, since $1,500 BTC many have been calling it overpriced, when we got to 69k on 2021 it felt like its impossible to reach a 100k, to me this is just a normal feeling for people who don't really understand the scarcity design of Bitcoin.

[Findingnemo]

We should not expect the same amount of growth consistently with Bitcoin but at the same time, when the price is getting expensive, the ordinary people might not see bitcoin as a feasible option because they will see the price tag of the whole bitcoin instead of calculating how much they can buy with the amount they have.

However we are still early, I doubt not even 10% of the world population got bitcoin under their name so we still got chance to end up in the top 10% if not 1%.

[~speedx~]

Your words did not make sense to me. Do you not know much about bitcoin? Or something else? How can you say that investing in it is gambling on the future? And those who have invested in bitcoin have to adapt to its ups and downs. Investing in bitcoin must be dealt with patience. You cannot become restless by investing in bitcoin. You have to wait patiently for its unexpected results. And every investor has to be patient and have the mentality of taking risks while investing.

[cr1776]

The market is not mature.  If it is used to protect oneself from the ravages of fiat devaluation and control by authoritarians around the world (communist, fascist, socialist etc) there are a few more orders of magnitude growth left in fiat terms.  Patience is always a good thing with regard to bitcoin.

[AGogi2003]

I mean you could pretty much make a lot of profit in a lot of ways when in comes to Bitcoin investment and in my experience with a lot of patience you could easily make a profit easily if you are just willing to put the patience of investing for actual long term, For sure with this kind of market this is kind normal in my experience and I kinda predicted already that this is going to happened since the 50k$ I mean even lower Im already accumulating a lot of Bitcoin so, Im already expecting the market to drop but it was really unexpected to skyrocket in the 126k$ luckily I get the hunch to sold most of the Bitcoin for sure, and luckily I was able to predic the market peak.

Still even though we are seeing the market price skyrocket at this moment we should always expect the worse, that is why Im always ready to sell at any moment position my self early in the market so that I could sell at any moment, not just mean knowing that the market could crash anytime and not just expecting that the market is just gonna skyrocket to a million at any moment.

Patient is everything if you are patient in anything you are doing you will surely achieve your goals one day bitcoin investment deal with patient and if you don't get that you will not really get what you need in bitcoin because is king term investment and if you didn't have the patience how can you invest for the long term and wait for profit. So in my own view patient is everything in term of business or investment he deal with that.

Believe and patience can make you achieve your goals on what you're doing if is legit. Bitcoin is among the best investment and if you are someone that have knowledge about it, the only thing for you is to invest for long term and set your target and wait for the profit. Some people that are not patient are scared to lose there funds that is why anytime the price deep they will try to sell fast so that they won't lose all there funds, and Bitcoin is different from other coin to more in deep the more he will raise.

[suzanne5223]

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Technically, what we're going to face in the last Q4 is undecided, and for the record, the major players in this current market are the institutional investors who will definitely want to get their share of the Bitcoin market goodies. An example is what Trump did weeks ago when he dump his BTC holding and alot of people are saying his family made $1billion through, so I wont be surprise if the institutional investors follow the same route which is why I said the upcoming total market correction and bloodbath wont be like the previous market we have experienced which you also said "we can't be sure whether those out there will be the same".

I also know how high the amount of assets sold is, which results in a sudden drop in prices.
In business, owners of large capital are always in a winning position. They can carry out scenarios with the capital they have. Whales do it in almost all businesses and we shouldn't be surprised like someone who just knows the market game.

Due to the action of increasing high selling power as you mentioned, for example, institutional investors, there are certain parties who emphasize selling numbers so that the selling percentage is no longer dominated, which results in prices recovering even though this is only a short-term condition.

Yeah, there may be some parties who emphasized on the selling level of Bitcoin, but in the current market, I think it is too early for us to see a strong stance on it due to the late entry of the institutional investors in the Bitcoin market. They also want to make some money first before they can move toward such a decision.
This reminds me of when Michael Saylor said the battle begins in the early days of November, which I believe he was talking about the sell off that's going to happen in the 2 months of Q4.

[GiftedMAN]

Believe and patience can make you achieve your goals on what you're doing if is legit. Bitcoin is among the best investment and if you are someone that have knowledge about it, the only thing for you is to invest for long term and set your target and wait for the profit. Some people that are not patient are scared to lose there funds that is why anytime the price deep they will try to sell fast so that they won't lose all there funds, and Bitcoin is different from other coin to more in deep the more he will raise.

For someone who knows the right things to invest in it's possible to believe while you have patience for your investment to yield to you, for someone who understands Bitcoin and invested for a long term be best thing you could think of is to do other things and get other means of making money while you wait patiently for the swt time when you will sell your Bitcoin to make good profit for yourself. But for someone who knows nothing and has no plans having patience will do you no good.