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November 04, 2025, 04:39:27 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2025, 03:26:01 AM by JollyGood
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I found this post by Minor Miner claiming he gave a $300 loan to the ₿itcoin account.

There are several things that stand out.

First of all, the Minor Miner account changed hands at least once between February 2019 and August 2021. He returned after a two years and six months hiatus to post in signature campaigns and gambling and sports related threads (instead of the usual Speculation board).



I am not implying that posting about any specific country is wrong, not at all however the very first mention of "Pakistan" by the Minor Miner account is made in August 2021 after the account changed hands: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Minor%20Miner&content=Pakistan

That much is certain that the Minor Miner account is not being operated by the original creator.

Now moving on to the ₿itcoin account. The feedback speaks volumes:



This ₿itcoin account has also changed hands. The links in the feedback history provide a lot of information.

The third account that plays a part in this story is gordonics.com because this is another account that also seems to be behaving suspiciously.



The account was created on 1st February 2018 and made 10 posts ending 22nd March 2018. Then the gordonics.com account decided to return to the forum after a 7 year hiatus and started posting in the Italian local board and the majority of the posts in the Lending board:



QUESTION: Who in their right mind would even consider giving a loan to an account that has multiple negative tags and has been exposed as either a hacked or traded account?

ANSWER: Accounts that themselves have a dubious history.

I am unsure exactly where the gordonics.com account fits in to the whole drama but on the surface, it seems as though after some degree of persuasion the ₿itcoin account convinced the Minor Miner account to give a loan. Clearly that has happened in public therefore is the public record.

Having said, reading between the lines several other things could be happening regarding the Minor Miner and  ₿itcoin accounts including both accounts being operated by the same puppeteer. Neither account is an alt-account, they came in to possession of the current operators with the specific intention of joining campaigns.

Either they were sold or hacked. Now that both accounts are settled and are comfortable receiving their campaign earnings maybe they are becoming more audacious (regardless of whether they are operated by the same puppeteer or not).

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November 04, 2025, 05:32:58 PM
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I found this post by Minor Miner claiming he gave a loan to the ₿itcoin account.

There are several things that stand out.

First of all, the Minor Miner account changed hands at least once between February 2019 and August 2021. He returned after a hiatus to post in signature campaigns and gambling and sports related threads (instead of the usual Speculation board).



I am not implying that posting about any specific country is wrong, not at all however the very first mention of "Pakistan" by the Minor Miner account is made in August 2021 after the account changed hands: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Minor%20Miner&content=Pakistan

That much is certain that the Minor Miner account is not being operated by the original creator.

Dear JollyGood, thank you for bringing this to the front.
I was helpless to say anything about this cause; there was no specific space on the forum to talk about it, but now that you brought it up front, that's why I got a chance to defend it.

Don't you think your info is not enough to give me a tag?
At first, I was the sole owner of this account from first to last.

You are claiming my account changed hands just to feed your gut feelings. You people don't have a single evidence that could support your claim.
My account has never been inactive for too long that you could say it changed hands. Every month, I tried to log in at least once and kept myself up to date and secure.

Look, if my account got hacked in 2019 or changed hands, you must notice an email/pass change or reset log, which proves that my account is not compromised for a single second after I registered it.

This is the sign message from my 2017 staked address:
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I am Minor Miner
Todays date: 04/11/2025

I am the real owner of this name, and never compromised.
Bitcoin address: 16QszjwMCBH8Pu1ncg1acSmxPJSkEjhjgd
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I actually like criticism, and I am open to interacting with you positively. I also like who gave me the tag, cause I know they are fighting against scams, and sometimes they could be wrong, but overall they are a strong hand to keep everyone safe. I requested both of you to reconsider about your tag. You are respected DT member and know better than me how to respect that honor.

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November 04, 2025, 06:42:28 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2025, 02:47:42 AM by JollyGood
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Dear JollyGood, thank you for bringing this to the front.
I was helpless to say anything about this cause; there was no specific space on the forum to talk about it, but now that you brought it up front, that's why I got a chance to defend it.
You have created several threads in the past therefore if you wanted to comment on any matter that you selected, you knew exactly how to do it.

Don't you think your info is not enough to give me a tag?
I think the neutral will suffice for now.

At first, I was the sole owner of this account from first to last.
That is a complete lie. The style in posting and the threads chosen to post in clearly demonstrate what happened between February 2019 and August 2021 (the period the account was dormant).

You are claiming my account changed hands just to feed your gut feelings. You people don't have a single evidence that could support your claim.
My account has never been inactive for too long that you could say it changed hands. Every month, I tried to log in at least once and kept myself up to date and secure.

Look, if my account got hacked in 2019 or changed hands, you must notice an email/pass change or reset log, which proves that my account is not compromised for a single second after I registered it.
Read your trust ratings, I am not the only member that believes the account hands changed.

This is the sign message from my 2017 staked address:
Quote from: message
I am Minor Miner
Todays date: 04/11/2025

I am the real owner of this name, and never compromised.
Bitcoin address: 16QszjwMCBH8Pu1ncg1acSmxPJSkEjhjgd
Quote from: signature
H0WWpSeOFUfzjZjEBK4KbET2G899IHddHLU1/VL6EG7oViQnjAonFzpnRc06yEPvsUe7vclIDNX+YvFRN/tp2G0=
A few years ago a trend started that was amplified with the exposure of the borovichok account farmer. Sales that include password changes have little value therefore old addresses to sign messages and email addresses are part of the account sales process.

I actually like criticism, and I am open to interacting with you positively. I also like who gave me the tag, cause I know they are fighting against scams, and sometimes they could be wrong, but overall they are a strong hand to keep everyone safe. I requested both of you to reconsider about your tag. You are respected DT member and know better than me how to respect that honor.
Not all tags are correct, there are some tags that should never have been given. There are some tags that were neutral but should have been negative (and vice-versa), that is the way things are. Having said that, I would not have hesitated to leave a negative tag if it was warranted based on the evidence available.

Keeping that aside, I am not the only one that noticed you provided zero rationale for allegedly giving a $300 loan to an account that has multiple negative feedback and is itself an account that is either hacked or traded. Reinventing your account to make it appear as a reputable member by offering loans do not change the fundamental facts.

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November 05, 2025, 01:46:59 AM
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My account has never been inactive for too long that you could say it changed hands. Every month, I tried to log in at least once and kept myself up to date and secure.

There's a posting gap of over two and a half years from 2019 to 2021, the time in question.  It's also pretty apparent to anyone who speaks native English that the account's language skills changed during that gap.  Either you're lying or you forgot how to speak English like a native.

Regardless, the tags are neutral, not negative.  I doubt very much you'll convince either of the two members to remove them.  But, if you keep lying you might talk yourself into a red tag.

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November 05, 2025, 08:27:23 AM
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QUESTION: Who in their right mind would even consider giving a loan to an account that has multiple negative tags and has been exposed as either a hacked or traded account?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're all owned by the same person, to fake being trustworthy.

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November 05, 2025, 09:45:34 AM
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QUESTION: Who in their right mind would even consider giving a loan to an account that has multiple negative tags and has been exposed as either a hacked or traded account?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're all owned by the same person, to fake being trustworthy.


I have opened a lending service since I noticed one of our most loving lenders, @condoras passed away.
Since the demand for loans on the forum is high and the number of lenders is unusually low, I raised some funds to provide this service for the good of all.
So this service is not only for any specific person; my rules are crystal clear. "If you have the ability to repay your loan, then you could send your request. I will definitely consider your request. If you don't have the ability, my service is not for you."

You might have noticed that @Bitcoin first sent his loan request to @shasan, and he politely rejected him. Then he came to my thread. I also rejected his loan request and gave him a chance to prove his loan repayment ability, then he sent me the following message. I hide those casino names cause he is my customer and I should not reveal his personal info to others. Then I asked him to provide data by which I could verify his words are true, and then he shared his payment history, which he received from those casinos for which he worked. I manually verified those data by forum representative and got to know he is telling the truth and he could repay the loan.
Although he politely convinced me that he was capable of repaying the loan, I still didn't have the courage to lend him such an amount, so I refused his request and told him that, since he was my first client, I could only give him a maximum of 300 USD.

Hey Minor Miner, hope you are doing awesome!

I am looking for a tiny BTC loan (~$500 worth) for just about 2 weeks. I have got a solid deal lined up on the side with [Some_Casino_Name.com] for the long term, so repayment will be smooth sailing. Also I am working on and offline so repayment will be no problem!

Also you could check my wallet addy that one I provided on your loan thread, it is wealthy enough to ensure my sustainability,  promise it will be back in your hands in no time, and I will owe you one big time! Smiley

Best,
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So, this is his and my history; we have no other kind of relationship than this, and never have before. If any other member came to take my lending service, the same relationship would be established with him, nothing more.

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November 05, 2025, 10:09:27 AM
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Since the demand for loans on the forum is high and the number of lenders is unusually low, I raised some funds to provide this service for the good of all.
Many members use a loan as an exit strategy, and don't intend to pay it back. It wouldn't surprise me if the average lender on this forum runs at a loss.

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This should have been your first red flag: someone who doesn't even have $500 calls it "tiny".

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I wouldn't be surprised if they're all owned by the same person, to fake being trustworthy.
It is definitely a possibility that they are part of the same farm.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're all owned by the same person, to fake being trustworthy.
I have opened a lending service since I noticed one of our most loving lenders, @condoras passed away.
Since the demand for loans on the forum is high and the number of lenders is unusually low, I raised some funds to provide this service for the good of all.
Of all the ways a member could contribute to the forum, you decided to raise funds to reinvent yourself as a loan provider because you noticed one of our most loving lenders passed away.

You have gone down even further in the gutter with the comment you just made. For me, it is a red line when people (such as you) that are without morals use the name of deceased members in an attempt to either save their accounts from getting tagged or try to receive merits.

It would be impossible for you to make that statement without interacting with him. How close were you to the one you refer to as one of our most loving lenders?

How many posts did you make in the Lending board before your reinvention from a hacked/traded account to Lender? And why offer to provide that loans service rather than contribute in another way?

You might have noticed that @Bitcoin first sent his loan request to @shasan, and he politely rejected him. Then he came to my thread. I also rejected his loan request and gave him a chance to prove his loan repayment ability, then he sent me the following message. I hide those casino names cause he is my customer and I should not reveal his personal info to others. Then I asked him to provide data by which I could verify his words are true, and then he shared his payment history, which he received from those casinos for which he worked. I manually verified those data by forum representative and got to know he is telling the truth and he could repay the loan.
Although he politely convinced me that he was capable of repaying the loan, I still didn't have the courage to lend him such an amount, so I refused his request and told him that, since he was my first client, I could only give him a maximum of 300 USD.
All drama and theatrics in an attempt to misdirect from the truth.

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