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October 31, 2025, 12:04:48 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?

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October 31, 2025, 12:10:35 AM
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They're still different outcomes. I prefer betting on team totals and goals scored more than betting on a team to win (I just think it's a more interesting pick).

It's possible you lose both but the chance you lose both is different from the chance one wins. A lot of games can finish 1-0 1-2 etc and you'd still get the win for the first goal scored either way if your team goals bet was over 1.
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October 31, 2025, 12:33:16 AM
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I agree with the comment above. They're two different outcomes. Team total doesn't presume winning or losing. There are teams which are more or less expected to produce high scores whether winning or losing. In the NBA, for example, there are teams full of players who could easily hit shots from downtown. There are also fast-paced teams. You'd also expect them to produce high points. Whether they win or lose would primarily depend on their opponents.

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October 31, 2025, 12:44:03 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?

This its a theory that make sense, yes... because if the team plays well enough to cover the spread, then it is likely they will also be able to cross the points line. But the problem I see here is another... you agree that both are highly correlated, right? So, than you are not diversifying your risk, but doubling your exposure to the one same game scenario.

In my opinion, you should try to find bets that complement a each other at the same game but without depending the same outcome... for example: betting on a teams victory and also on the total number of goals of the game, or a draw and both teams score, or one team wins and a specific player scores, or number of yellow cards, fouls, etc... there are so many factors that you can bet on without depending on them... this way you to you diversify bets in the same game and reduce the risk.

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October 31, 2025, 12:59:03 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
When you put up a bet like this, it's like placing the same bet, when or if one loses, the other also lose, you have no chance of winning the other one to atleast, recover your money and so.
So this type of betting makes no sense to me, the only time you can be lucky is if or when you win, you possibly get a double win instead of one, but to be honest wit you, I will still prefer to not to place any bet on different predictions that feels like it's one or the same.

And that aside, I've not actually fully understand what you mean though, I am just stating my personal thought based on the little I was able to grab.
I will want to believe that a team's total can't always be the same as the same team's cover the spread (or whatever it's generally referred to as), this may have coincidentally appeared to been the same or looked like they are the same.
The best way to find this out is to test run this with a small amount of money, it could be cents, the minimum amount of money the casino accepts for a bet, if you do this 2 to three times, and both are the same, then maybe you are correct and this is something interested gamblers can take advantage of if really they are willing to take the risk.

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October 31, 2025, 02:34:51 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?

Ive heard of this being done with sports betting before, honestly though I think the whole purpose was laundering money though lol. Anyways to me it feels like it would just be a complete wash because either one or the other will lose and wouldn't the pay out be the dame and it be break even pretty much

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October 31, 2025, 03:10:57 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.
Yeah sure they look alike but if you're convinced of a favorites performance, it feels like a double advantage to pick it and also very on their spreads but I always like to keep it simple, which is being on their spreads alone. In that case of they cover the spreads I've win my bet against the team covering the spreads and not end up winning the match.

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both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
Yes we're doubling the risk although it promises a higher reward, I wouldn't diversify on my picks still for the same team, I rather go for another team that suits such diversification of picks, if I bet on a point spread for a single match, that's the only selection I'll go for in that match.

 
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Not smart at all. If you really want to win, just pick one - either the point spread or the team total. If you want to have more bets, spread them across different games instead. Think about it, it’s not really cool if you bet on the spread and win, but then lose on the team total. That’s just wasted effort. We gamblers don’t like breaking even , we either want to win or lose, not end up stuck in the middle.

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October 31, 2025, 05:30:55 AM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?

It's simple as that, it's like betting on the same outcome twice, it might be better even to bet on the option that has better odds than betting it twice. If you lose it you'll lose both. You neither lessen the risk nor double as the risk would be exactly the same just the sum of amount greater. Even betting on different teams would not be good as one lose would almost cancel out other. It would be better to bet on another team playing another game that you believe would win, this way you are really diversifying your risks.

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If I'm trying to look for more value I would go for this combo, it's usually up to 2 odds or more but the mistake some bettors make is that they combine a lot of games with this option, this is highly risky so if you consider betting on it you should go for singles only, this is going 5o reduce the risks...although this doesn't mean that profit is guaranteed when using this strategy but its a safer betting system


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Of course, they can go hand in hand since you’re looking at both the team’s offense and defense before deciding if they can win the game. For example, in most of their wins, their team total usually goes over,( we can check the stats for that) and the opposite happens when they lose.

If you’re not comfortable with that, you can just pick one option, either the point spread or the team total.

Honestly, I find it harder to win betting on team totals, so I prefer point spreads.
For me, it’s better to focus on the market where you have a higher win rate.

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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
It mostly depends on gamblers style. I make just one bet on one event, the only difference is that i can choose total before the match if odds really good and such result seems good enough in analyze. Someone can try to increase profit making both bets.
As for me - it is additional risk, but i`m very careful gambler, it is not the only right way in betting.
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So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
Like I always do and say, play safe by going against your preferred team or normal predictions so you don't loss everything instead of you loss you win, let say you play a team point spread and total play the opposite team same things, if you're first prediction doesn't go your way the second will, and that I call double chancing every game. But as you explained earlier guys are only lossing to themselves betting on the team and still going with the same team on different patterns of bet.

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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
We have to remember that there are no strategies or tricks in gambling, so I don't think there is a smart betting category, which increases the chances of winning by gambling.
I have said this many times before in discussions on many topics, and I will say the same thing again: the smartness and good idea when it comes to gambling is that when gambling, one should only use as much funds as the gambler can afford to lose.  However, when we bet on sports, having knowledge about sports increases our influence to some extent.

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They're still different outcomes. I prefer betting on team totals and goals scored more than betting on a team to win (I just think it's a more interesting pick).

It's possible you lose both but the chance you lose both is different from the chance one wins. A lot of games can finish 1-0 1-2 etc and you'd still get the win for the first goal scored either way if your team goals bet was over 1.
Same applies to me and in most cases, I prefer to bet on the total outcome of the game rather than bet for just a team especially when it comes to goals.
I agree with you that, the chances are different but I think betting on them separately will also increase the chances of winning over losing.
If I'm trying to look for more value I would go for this combo, it's usually up to 2 odds or more but the mistake some bettors make is that they combine a lot of games with this option, this is highly risky so if you consider betting on it you should go for singles only, this is going 5o reduce the risks...although this doesn't mean that profit is guaranteed when using this strategy but its a safer betting system,

Nothing is guaranteed in gambling and yes I agree with you that, one mistake bettors make is combining a lot of other games with this option while betting which is risky but regardless, nothing is guaranteed.
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?

Well these are two completely different metrics and people have a tendency to think they're smarter than they actually are. The only way to prove you know what you're doing would be to record and track your accuracy over a long time frame, if you can achieve consistent win results when combining these two bets over a year or two, then you've probably got some skill. Besides that, it's just another multibet and they are the most profitable bets for bookmakers, because they usually reduce odds and people overestimate their talent compared to the automated data analysis that's in use. One way to look at it is - unless you're getting a much greater return on investment, you're probably just increasing the risk that one or both options will fail.

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I prefer to dedicate my time to basic bets, instead of those types of bets that can confuse you and give false hope. By "basic" I mean the simple bet of win, lose, or draw, for example, in soccer, betting on several matches, three or four, rather than trying to choose who scores more or less, who scores first, etc. That only adds a level of difficulty to the bet instead of helping you in any way. And I know that with these combined bets you can win more money, but that's only because the difficulty of winning has increased.

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October 31, 2025, 09:13:31 PM
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I’ve been noticing something in sports betting, when you bet on a certain team and also take their team total, it often feels like they go hand in hand.

For example, if you bet on a team to cover the spread (ATS), you probably believe they’ll control the pace and score high. But when that team ends up losing the game or not covering, their team total usually misses too.

So it makes me wonde, is it really a good idea to bet on both at the same time? Or are we just doubling the same risk without realizing it?
for me it is a choice and they in gambling anything can happen you might bet for both of them and they work out to you today why another day or next time you might bet for both and it will fail you so that is how gambling has been operating and that is why they says that the gambling does not have any quarantee and you are not sure if you win in gambling or not, and that is another way for you to know that you need to gamble with what you have and what you can afford to lose because you can gamble and lose everything and you were not expecting it to lose it so it's another thing that causes a trauma and the depression in the gambling, so all this we need an adequate correction so that we shall not regret whenever we make our choice wrongly or make our choice correctly and the nobody should be blamed about it if the thing goes wrongly

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Whichever you prefer to bet for, if you can afford to take double risk then that's how you're going to win the game. But if you're already okay with team picks and the outcome of the match, that's all you have to bet for than including the team totals. Because when I think that a game that I am following isn't that good at all with the favorite and the odds are low, it's best to pick on the totals for me and the other props that are available on that game. It makes betting easier if there are other choices when you don't feel the odds are in favor of the team in the money line.


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There's always a risk of losing, and playing and supporting your chosen team in a single way is much more enjoyable than calculating every moment. It's better to watch the game and support your favorite club; that's how you enjoy the bets you make. The more you look for loopholes, the more you'll lose.

 
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