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November 08, 2025, 01:53:40 PM
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Entering 2025, the government will begin to be firm in taking policies towards people involved in gambling. The government has verified the identities of recipients of direct cash assistance, they have cut off more than 200 thousand who received assistance.
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The government has stopped social assistance (cash assistance) for recipients who are indicated or proven to be involved in online gambling. This step was taken because social assistance is intended for people who need it and should not be used for detrimental activities, such as gambling. Until August 2025, more than 200 thousand social assistance recipients have been stopped and the transferred funds will be given to more deserving recipients.

This policy actually has an impact on poor people, because on average 90% of those involved in online gambling are poor people, this is a special concern for underprivileged people, this situation has an impact on online fiat gamblers.
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1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!
2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!

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November 08, 2025, 02:03:57 PM
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Which country is implementing this?
I can understand the reasoning behind the policy. Gambling should be an activity done at leisure with spare money the user will not heavily mind losing. If you need social assistance, you do not fall under the category of those that can gamble recreationally. Cutting off the support could be considered extreme but could also help them to get over their gambling addiction so they can qualify for future cash assistance.

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November 08, 2025, 02:18:12 PM
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Entering 2025, the government will begin to be firm in taking policies towards people involved in gambling. The government has verified the identities of recipients of direct cash assistance, they have cut off more than 200 thousand who received assistance.
Did you mean 2026? I think you mean 2026.

1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!
Yes, definitely they will be affected if they are known to the government but I guess some people will be able to hide and have some ways they will not be detected.

2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!
What the government of my country care about are taxes, they are not giving us any money.

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November 08, 2025, 02:25:40 PM
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This policy actually has an impact on poor people, because on average 90% of those involved in online gambling are poor people, this is a special concern for underprivileged people, this situation has an impact on online fiat gamblers.
What are the concerns of low-income gamblers? Smiley Are they upset that they won't be able to gamble with the money we (notionally) earned (some of it in the form of taxes), and the government gave to the underprivileged people, in the form of benefits so they could earn a living?

I am extremely negative about the idea of ​​the poor gambling with "our taxes" and consider the government's initiative (in this case) justified.

If the poor want to gamble, then let them do so with the money they earned, not with "humanitarian aid".

Question....!
1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!
Only if government officials learn about it. Again, this would require specific laws, and if they don't exist, the government won't be able to influence them (until a new law is passed).

2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!
This is the first time I've heard of such a law. Nothing like this has ever happened in my country (at least, not that I know of).

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November 08, 2025, 02:47:17 PM
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Cash assistance means some kind of government aid for the unemployed or homeless people, and when they use it for activities like gambling?

Then, yes it is justified, tax money should not go in for someone's entertainment, it should be used effectively for survival and mandatory needs like healthcare, better education and other stuffs and if people wants to gamble then they should earn their own money and gamble with it.

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November 08, 2025, 02:48:21 PM
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Which country is implementing this?
I can understand the reasoning behind the policy. Gambling should be an activity done at leisure with spare money the user will not heavily mind losing. If you need social assistance, you do not fall under the category of those that can gamble recreationally. Cutting off the support could be considered extreme but could also help them to get over their gambling addiction so they can qualify for future cash assistance.

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I'm also curious about the country he's talking about.

And I understand the reasoning behind the policy too, while I don't in general agree with the statement "90% of those involved in online gambling are poor people". I hope the OP explains the situation in the country he talks about, because it's hard to believe that 90% of gamblers are people on subsidy.


Entering 2025, the government will begin to be firm in taking policies towards people involved in gambling. The government has verified the identities of recipients of direct cash assistance, they have cut off more than 200 thousand who received assistance.
Did you mean 2026? I think you mean 2026.

I'm not sure because if they "have cut off" more than 200 thousand until August, it means that it has already happened. Please OP, clarify this issue for us too.

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November 08, 2025, 02:51:54 PM
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What I'm curious about is how the government would know the gambling activity, moreover, cryptocurrency-based gambling, which is very hard to trace. Like, how would someone be able to do that unless they are in conversation with the platform you are gambling it?

I think the gambling addiction is really rising that's why there are policies being put out there.

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November 08, 2025, 02:53:39 PM
Last edit: November 08, 2025, 03:05:31 PM by YOSHIE
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Which country is implementing this?
The country led by President Prabowo Subianto.

Did you mean 2026? I think you mean 2026.
No, the law has passed in 2025 now, as in the quote 200 recipients were detected gambling online, they no longer receive cash assistance.

I think not, all validation assistance via real identity, such as KTP/SIM and Health Card, 0% can be hidden.

Taxes, that's the problem with online gambling roaming freely, taxes are paid, strangely for aid recipients who are proven to be gambling, they no longer receive aid.

If the poor want to gamble, then let them do so with the money they earned, not with "humanitarian aid".
Well, that's the problem, the aid funds are used for online gambling, just imagine 200 thousand, not a small number.

Yes, that's what's happening right now.



I'm not sure because if they "have cut off" more than 200 thousand until August, it means that it has already happened. Please OP, clarify this issue for us too.
As far as I know, help has been distributed, the problem is that those who were detected gambling online no longer receive it, now it is the hottest news in Indonesia.

What I'm curious about is how the government would know the gambling activity,
They gamble at online/fiat casinos, most likely crypto casinos exist too.

Because of today's crypto casinos, KYC is through real identity, such as KTP/passport/driver's license so that's the problem.
It's all detected digitally by the government, because all identities are electric/chip, it's easy to detect, whether they're gambling or not.
And another way the government does it is through bank accounts, it applies to fiat casino players.

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November 08, 2025, 02:53:54 PM
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Question....!
1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!

No, since online casino especially crypto casino is not regulated by government except the country which their license came from.

2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!

We have a lot of this cash assistance to the poo that it became redundant already since the politicians here especially congressman use it as way to buy votes and other form of corruption. But removing to the program just because of gambling is very rare case and I never saw someone experience this. Online gambling is very popular among the recipients of cash assistance here but so far no case of removal of benefits.

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Whether the cash assistance recipients are using online crypto casino or not, they will be impacted by this kind of law because when the assistance money is given to them, it is expected of them to spend it on what ever need that made them receive the money and I believe that the government would assign a special agents that will be in charge of investigating, supervising and observing whether the recipient are using the money for something else. Such money comes with accountability by the receiver, so if they spend on online crypto gambling and gets detected, they risk being cut off from the assistance.

That kind of social assistance is not a popular thing in my country, there are government grants and loans given to young and old entrepreneurs here but not this kind of social assistance you mean.

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Cash assistance means some kind of government aid for the unemployed or homeless people, and when they use it for activities like gambling?

Then, yes it is justified, tax money should not go in for someone's entertainment, it should be used effectively for survival and mandatory needs like healthcare, better education and other stuffs and if people wants to gamble then they should earn their own money and gamble with it.
The impact of such a policy government may pose a severity which may be responsible for the termination of any benefits a gambler would normally enjoy from using the cash assistance to fund their gambling lifestyle.
Also, such policies are geared towards making the use of cash assistance for both online gambling and other speculative activities to come to a stop.

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November 08, 2025, 03:08:57 PM
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Cash assistance means some kind of government aid for the unemployed or homeless people, and when they use it for activities like gambling?

Then, yes it is justified, tax money should not go in for someone's entertainment, it should be used effectively for survival and mandatory needs like healthcare, better education and other stuffs and if people wants to gamble then they should earn their own money and gamble with it.
The impact of such a policy government may pose a severity which may be responsible for the termination of any benefits a gambler would normally enjoy from using the cash assistance to fund their gambling lifestyle.
Also, such policies are geared towards making the use of cash assistance for both online gambling and other speculative activities to come to a stop.


It may look harsh, but that's fai,r right?

If someone is in a position to enjoy life on luxury entertainment like gambling then they should be doing it with their hard earned money which no one can question but why should I pay my tax for someone who doesn't want to go to a job and get the cash relief and gamble with it.

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This is for a country that have social assistance programs for their citizens, not like in my country where there is none of that and whatever the citizens gamble with is their direct resources or money gotten from they personal income.

But if the country that offer it citizens social security, then their have the right to stop payment to people who are abusing the system and gambling with it instead of what it is intended.

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November 08, 2025, 03:18:43 PM
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This is for a country that have social assistance programs for their citizens, not like in my country where there is none of that and whatever the citizens gamble with is their direct resources or money gotten from they personal income.

But if the country that offer it citizens social security, then their have the right to stop payment to people who are abusing the system and gambling with it instead of what it is intended.
you're right, the citizens only obey rules and regulations of their government when they trust the government and the government are making life easier for them, but in a situation where the government are making life worse for the citizens then they have no right to make any policy to stop gambling in such nation. Because the citizens will gambling to escape poverty.

Government should be able to provide social Amenities and welfare for the citizens, in a country where there's social welfare from the government to the citizens, the rate of gambling in such countries will reduce unlike my country where the government impoverished the citizens to stay in power.

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November 08, 2025, 03:25:14 PM
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This is for a country that have social assistance programs for their citizens, not like in my country where there is none of that and whatever the citizens gamble with is their direct resources or money gotten from they personal income.

But if the country that offer it citizens social security, then their have the right to stop payment to people who are abusing the system and gambling with it instead of what it is intended.
you're right, the citizens only obey rules and regulations of their government when they trust the government and the government are making life easier for them, but in a situation where the government are making life worse for the citizens then they have no right to make any policy to stop gambling in such nation. Because the citizens will gambling to escape poverty.

Government should be able to provide social Amenities and welfare for the citizens, in a country where there's social welfare from the government to the citizens, the rate of gambling in such countries will reduce unlike my country where the government impoverished the citizens to stay in power.

People should abide it if it’s the law of your country. That’s why you should elect your leader wisely so that you will experience a shit lot that is not in favor with the citizens.

In case that your leaders do a lot of unfavorable laws that affect the life of the citizens, you can always make a movement against this leadership to oust them on the position.




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November 08, 2025, 03:37:59 PM
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Banning them from cash assistance for throwing the Money away is not the problem.  Although I would kind of argue it is because if this is a problem then why do they not give coupons for essentials only.  But this is how the Know Your Customer system works exactly against the people it is supposed to protect.  You comply showing that you have 'no thing to hide' and then all of a sudden they have a problem with you while every body else who did not comply lives at peace.

I have another question.  How about they start a data base of people who purchase alcohol and ban cash assistance for them too.  How about we actually start registering the identity of soda purchases as well, because that is not a purchase of things they NEED.

When the State is TOO involved in personal matters, it becomes a real problem.
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November 08, 2025, 03:43:55 PM
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This policy actually has an impact on poor people, because on average 90% of those involved in online gambling are poor people, this is a special concern for underprivileged people, this situation has an impact on online fiat gamblers.
What are the concerns of low-income gamblers? Smiley Are they upset that they won't be able to gamble with the money we (notionally) earned (some of it in the form of taxes), and the government gave to the underprivileged people, in the form of benefits so they could earn a living?

I am extremely negative about the idea of ​​the poor gambling with "our taxes" and consider the government's initiative (in this case) justified.

If the poor want to gamble, then let them do so with the money they earned, not with "humanitarian aid".

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1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!
Only if government officials learn about it. Again, this would require specific laws, and if they don't exist, the government won't be able to influence them (until a new law is passed).

2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!
This is the first time I've heard of such a law. Nothing like this has ever happened in my country (at least, not that I know of).
Pretty sure whatever government is implementing this policy has concerns due to the fact that the government is giving this person money to survive on, but they have enough money to gamble? Why support that when there are other people in need who don't prioritize entertainment over basic needs.


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November 08, 2025, 03:56:44 PM
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1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!

The number of recipients of government assistance must be very large. I am sure that what is being examined is the direct flow from the recipient's bank account to a casino account. If a gambler makes a direct deposit from their bank account, it will certainly have an impact. But if it is done from a crypto account, the government may not track it. However, in the future, it is possible that the government will create regulations for local exchanges to prohibit direct deposits and withdrawals to crypto accounts.

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November 08, 2025, 03:58:37 PM
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1. If cash assistance recipients gambled at online crypto casinos, would they be impacted by this policy...!
2. Does your country have such a policy for recipients of cash assistance....!

Brother, you should include the country in your thread, which, if I am not mistaken, is Indonesia. For the poor people, cash assistance is essential; the reason they take a chance in gambling is that the cash assistance is not enough, since they got it free, they might as well take a chance in the hope of doubling it, since they did not work for it, which is wrong, but they still do it.

Our country also had a cash assistance program, and they are aware that these poor people are using it to gamble, so they maintain close monitoring and impose penalties on those caught.



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November 08, 2025, 05:17:00 PM
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Our country also had a cash assistance program, and they are aware that these poor people are using it to gamble, so they maintain close monitoring and impose penalties on those caught.
Of course the issue of aid and online gambling has become a special concern for the Indonesian government, as has happened in one province stating: Jakarta's Online Gambling Emergency: Social Assistance Funds Become Capital for Playing Slots
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As many as 15,033 social assistance recipients in Jakarta are recorded as actively playing online gambling. The transaction value is staggering, reaching $4.013.967. Jakarta is in an online gambling emergency, with social assistance funds being used as capital for slot games.

This is no joke, it is so widespread that aid funds from the government have become the main capital for gambling.
This experience is a lesson and a strong warning for poor people, don't try to use aid funds for gambling, NIK ID cards and bank accounts cannot be manipulated, the saying goes "a drop of poison spilled into a pot breaks the pot of broth."

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